This is why it's so important to know your translations, have experience translating, and to grasp not only the blip on the radar that is being argued, but also much longer historical contexts granularly to put things into perspective for those less learned. Well done, Cambridge!
Some details may be off, but this is what being outclassed in a debate looks like.
The way to respond would've been to acknowlege one does not have relevant expertise to parse linguistic nuances in translation. Losing ground on logic, then appealing to authority is a big no no.
There are moments in the second half where, clearly stretched well past limits of knowledge or context, there is panic followed by random fact diarrhea with no continuity in argument and a bit of a slip in manners. That's where formal experience in debate may have been helpful.
It's actually a shame that he panicked and kept talking over the debate partner instead of engaging with an open mind, because the Cambridge dude knew some stuff he didn't, and this could have been allowed to blossom into a much more educational exchange. No biggie, but still.
It's brave and impressive of Kirk to have gone up against a Cambridge classicist. Romantic, honestly. Like David against Goliath. But if you faithfully trace back Christian history, you end up far more multicultural. The number of translations alone will humble any honest person.
Biblical history/exegesis is simply not an arena that has room for plucky modern monolinguals. It isn't American Sunday school. It's a deeply demanding field requiring years of focused study and familiarity with many dead languages that you usually tackle in university/seminary.
Given the passion, if he actually opened his mind, Kirk would have probably matured a lot in his faith in seminary or theological school, but it would have taken years, and much more intellectual humility. This wasn't even a real/fair debate. He was just effortlessly outclassed.
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Minting a martyr is stupid bc it creates more homework for others in the containment of what ensues.
We need lists introducing differences btwn translations of the bible into english asap. There'll be an influx of the bibliocurious vulnerable to exploitation.
What a huge mess.
If more youth will now explore christianity, we need guidance directing them to the most scholarly modern translations by faculty of top theological seminaries.
You want them on a scholarly path, not falling into the clutches of charismatic pentecostal megachurches, nar, or wcn.
If you thought misinterpretations of bibles were bad back when people read books critically all their lives, now you will see what happens when young people with no reading comprehension skills to speak of wrestle with milllennia-old blueprints translated imperfectly. Good job.
more high schools need western canon reading programs so a) a culture of reading is in place by the time college happens, and b) kids can broaden their horizons to other cultures during college instead of playing catch up encountering full length primary texts for the first time.
variations are possible, but the cultural emphasis must shift from whether schools technically graduate kids who can't read 🙄to whether kids know how to read, write about, and discuss their literal, civilizational, cultural inheritances well enough to enjoy it and continue.
encounter of religious holy texts during k-12 is important not to indoctrinate kids, but to show them a) wth all the western canon is even referring to and 2) what they'll have to navigate the intricacies of during political negotiations over civil and human rights in adulthood.
policies make no sense when exceptionalism drives both fp and domestic but they don't match
you can't be pro life and also pro war. you can't be pro hold japan accountable but NOT korean men for rape/molka/martial law
if after defending it w/ your life, you hurt what you saved,
you've saved nothing. you've groomed it.
if you want to leverage human rights rhetoric to control women domestically, erasing their rights, but give yourself hypocritical leeway internationally, where's the integrity?
the misbehavior of others doesn't justify violent bigotry.
the temptation's strong to fold to stories of what worked, and how much love and friendship existed within chosen structures, but when you steamroll other humans whose lives are crushed by optional logics that leave no room for them to breathe you're no better than the opposition
It need not be connected to a religion at all. In fact, that might help. Either way, it's a powerful, meditative process through which you work through problems, building musculature for introspection.
That musculature is ideology agnostic.
So people who have no daily practice building their muscles for active reflection during which they piece together thoughts, feelings, values, experiences, and observed reality to locate clean throughlines of coherence will always be weaker than those who do work out every day.
Prayer is essentially cross-fit for mental, physical, spiritual, and political integration, God or none.
To look down on it when you've no experience with it is to mark yourself a fool with an arrogant mind closed to potentially beneficial experiences or practices sight unseen.
a rite of passage for adulthood is to look up for ALL developed nations the history of eugenics/forced sterilization.
i'd always thought eugenics was mostly about encouraging select people to have 👶🐣, but apparently it also included state-sponsored sterilizations.🫠🤦♀️so bad.
the creativity recorded in the history of evil is really beyond your wildest imaginations
this rabbit hole was brought to you by googling why people were made about the sydney sweeney jeans ad and then clicking on some links.
No one writes the way the New York Times has done for years on end now about violent crime and education unless he 1) assumes everyone is stupider 2) he can manipulate them.
Given even just the bare bones facts of the case, it is not possible to write the lede the way they did.
I didn't bother including the actual first graph because it was pure stalling and filler. Americans deserve much, much higher standards of neutrality and integrity for journalism in this country.