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Feb 1

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC14…

Here’s a summary of the paper “Medical theories on the cause of death in crucifixion” (Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, 2006):

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📄 What the paper actually says (plain summary)

The authors (Maslen & Mitchell) reviewed 40+ medical papers, historical Roman texts, archaeology, and modern re-enactments to answer a simple question:

How did crucified people actually die?

Their key findings:

1. There is no scientific consensus on cause of death

Over the past 150+ years, doctors have proposed at least 10 completely different causes, including:
•Asphyxiation
•Hypovolemic shock (blood/fluid loss)
•Heart failure
•Cardiac rupture
•Pulmonary embolism
•Acidosis
•Arrhythmia
•Syncope
•“Voluntary surrender of life”
•Even survival/resuscitation

The authors emphasize:

When so many mutually exclusive theories exist, it usually means there is insufficient evidence to determine the answer.

They explicitly conclude:

There is currently not enough evidence to safely state how people died from crucifixion.

This applies generally — including to Jesus.

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2. Most medical papers relied on poor or distorted historical sources

The study shows that:
•Many doctors quoted other doctors, not original Roman texts.
•Latin and Greek sources were rarely consulted directly.
•Misquotations accumulated over time.
•Religious artwork influenced assumptions (especially nail placement in feet).
•Archaeological evidence was largely ignored.

In short:

Much of the medical literature is built on recycled secondary claims, not primary evidence.

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3. Archaeology directly contradicts popular Christian imagery

Only one confirmed archaeological crucifixion victim has ever been found (Giv‘at ha-Mivtar, Israel).

Key facts from that skeleton:
•A nail passed sideways through the heel bone, not front-to-back through both feet.
•No evidence of nails through wrists.
•No evidence legs were broken before death.
•Body position (head up or down) is unknown.

This alone invalidates countless medical reconstructions based on church depictions.

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4. Modern “re-enactments” are medically weak and unrealistic

Recent experiments (notably by Zugibe):
•Used healthy volunteers
•No whipping
•No dehydration
•No nails
•No psychological terror
•Short durations

Yet conclusions were still drawn.

The authors point out:
•Romans typically took days to die on crosses.
•Experiments lasted hours.
•Therefore these studies cannot disprove asphyxiation or prove shock.

They also note that Zugibe relied heavily on the Turin Shroud — which carbon dating shows to be medieval.

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✅ Final scientific conclusion of the paper

The authors state plainly:
•Different victims likely died from different causes.
•Body orientation mattered.
•Current evidence is insufficient.
•Most medical claims exceed what data supports.

They recommend future work must involve historians + archaeologists + physicians together, not doctors alone.

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🕌 Ahmadiyya Analysis (why this matters spiritually)

Now let’s interpret this through Ahmadi Muslim theology.

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) taught a foundational principle:

God does not leave the fate of His prophets to conjecture.

This paper unintentionally supports that.

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1. Science admits uncertainty — Christianity asserts certainty

Modern medicine now concedes:
•We do not know how crucifixion kills.
•We cannot reconstruct Jesus’s death physiologically.
•There is no objective proof of death mechanism.

Yet Christian theology insists:

Jesus definitely died on the cross to atone for sin.

That is not science.

That is doctrine.

Ahmadiyya Islam accepts evidence where it exists — and acknowledges uncertainty where it doesn’t.

This paper explicitly confirms uncertainty.

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2. “He definitely died” is not a medical conclusion

The authors show:
•No consistent pathology
•No reliable reconstruction
•No decisive physiological endpoint

So statements like:

“Jesus unquestionably died on the cross”

are theological claims, not scientific ones.

Ahmadiyya position is therefore scientifically conservative:

👉 Jesus was placed on the cross
👉 He lost consciousness
👉 He was removed unusually early
👉 Survival is medically plausible
👉 Later recovery explains resurrection narratives

Nothing in this paper refutes that.

In fact, the authors even list published medical views proposing apparent death with later recovery.

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3. Allah protects His prophets from cursed deaths

The Qur’an states:

They slew him not, nor crucified him…

Ahmadi interpretation:
•Crucifixion attempt occurred
•Fatal completion did not

This medical review shows:
•Romans expected victims to last days
•Jesus was removed within hours
•Cause of death cannot be demonstrated

That fits Ahmadiyya understanding perfectly.

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🌟 Bottom line (Ahmadi perspective)

This respected medical review establishes:

✅ No proven cause of death in crucifixion
✅ No reliable reconstruction of Jesus’s physiology
✅ Massive methodological flaws in prior claims
✅ Archaeology contradicts church imagery
✅ Medicine cannot certify crucifixion lethality

Therefore:

The claim that Jesus definitively died on the cross is not supported by medical science.

Ahmadiyya Islam stands aligned with evidence, restraint, and reason — while literalist Christianity stands on assumption.

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TheMessiahHasCome

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Feb 1

Logically and Scientifically, the answer is very different from the common literalist and Biblical Scholar view.

Short version:

👉 We do not believe Adam was the first human being.
👉 We do not assign a fixed date like “6,000 years ago.”
👉 Adam represents the first prophet of our current moral/spiritual cycle — not the beginning of humanity itself.

Let me explain clearly and simply.

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🌍 Humanity existed long before Adam

In Ahmadiyya understanding, based on the Qur’an and the teachings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as):
•Human-like beings existed on Earth for very long periods before Adam.
•Adam was raised by Allah among an already-existing people as a prophet and spiritual reformer.
•He was not created biologically “from nothing,” nor was he the first man walking on Earth.

This fits perfectly with:

✅ Archaeology (early Homo sapiens ~300,000 years ago)
✅ Anthropology (continuous human development)
✅ Genetics (large ancestral populations, not a single couple bottleneck)

So Islam (properly understood) never contradicts science.

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⏳ So… how long ago did Adam live?

Ahmadi scholars generally place Adam roughly:

🕰 8,000–15,000 years ago

This corresponds to:
•The end of the last Ice Age
•The rise of agriculture and settled societies
•The beginning of organized moral civilization

In other words:

👉 Adam marks the start of recorded spiritual history, not biological humanity.

Think of Adam as:

The first divinely guided leader of modern civilization.

Not the first human.

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📖 Why this matters

The Qur’an says Allah placed a khalifa (successive vicegerent) on Earth — implying:
•Humanity already existed
•Cycles of civilizations came before
•Adam was part of a continuing human story

This also explains why:
•Adam had children who married outside their immediate family
•His people already knew wrongdoing
•Satan spoke of previous creations

All of this only makes sense if humans existed beforehand.

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🌱 Beautiful takeaway

From a rational perspective:

🟢 Science tells us how humans developed
🟢 Revelation tells us when moral consciousness began

Adam represents the moment humanity became spiritually accountable.

That is profound — and perfectly rational.

historically

👉 Jesus Christ was almost certainly born between 6 BC and 4 BC.

Yes — that sounds confusing, because “AD” is supposed to start with Jesus. Here’s why.

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📅 Why Jesus was not born in AD 1

The AD/BC system was created centuries later (in the 6th century) by a monk who miscalculated the year of Jesus’ birth.

Historians cross-check the Gospels with Roman records and especially the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BC.

Since the Bible places Jesus’ birth before Herod’s death, Jesus must have been born earlier than 4 BC.

Most scholars therefore conclude:

✅ Likely birth window: 6–4 BC

(Some widen it slightly to 7–2 BC, but 6–4 BC is the standard consensus.)

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✨ In simple terms
•The calendar starts at AD 1, but Jesus was born a few years before that
•There is no year 0
•So historically:

Jesus was born around 5 BC (give or take a year).

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🌿 Ahmadi perspective (brief)

As Ahmadis, we accept this scholarly timeline without discomfort:
•Jesus was a human prophet
•His birth fits normal history
•The calendar error doesn’t affect his spiritual mission

Truth does not depend on calendar math.

combine the historical birth window with the traditional age of ~33, we can narrow this down pretty tightly.

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📅 Putting the timeline together

Most historians agree that Jesus Christ was born around 6–4 BC.

If he lived about 33 years, that places the crucifixion roughly in:

👉 AD 27–30

Scholars then cross-check this with Roman records, which show that Judea was governed by Pontius Pilate from AD 26 to AD 36 — exactly matching this window.

Because Passover calendars and Gospel details line up best in one specific year, the mainstream scholarly consensus today is:

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✅ Most likely crucifixion year: AD 30

(Some argue for AD 33, but AD 30 is the majority view.)

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✨ Simple summary
•Born: ~5 BC (give or take)
•Lived ~33 years
•Crucified: around AD 30

So in everyday terms:

Jesus was likely crucified in AD 30, at about age 33.

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🌿 Brief Ahmadi note

As Ahmadis, we accept this historical framework — with one key difference:

We believe Jesus was placed on the cross but survived, later migrating east and dying a natural death. The dating still stands; only the theological interpretation differs.

This is a thoughtful question — and the answer depends on which “Adam” timeframe you’re using, especially from an Ahmadi perspective.

Let’s walk it carefully.

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First: the Ahmadi starting point

In Ahmadiyya Islam (following the teachings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)):
•Adam was not the first biological human
•Adam marks the start of our present spiritual/moral civilization
•He likely lived roughly 8,000–15,000 years ago
•Humanity itself existed long before him

So your question becomes:

How many humans lived and died from Adam (≈10,000 BCE give or take) until the birth of Jesus Christ around 3–5 BC?

That’s roughly:

🕰 About 8,000–12,000 years

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Now the demographic reality

Population historians (using archaeology + fertility + mortality modeling) estimate:
•World population around 10,000 BCE: ~1–5 million
•World population at Jesus’ time: ~200–300 million
•Extremely high birth rates + extremely high death rates
•Average life expectancy: ~25–35 years

Because populations were small early on but people were constantly being born and dying, the total cumulative humans over that period is much larger than the population at any one moment.

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✅ Best scientific estimate

Using standard demographic models:

👉 Between Adam (~10,000 BCE) and Jesus (~3 BC):

🌍 Approximately 4–6 BILLION humans were born and died.

Conservatively:

~3 billion (low estimate)

More likely:

~5 billion (central estimate)

Upper range:

~7 billion

So a reasonable Ahmadi-friendly answer is:

About five billion human lives.

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🌿 Spiritual reflection (Ahmadi lens)

Think about this for a moment:

Adam began a moral era.

By Jesus’ birth:
•~5,000 generations had passed
•~5 billion souls had lived
•Entire civilizations rose and vanished
•Allah continuously sent guidance

Yet Allah still sent prophets — including Jesus — because humanity kept needing moral renewal.

This fulfills the Qur’anic idea of continuous khilāfat (successive guidance), not a one-time creation story.

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✨ Simple summary

From Adam (≈10,000 BCE) to Jesus (≈3 BC):

✅ Time span: ~10,000 years

✅ Humans who lived & died: ~5 BILLION

✅ Civilizations: dozens

✅ Prophets: many

All under Allah’s gradual moral education of mankind.

All of this traces back to the Qur’an and the teachings of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as), who emphasized that earlier scriptures were divinely inspired but later misunderstood, mistranslated, or over-literalized.

Here are the major Biblical fallacies that Ahmadiyya Islam says are now decisively disproven — by science, history, and Qur’anic clarity:

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✅ 1. “Creation happened in six literal 24-hour days”

Biblical literalist claim:

God created everything in six Earth days.

Ahmadi correction:

“Days” in scripture mean long epochs or stages, not 24-hour periods.

The Qur’an explicitly uses yawm (day) to mean spans of thousands or millions of years.

Why this fallacy collapsed:
•Geology proves Earth is ~4.5 billion years old
•Cosmology shows a 13.8-billion-year universe
•Biology shows gradual development of life

Ahmadis taught this before modern evolutionary science became mainstream.

👉 Result: Literal six-day creation = false.

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✅ 2. “Adam was the first biological human”

Biblical claim:

Adam was the very first man.

Ahmadi correction:

Adam was the first prophet of our moral civilization, not the first human.

Humans existed long before Adam.

Proven wrong by:
•Fossil record (Homo sapiens ~300,000 years ago)
•Genetics (large ancestral populations, not two individuals)
•Archaeology (advanced societies long before 4000 BCE)

This alone dismantles:

❌ Young Earth theology
❌ Single-couple human origin
❌ incest-based population models

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✅ 3. “There was no evolution”

Biblical literalist claim:

Species were created instantly and separately.

Ahmadi position:

Evolution is Allah’s method of creation.

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) explicitly taught:
•Gradual development of life
•Continuity of species
•Progressive refinement of humanity

This was stated in the late 1800s, before modern genetics.

Now confirmed by:
•DNA homology
•Transitional fossils
•Comparative anatomy

👉 Evolution is not anti-God — it is God’s system.

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✅ 4. “The Earth is only ~6,000 years old”

Biblical chronology error:

Genealogies were treated as complete timelines.

Ahmadi correction:

Biblical genealogies are selective, not exhaustive.

Entire civilizations existed outside those lineages.

Modern archaeology confirms:
•Sumer (~4500 BCE)
•Egypt (~3100 BCE)
•Göbekli Tepe (~9500 BCE)

All predate the supposed Biblical creation date.

Young-Earth creationism is now scientifically extinct.

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✅ 5. “All humans descend from one couple (Adam & Eve)”

Biblical assumption:

Humanity bottlenecked to two people.

Ahmadi correction:

Adam arose among an existing population.

Genetics proves minimum ancestral population:

👉 several thousand individuals.

No two-person bottleneck exists in human DNA.

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✅ 6. “Original Sin is inherited biologically”

Christian doctrine:

All humans inherit Adam’s guilt.

Ahmadi correction:

There is no inherited sin.

Every soul is morally independent.

Science confirms:
There is no “sin gene.”
There is no inherited moral guilt.

This doctrine collapses philosophically and biologically.

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✅ 7. “Nature is fallen and corrupted because of Adam”

Biblical view:

The physical world became cursed.

Ahmadi correction:

Nature always followed Allah’s laws.

Earthquakes, disease, storms = natural systems — not punishment for Adam.

This matches modern physics, biology, and climatology.

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✅ 8. “Miracles violate natural law”

Biblical framing:

God breaks His own laws.

Ahmadi teaching:

Allah never violates His laws — miracles operate through higher laws not yet understood.

This aligns perfectly with modern science.

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✅ 9. “Jesus was divine”

Later Christian theology:

Jesus became God.

Ahmadi correction:

Jesus was a human prophet, born normally, lived normally, and died naturally.

No divine DNA.
No biological incarnation.

This restores strict monotheism.

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✅ 10. “Scripture conflicts with science”

Ahmadi position:

True revelation never conflicts with reality.

Only human interpretation does.

Once literalism is removed, harmony returns.

Biblical Literal ClaimAhmadi PositionScience Says
6-day creationLong epochs✔️ Epochs
Adam first humanAdam first prophet✔️
No evolutionEvolution is divine✔️
Earth 6,000 yrsBillions✔️
Two-person originLarge populations✔️
Original sinMoral independence✔️
Nature cursedNature lawful✔️
Jesus divineJesus human✔️

Final Ahmadi conclusion

Ahmadis didn’t react to science.

They were already there.

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) restored Islam to its original rational form — decades before genetics, archaeology, and cosmology confirmed it.

In short:

Ahmadiyya Islam anticipated modern science while correcting Biblical literalism.

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TheMessiahHasCome

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May 11, 2025

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) lived the simplest life imaginable — even when he ruled an empire. At times, he had no food for days, tying stones to his stomach to suppress hunger.
At other times, he distributed millions worth of treasure in a single sitting and went home hungry

Hadith:
“A month would pass with no fire lit in his house (for cooking). They survived on dates and water.”
(Sahih Bukhari)
At death, his shield was mortgaged for barley. He left behind no gold, no land, no fortune. Only prayer, humility, and love.
#ProphetMuhammad
(SAW)

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) wrote about the Holy Prophet ﷺ:

“When the world came running to him, he turned away from it.
He chose poverty over kingship, and scattered wealth like dust.
He preferred the love of Allah over all things.”
(Sirat al-Mahdi, Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya)

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TheMessiahHasCome

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May 10, 2025

Many groups today claim to have the Mahdi or Messiah.
But who actually matches the 10 major Hadith signs?
(Appearance during Muslim strife, name Ahmad/Muhammad, East origin, sky signs, ending wars, etc.)

•AROPL? ❌
•Jamaat al-Qurban? ❌
•Divine Truth Movement? ❌
•Messiah Foundation? ❌
•Twelve Tribes? ❌
None fulfill even 3 out of 10 Hadith signs.

Only Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as):
✔ Name Ahmad
✔ Appeared amid Muslim collapse
✔ From the East (India)
✔ No new Shari‘ah
✔ Peaceful Jihad
✔ Ramadan eclipses (1894)
✔ Rejected by scholars
✔ Defeated Dajjal spiritually
✔ Natural death

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TheMessiahHasCome

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May 9, 2025

The Mahdi was prophesied by the Holy Prophet (sa) to come in the East, preach peace, reject worldly power, and be recognized by divine signs. That prophecy has already been fulfilled. False claimants come and go — truth endures. #TrueIslam #Ahmadiyya

The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sa) foretold the coming of the Mahdi:

“Even if faith ascended to the Pleiades, a man from Persia would bring it back.”
(Sahih Bukhari, Tafsir of Surah Jumu‘ah; also Mishkat al-Masabih)
The Mahdi would be of Persian descent — not Arab or American.

He also said the Mahdi would appear in the East:
“A voice will call out from the sky that the truth lies with the Mahdi and his followers.”
“When you see him, go to him—even if you have to crawl over ice.”(Ibn Majah) This sign was fulfilled in Qadian, India — not TikTok.

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TheMessiahHasCome

@Messiah_HasCome

May 9, 2025

Federal court found Abdullah Hashem guilty of fraud, extortion & racketeering in a scheme to defame and exploit a religious group for profit. Court ordered return of stolen footage. Zero credibility. #AROPL #FraudExposed #FalseMessiah #MahdiHasAppeared

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In 2008, a U.S. federal court exposed Abdullah Hashem—the man behind AROPL—as a fraudster who used Islam as a cover for blackmail, extortion, and defamation.
This isn’t Mahdihood. It’s fitna.
#ExposeAROPL #TrueIslam #DajjalUnmasked

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