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🧵 Is there Ijma' that Isa AS is alive?

Some Muslims claim there's consensus that Jesus AS is still alive & that denying it is Kufr. But Tafsir Tabari records 4 differing views of the Salaf.

3/4 views translate 'Tawaffa' as 'Taking of the Soul', disproving any claimed Ijma'. Image
VIEW #1: TAWAFFA = DEATH

"And others said: The meaning is: I will take you with the taking of death." Image
VIEW #2: TAWAFFA = SLEEP

"Then the interpreters differed regarding the meaning of 'taking'...

Some said: 'It is the taking [of soul] during sleep' and according to them, the meaning was: 'I am causing you to sleep and raising you during your sleep.'" Image
VIEW #3: TAWAFFA = DEATH (In End Times)

"And others said: The meaning is: When Allah said, 'O Jesus, I am raising you to Me...I will cause you to die after I send you back down to the world.' They said: This is from what is presented earlier but meant to be later..." Image
VIEW #4: TAWAFFA = PHYSICAL TAKING

"Others said: The meaning is: 'I am taking you from the earth and raising you to Me.'...I am seizing you from the earth alive to My presence, and taking you to what is with Me without death, and raising you..." Image
CONCLUSION

• No Ijma' that Isa AS is alive
• Even Salaf had differing views so how can there be Ijma'?
• 3/4 views of Salaf translate 'Tawaffa' as 'taking of the soul'. NOT the body!
• 2/4 translate it as DEATH

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🧵 Similarities in the death of Muhammad ﷺ & Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS

Anti-Ahmadis make allegations about the blessed death of the Promised Messiah AS but such allegations are only mocking the Prophet ﷺ.

Both died while surrounded by family & in remembrance of Allah. Image
1) EXTREME SUFFERING?

Anti-Ahmadis claim that Ahmad AS had to suffer during his last illness which isn't befitting a prophet's death.

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[Sahih al-Bukhari 5646] Image
2) LAST WORDS: REMEMBRANCE OF ALLAH

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• Ahmad AS:
"O my beloved Allah" Image
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🧵Meaning of Nuzul (نزول)

Non-Ahmadi Muslims claim that since the Ahadith use the word Nuzul (Descend) for the Messiah, thus, he is alive in the Heavens with his physical body.

But Nuzul has been used for:
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• Animals
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• Clothes
• Treasures Image
1) NUZUL IN HOLY QUR'AN

The Holy Quran uses the word Nuzul for the following. Whenever Allah provides something of importance, the word 'sent down' (Nuzul) is used.

• Muhammad ﷺ
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• Clothes
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2) NUZUL IN AHADITH

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• Muhammad ﷺ
• Armies
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🧵 Nuzul (نزول) in Ahadith

Many Muslims believe Isa AS is alive and will fly down from the sky only because ahadith mention his descent in the latter days.

1. Contradicts the Quran and Ahadith.
2. Ahadith don't mention descent from "sky/heaven". Image
1) NUZUL OF MUHAMMAD ﷺ

وَنَزَلَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَحْتَ سَمُرَةٍ
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) took shelter under a Samura tree.
[Bukhari 4135] Image
2) NUZUL OF MUHAMMAD ﷺ

أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم لَمَّا نَزَلَ الْحِجْرَ فِي غَزْوَةِ تَبُوكَ
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) landed at Al-Hijr during the Ghazwa of Tabuk
[Bukhari 3378] Image
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🧵 Nuzul (نزول) in the Holy Qur'an

Many Muslims believe Isa AS is alive and will fly down from the sky only because ahadith mention his descent in the latter days.

1. Contradicts Quran and Ahadith.
2. Ahadith don't mention descent from "sky/heaven". Image
1) NUZUL OF MUHAMMAD ﷺ

Quran mentions that the Prophet ﷺ was sent down. Did he also fly down from the sky as the non-Ahmadis imagine?

“.. Allah has indeed sent down to you a Reminder—A Messenger, who recites unto you the clear Signs of Allah ..”
[Quran 65:10-11] Image
2) NUZUL OF ANIMALS

Quran also mentions that cows/sheep were sent down as well.

اَنۡزَلَ لَکُمۡ مِّنَ الۡاَنۡعَامِ ثَمٰنِیَۃَ اَزۡوَاجٍ
“…. He has sent down for you of the cattle eight pairs.”
[Quran 39:6] Image
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🧵Is Isa AS alive? Raf'a Explained | Quran 4:158

Many Muslims claim this verse proves Isa AS has been physically alive in heaven for 2000 years:

بل رّفعه الله إليه
"Rather, Allah raised him to Himself"
[Quran 4:157]

Let's find out! Image
1) ❌ REFUTATION OF THE "SUNNI"/SHIA BELIEFS

The following 🧵 refutes:
1) Isa AS is alive since the verse says he was NOT killed/crucified
2) Isa AS was raised ALIVE to HEAVEN with PHYSICAL BODY
2) ⬆️ ALLAH'S ATTRIBUTE: AL-RAFI

"Among the names of Allah, the Most High, is الرافع (The Exalter). He is the One who raises the believers by granting them happiness, and elevates His close servants by drawing them near"

This attribute is NOT used in terms of physical ascension Image
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🧵 Is Isa AS alive? | Debnking non-Ahmadis on Quran 4:158

Many Muslims use Quran 4:157-158 as proof that Isa AS is alive in the Heaven with his physical body for 2000+ years.

Let's examine how they stretch, twist, and force meanings onto the verse to support their belief. Image
1) ✝️ NOT CRUCIFIED & NOT KILLED = ALIVE?

Argument:
Since Isa AS wasn't killed/crucified, he must be alive.

Reality:
By this logic, EVERYONE who wasn't killed/crucified is alive in heaven - including Muhammad ﷺ!

Absurd, isn't it? Image
2)🔺RAISED TO HEAVEN?

Argument:
Isa AS was raised physically to heaven.

Reality:
The verse states that Allah raised Isa to Himself but does not mention "heavens" or specify a physical elevation.

Inferring physical ascension is an unwarranted extrapolation.
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