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🧵Because of the EO and Title IX (federal law), there shouldn't be or ever have been a single male athlete participating in girls' scholastic sports in the United States, but we all know that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Here's a recap of the boys who participated during the 2024-2025 season by sport as we move into the 2025-2026 season.

I've done this thread before, but there are quite a few notable names to add.

Note: athletes may appear twice due to participating in multiple sportsImage
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Volleyball:

Male athlete Henry Hanlon leads the San Francisco Waldorf team to a Bay Counties Conference championship, a CIF Div 6 North Coast Section Championship (a repeat of his 2022 title), and a second-place finish in the regional championship.

Hanlon also caused the Stone Ridge Christian team to forfeit a playoff game, ending their season.

A female player on his own team is benched all year due to Hanlon's participation.Image
Male athlete Aaron "Valerie" Silverman sparks controversy at Clarkstown North High School in New York when he stole a spot on varsity from a female player.

Female players are allegedly threatened with expulsion from the team if they speak out.

Silverman is given an All-League award. A female athlete is benched due to Silverman's participation.Image
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Male athlete Aaron Lester helps Half Moon Bay High School to a 1st place finish in the Penninsula Ocean League.

Lester has reportedly given a female opponent a concussion during a match, prematurely ending her senior season.

A female athlete is benched due to Lester's participation.Image
Male athlete Ashtyn "Ashlyn" Ortega-Crowley takes a spot on the varsity team at Reed High School in Nevada.

A female player is benched due to Ortega-Crowley's participation. Image
Male athlete Luke "LC" Cicchinelli takes a spot on the varsity team at Cincinnati Country Day High School in Ohio.

A female player is benched due to Cicchinelli's participation.

Cicchinelli's father sells sex toys for women.

Cicchinelli is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner."Image
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Male athlete AB Hernandez leads the Jurupa Valley High School team to a River Valley Conference championship with an undefeated conference record.

Hernandez leads the team in kills per set, hitting percentage, blocks, and total kills, almost doubling the kill count of the next highest player.

A female athlete is benched due to Hernandez's participation.Image
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Male athlete Brody "Brodie" Gerlach leads the Sturgis West High School team to a Cape & Islands Conference Championship.

Gerlach leads the team in kills per set, hitting percentage, total blocks, digs per set, serving aces, aces per set, total digs, and total kills, with 341 compared to the next highest athlete with 74.

Gerlach leads the entire state of Massachusetts in hitting percentage. Gerlach is named the Cape & Islands Conference MVP and to the MAVCA All-State team.

Gerlach's mother is an assistant (formerly) head coach on the volleyball team.

A female athlete is benched due to Gerlach's participation.Image
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Caleb "Skyler" Genewick helps his Skyline HS "girls'" team to a 2nd place finish at the regional championship in Michigan.

Genewick is described as a "powerhouse" for the team and a "key figure" on defense.

Genewick steals a spot on varsity from a female player. Image
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Cross Country:

Male athlete John "Abigail" Jones causes controversy after transferring to Martin Luther King High School and booting a girl off the varsity team to take her place. Jones immediately places 1st at the Lion's Den Classic.

Jones previously had the fastest "girls'" time at Arlington High School where he placed 1st in the D2 Soph Yellow category at the 75th Annual Mt. SAC Cross Country Invite in 2023, 1st out of 101 runners at the 2023 Ram Duals, 1st out of 140 in the sophomore division of the 2023 ASCIS Cool Breeze Evening Invitational, and 2nd at the River Valley League Finals.

A female athlete loses her varsity spot due to Jones' participation.Image
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Male athlete Soren Stark-Chessa participates on the Maine Coast Waldorf team, placing 1st at the Western Maine Conference Invitational out of 118 runners, 1st at the Southern Maine Class C Regional XC Championship, and 3rd at the state championship meet.

A female athlete loses her varsity spot and female athletes lose opportunities to run at the state and New England championships due to Stark-Chessa's participation.Image
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Male athlete Sean "Luce" Allen participates on the Plymouth-Whitemarsh varsity team.

A female athlete loses her varsity spot due to Allen's participation. Image
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Male athlete Logan "Veronica" Garcia runs on the East Valley High School team.

He places top three in 4 of his 5 races, placing 11th in a field of 106 at the 7th Annual Battle for the 509.

A female athlete loses her varsity spot due to Garcia's participation. Image
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Male athlete Aspen Hoffman runs on the Seattle Academy team. He qualifies for the 2024 WIAA State XC Championships.

Hoffman set the school record in the 5k in 2022. (has since been broken)

A female athlete loses her varsity spot and the opportunity to run at state due to Hoffman's participation.Image
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Male athlete Antonio "Alice" Birrueta Martinez participates on the "girls'" varsity XC team at Santa Maria HS in California.

He steals a varsity spot from a female athlete, depriving her of the opportunity to compete at the sectional championship.

Birrueta has also participated previously on the "girls'" wrestling team.Image
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Soccer:

Male athlete Parker Tirrell plays for the Plymouth Regional High School varsity team.

Tirrell has played varsity since freshman year. A female athlete is benched due to Tirrell's participation.

Tirrell's mother previously served as treasurer on his club team and harassed the state representatives with daily letters to get try to get her son onto the "girls'" team.Image
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Male athlete Mael "Maelle" Jacques plays as goalkeeper for the Kearsarge High School varsity team.

Jacques has previously participated in track and field where he won a state championship title in the high jump as a sophomore.

A female athlete is benched due to Jacques' participation.

It has also been revealed that Jacques' father was previously arrested for child pornography.Image
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Male athlete Owen "Wren" Parker plays as goalkeeper for the Hartford High School varsity team. He takes an SVL Div B All-League Honorable Mention in what appears to be his first year playing.

A female athlete is benched due to Parker's participation.

Parker's participation on the "girls'" snowboard team at Hartford was the reason behind the firing of the snowboard coach at an opposing school, David Bloch. Parker's father was a snowboard coach at Hartford.Image
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Lacrosse:

Male athlete Carlos "Carolyn" Maldonado led the Woodside HS "girls'" lacrosse team to a WBAL Skyline Conference championship title.

Maldonado stole a 1st team all-league award despite it being only his second year ever playing (he stole the same award his first year as well) and is described as a "game-changer" by the coach.

Maldonado was also playing boys' club volleyball while participating in girls' sports at the same time.

He steals a varsity spot from a female athlete.Image
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Field Hockey:

Ben "Rebekah" Bruesehoff is believed to have participated on his high school's field hockey team.

The Bruesehoff family seems to have hidden all information on his school location, and there is no public information available other than photos of him in field hockey gear and articles describing that he plays.

A female athlete is benched due to Bruesehoff's participation.

Bruesehoff is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner."Image
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A large number of male athletes participate on girls' field hockey teams in Massachusetts due to state law allowing this if there is no boys' team at the school.

HeCheated has only listed a few athletes here. They are not "trans" identified.

Male athlete Ryan Crook leads the Somerset Berkley Regional High School field hockey team to a South Coast Conference championship and the MIAA Div II State Championship title as a sophomore.

Crook was named MVP of South Coast Conference. He was a South Coast Conference All-Star as a freshman the previous year.

Somerset Berkley previously won the state championship title in 2018 and 2019 when Ryan's older brother Luke was on the team.

Their mother, Jen Crook, is the head coach and has also won a Coach of the Year Award while using her son to win the state title.

A female athlete is benched due to Crook's participation.Image
Anthony Ford (also just a sophomore) takes an MVC First Team All-Conference award while playing for Lowell High School.

A female athlete is benched due to Ford's participation. Image
Nick Odabashian takes a Valley Conference All-League while playing for Westfield High School.

A female athlete is benched due to Odabashian's participation. Image
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Swimming:

Male athlete Noam "Nora" Vardeny swims on the varsity team at Cottonwood Senior High School in Utah.

Vardeny qualifies for but does not participate in the state championship meet in the 50 yard freestyle after finishing 2nd at the Region X Championships.

Last year as a freshman, Vardeny placed 2nd at the Utah 4A State Championships in the 200 yard medley relay.

Vardeny also participates in figure skating and recently placed 1st at the 2025 Intermountain Classic Figure Skating Championships in the free skate program.

Vardeny is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner."Image
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Basketball:

Male athlete Henry Hanlon leads the San Francisco Waldorf varsity team to a 3rd place finish in the Bay Counties Conference Standings.

Hanlon helped the team to the 2024 North Coast Section Championship title the previous year, scoring a majority of the team's points. In a January game, he was 5 points shy of outscoring the entire opposing team.

Hanlon does not play in the playoffs.

A female athlete was benched due to Hanlon's participation.Image
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Male athlete Eddie "Addie" Ruter helps the Foxboro High School team to a Hockomock Conference Championship.

Ruter is 6'3" and described by the coach as the team's "secret weapon" and a player of the like she has never seen before in all of her years as a coach.

Ruter has previously helped the team to two consecutive state championships. Ruter sits out the state tournament this year after president Trump's EO, citing a knee injury.

Foxboro does not win the state tournament this year. A female athlete was benched due to Ruter's participation.

Ruter is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner."

Ruter's father was a member of the School Commitee while Ruter was a student.Image
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Gymnastics:

Due to Massachusetts law, male gymnasts are allowed on girls' teams if there is no boys' gymnastics team at the school. The boys listed here do not identify as "trans."

Male athlete Divier Ramos at Methuen High School places 1st in the vault, 1st in the floor exercise, and 8thin the uneven bars at the MIAA Individual State Championships.

Ramos was named the Merrimack Valley Conference Senior Gymnast of the Year. He currently holds the school record in the vault.

Male athlete Andrew Znoj for Mansfield High School places 2nd in the vault and 2nd in the floor at the MIAA Individual State Championships.

Male athlete Todd Herland for Methuen High School places 3rd in the vault at the MIAA Individual State Championships.

Male athlete Lorenzo Leary for Lowell High School places 9th in the vault at the MIAA Individual State Championships.

No female athletes take a top 3 medal in the vault at the MIAA Individual State Championships. Boys have won the state championship title in the "women's" vault in 5 of the last 7 years.Image
Skiing:

Male athlete Soren Stark-Chessa places 3rd at the 2025 MPA Class C State Nordic Championships in both freestyle and pursuit disciplines. Image
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Track and Field:

Male athlete John Rydzewski, now "Katie Spencer," at Greely HS, ME switches to the "girls'" team at Greely High School, ME, goes undefeated in the indoor pole vault, and places 1st at the 2025 Maine Class B Indoor State Championships.

Spencer also places 1st at the outdoor WMC championships in the pole vault and qualifies for the state meet, but does not participate.

Spencer has the school record per athletic.net.Image
Male athlete Soren Stark-Chessa at North Yarmouth Academy, ME places 1st in both the 1600 and 800 meters at the WMC outdoor conference championships

Stark-Chessa previously won the 800 meters at the 2024 Maine Class C State Championships as a sophomore, placing 3rd in the 1600.

This year, he places 4th in the 4x800 and 11th in the 1600 at the state meet, preventing a female athlete from participating.Image
Male athlete Lucas "Lizzy" Bidwell at Conard HS, CT goes undefeated in the high jump the entire indoor season for Conard High School, CT, including a 1st place finish at the CCC Indoor Track & Field Championships.

Bidwell does not participate in the indoor state championship meet despite being a favorite to win.

Bidwell has previously won the state championship title in the long jump and the New England title in the high jump.

He has been nationally ranked in high jump and holds the school record. He competed in only one meet during the outdoor season.

Bidwell is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner."Image
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Male athlete John "Abigail" Jones at Martin Luther King HS, CA finished 1st and 2nd in the 100 hurdles and 300 hurdles at the 2025 BIG VIII League Championships.

He did not qualify for state this year. Jones has medaled in major meets such as the 2025 Inland Empire Championships and the Raincross Invitational.Image
Male athlete Sean "Luce" Allen at Plymouth-Whitmarsh HS, PA competed in the 200 meters at the 2025 PTFCA Indoor State Championships.

In outdoor, he placed 1st in the 200 meters and the 4x400 relay at the 2025 SOL American Conference Championships.

Allen has the school 200 meter record per .athletic.netImage
Male athlete Ashtyn "Ashlyn" Ortega-Crowley at Reed HS, NV was switched from the "girls'" to the boys' team at Reed High School, NV early in the season.

He has not accomplished anything of note.

Male athlete Aspen Hoffman at Seattle Academy, WA has only participated in a few meets this year.

He has previously qualified for the WIAA 1B, 2B, 1A State Championship meet in the 3200 meters.Image
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Male athlete Logan "Veronica" Garcia at East Valley HS, WA remains undefeated in the 400 meter dash, including a 1st place finish at the 2A GSL District Championship.

Garcia repeats as the Washington state champion in the "girls'" 400.

Garcia holds both the school records in the 200 and 400 meters per .athletic.netImage
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Male athlete Aayden "Ada" Gallagher at McDaniel HS, OR only participated in the 200 and 400 once all season (winning each event). He appears to have missed most of the season due to injury.

Last year, Gallagher won the Oregon state championship title in the 200 meters and placed 2nd in the 400 meters.

Gallagher holds both the 200 and 400 meter school records per athletic.net.Image
Male athlete David "Lilly" Beaumont at Battle Mountain HS, CO qualified for the 2025 Colorado State Track and Field Championships in the 100 meters, placing 14th.

Beaumont took a 2nd place finish in both the 100 and 200 meters at the 2025 WSL/SWL Conference Championships. Image
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Male athlete Liam "Lily" Norcross at Arroyo Grande HS, CA sparked controversy at his school where girls were uncomfortable with his presence in the locker room where they have described him as watching them change.

Norcross has run various events including the 400 meters where he placed 3rd in the varsity race at the 2025 Nipomo Invitational.Image
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Male athlete "AB" Hernandez goes undefeated in the triple jump the entire season and places 1st in both the triple and the long jump at the California state championships.

He "shares" the podium with the real female winners.

Hernandez has the school record in triple jump, long jump, and high jump, and was ranked at number 4 in the nation for "girls'" triple jump.Image
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Male athlete Elijah "Ara" Warren of Moorhead HS in Minnesota qualifies for the state championship meet in both the shot put and the triple jump where he places 9th.

Despite previously placing 3rd at state in the 300 hurdles as a sophomore, Warren switched to throws his senior year for unknown reasons.

Per athletic.net, Warren holds both the 300 hurdles and triple jump "girls'" school records.Image
Male athlete Zachary "Liaa" Rose of Ida B. Wells HS in Oregon places 1st in the high jump at the 6A-1 Portland Interscholastic League Championships.

He qualifies for the state championships where he places 5th, causing two girls to remain off the podium in protest.

Per , Rose has the "girls'" school record in the high jump.athletic.netImage
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Male athlete Stratton "Becky" Pepper-Jackson of Bridgeport HS in West Virginia qualifies for the state championship meet in both the shotput and discus.

Despite being only a freshman and an alleged pre-pubescent "transitioner," he places 3rd at state in the discus.

Pepper-Jackson has previously threatened girls with sexual remarks, telling them he's going to "stick my dick in your p*ssy"Image
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Softball:

Male athlete Charlie "Marissa" Rothenberger leads his Champlin Park HS team to a 1st place finish at the Minnesota 4A state championships.

Rothenberger is the team's star pitcher and pitched several shutouts through the state tournament.

The previous season, Rothenberger was the only underclassmen to be awarded an all-state honor in the 4A division.

Rothenberger is allegedly a pre-pubescent "transitioner"Image
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In all, male athletes took 18 top three state championship medals this year, winning 8 state championship titles.

I don't want to hear "this never happens" again.

Enough is enough.
*correction, AB placed 2nd in the long jump at state, not 1st.

He placed 1st in the triple jump and high jump.
*9 state championship titles and 19 top three

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Australia Athletics' general manager, Neil King said, "There is no true definition of what is a woman."

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