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I'm not in any way speculating. But I'm actually shocked how few people know that Charlie Kirk has for years been among the most reviled people on the planet by white supremacists, many of whom were radicalized by sustained campaigns painting him as an anti-white fraud.
Again: I'm not speculating about the shooter. I just have been stunned how quickly people have jumped with certainty to partisan conclusions. Because in extremism spaces, the Charlie Kirk Hater to Nazi pipeline is canon. It's how we got a generation of antisemitic extremists.
Nick Fuentes literally built his movement attacking Kirk from the right. They turned him into a caricature of all that they detested: Faux-populism, Zionism + anti-white policy, astroturfed by billionaires and establishment elites who would sell out their race for political power
And Kirk hatred was also crucial to their growth: At TPUSA events theyd grill him on Israel, immigration etc, never going mask-off but subtly injecting their invective into more mainstream GOP conversations. And this would inevitably peel off a few sympathizers in attendance.
The "Groyper War," as they call it, is literally how Nick Fuentes became Nick Fuentes. It's how a generation of angry young men took their first step into the fascist rabbithole. For many, it was as simple as starting to question why Charlie Kirk wouldn't say XYZ about ABC.
Again: I'm not speculating on the shooter. We'll know soon enough. I just think this is crucial history; if it doesnt help us understand the events of today, it certainly will help us understand things 2 and 5 and 10 years from now.
One clarification: In my first tweet, I meant to say HAD not HAS been reviled for years. Over the last few years, Kirk steadily moved further and further right, and was openly talking about Great Replacement Theory, Christian nationalism and other once-fringier things.
People have been shocked to learn that Nick Fuentes types think Charlie Kirk is a squishy moderate. So they probably don’t know that there is a whole far-far-right cohort that thinks the exact same thing of Nick Fuentes.
Honestly, Fuentes-style antisemitism is honestly not even THAT extreme compared to those further down the pipeline. Keep going further right and you eventually get to accelerationists, whose primary goal is stoking chaos until society collapse allows the Race War.
And the accelerationists absolutely LOVE what’s happened this week, as the immediate jump to partisanship deepens our divide, raises the temperature and further normalizes the possibility of sectarian violence.
And I really cannot emphasize this enough: The Fuentes/Kirk war that pushed some of these folks toward extremism was ~7 years ago. Seven years in the fascist pipeline is an INCREDIBLY long time.
And each time something like this happens - when we jump to conclusions that justify retribution — we are giving a massive gift to people who want nothing more than to inflict unspeakable violence that will touch every single one of us, democrat or republican.
Devin is correct here, and I coulda been more clear that I meant Fuentes actual, on the ground tactics — ie, that he’s not forming assassination cells or attacking power grids, even if his rhetoric is a conduit to groups that are.

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Sep 12
Setting aside that we still dont know almost anything about Charlie Kirk’s murderer: There is an overwhelming body of evidence showing the far right accounts for a disproportionate —and particularly fatal— share of political violence, even as left-wing violence has risen lately.
Don't believe me? Here's what the Cato Institute, by no means an ally of the left, published today. It's not even close.
cato.org/blog/political…Image
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Mar 19
Happening now in Texas: Cindy Clemishire, whose disclosures led to the indictment of megachurch pastor Robert Morris, is testifying in favor of a bill that'd ban NDAs in settlements for sexual abuse lawsuits. #txlege
Rep. Jeff Leach: "You either stand with victims or you stand with the people who harmed them. There is no middle ground." #txlege
Rep. Mitch Little also sitting in on this committee, decrying the "soul murder" of clergy abuse. Little represented the family who sued The Village, a Dallas-area megachurch, after their daughter was abused by a church leader.
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Mar 8
I’ve spent nearly a decade covering evangelicals and then far-right extremism. The overlap was always there but has drastically accelerated as of late — due in part to the view, prominent in Eva circles, that online is not real life or that the fringe will stay fringe.
I say this because I think that there is the potential for Evangelicals to see this steadily rising Nazi movement in their ranks and shirk it off as fringe. It is. But so was QAnon, election denialism, COVID conspiracies, etc
I’m not smart and don’t have an answer. But I can say with certainty: treating this as something that’ll dissipate with time will prove a fatal miscalculation. Platforms are already built and getting bigger. So are followings and comfort with saying quiet parts out loud.
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Nov 17, 2024
Megan Basham is scheduled to speak in January to True Texas Project, the far-right group whose leaders sympathized with the El Paso WalMart gunman and just held a Christian nationalism conference that claimed Dems want to "rid the earth of the white race."
True Texas Project's recent conference included panels that defended Great Replacement Theory, claimed "forced multiculturalism" is a conspiracy to destroy white people, and encouraged attendees to embrace being called white nationalists or supremacists.
texastribune.org/2024/06/12/tru…
Speakers included a longtime collaborator of prominent eugenicists/white nationalists such as Richard Spencer. The event was so extreme that two of the farthest right figures in Texas - Louie Gohmert and Don Huffines - both pulled out as speakers.
texastribune.org/2024/06/13/tru…
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Oct 23, 2024
🧵🧵In 2022, Elvie Kingston’s dementia took a turn for the worse. A doctor said the oil-rich conservative activist couldn’t manage a bank account or dress alone - but could sign legal docs removing her family's control of her health/finances.

Enter a Texas Supreme Court justice:
Since 2022, Texas Supreme Court Justice John Devine has overseen Kingston's trust. He claims they are basically family. Legal experts say he is clearly violating ethics rules that explicitly bar judges from such positions to avoid conflicts of interest + appearance of impropriety Image
Devine's wife, Nubia, is also Kingston's guardian - giving the couple wide control over her health, finances and life. The arrangement has been adamantly opposed by Kingston's family + some friends, who say she was once close to the Devines but had a massive falling out.
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Oct 22, 2024
NEW: For two years, Texas Supreme Court Justice John Devine has controlled the trust of a woman with dementia — a violation of Texas' judicial ethics code, experts say. The woman's niece + three friends also allege that she wanted nothing to do with him.
texastribune.org/2024/10/22/tex…
The concerns are the latest raised about Devine's ethics as a judge. In February, we reported that he did not recuse himself from a high-profile sex abuse lawsuit against Southern Baptist leader Paul Pressler despite their close ties.
In February, we obtained leaked audio in which Devine accused his colleagues on the all-GOP Supreme Court of being "brainwashed" by "Big Law," saying he worried they'd "sacrifice the Republic for the sake of the (legal) process." #txlege
texastribune.org/2024/02/27/joh…
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