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New study out in PNAS Nexus! 🚨Is modernization driving cultures farther apart?? Here it is in 60 seconds. 🧵 academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/arti…Image
People have the strong intuition that modernization is erasing cultural differences. The idea is that people around the world have Netflix and Starbucks now... Image
...and that's making cultures more similar. Image
But there's some evidence that cultural differences are actually becoming larger! 🧐 For example, if we look at all 40 values questions in the World Values Survey going back to the 1980s, cultures have become *more different*, not more similar. Weird! nature.com/articles/s4146…Image
People around the world used to agree more about things like the morality of suicide and the importance of teaching children perseverance. Now people agree less than they used to. Image
Is this political? Maybe it has something to do with geo-political rivalries and politicians fanning the flames of culture wars. Image
That sounds logical, but I have a hard time squaring that with this. I analyzed rice-wheat cultural differences within China over time... Image
Northern and southern China have different cultures (I think) because rice required more labor and coordination than wheat in northern China. That could explain why southern China has tighter social norms and more nepotism. @AlexEngPsych @PNASNews pnas.org/doi/abs/10.107…Image
So how are those rice-wheat cultural differences changing as China modernizes?
Census data to the rescue! Researchers have used Census data to estimate collectivism, and we can get data in China going back to the 1980s. Perfect! Image
My team created a collectivism index uses data on living alone, living with extended family, divorce rates, and other factors. @NaturePortfolio nature.com/articles/s4159…Image
The rice theory would predict higher collectivism in rice-farming areas, but check it out. Thirty years ago, it's not significant. Uh oh! Image
But look at what happened in 2020. Rice-wheat differences are stronger now. Image
That's weird because people in China are leaving farming. Image
That's where my new paper comes in. I offer an explanation for these strange trends. I call it the "seed theory." Image
I think a lot of people (including me!) have the intuition that modernization works like radiation. Image
Like radiation, modernization weakens culture. And like radiation, it doesn't matter what's in people's heads. Radiation weakens people whether they believe it or not. Image
But that intuitive model doesn't fit with increasing cultural differences. The seed theory argues that modernization sometimes acts like water on a seed, increasing cultural differences. Image
Here's why. Modernization brings wealth and technology. That gives people choice. People make choices depending on the values and beliefs in their culture. So the effect of money depends on who that money hits (unlike radiation). Image
That can explain why rice-wheat differences grew when China experienced 40 years of wild economic growth. Image
And it can explain why modernization increased liberal social values in the West, but not in Asia or Africa. Perhaps the West has different seeds—ones rooted in individual freedom. Image
Now, maybe I'm biased. For one, if these fascinating trends are true, it means I'll still have a job in 20 years. 😅
But there's enough misfit puzzle pieces to start asking why at least *some* cultural differences are increasing with modernization.
To me, that sounds like a fun question for researchers to solve! 🤩 In my new article, I lay out a few specific ways modernization can increase differences and why this is different from popular theories like Fukuyama's "End of History." No paywall! academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/arti…
Shout out to Josh Jackson and @DanMedvedev6 for documenting these fascinating trends in value divergence! 👏
@NaturePortfolio Thanks to @wei_liuqing @AnHuang96 @AlexEngPsych and Jiong for their hard work on the collectivism index. 👏

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Mar 6
New study just out! 🚨 We created a way to rewind and fast forward through cultural differences in China.
@NaturePortfolio nature.com/articles/s4159…Image
We used Census data to estimate cultural differences in collectivism across 356 prefectures (like counties). Image
...and 31 provinces. Image
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Jan 6
Do cities make people WEIRD? The answer we found conflicts with what most people think. We tracked 1,400 teenagers as they moved across China—some to giant cities like Shanghai, others to small towns like Zhoukou, Henan. bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bj…
We tested their cultural thought style right when they moved, again after one semester, and then after three years. Image
In our thought style test, students categorized objects. Two belong to the same abstract category (train – bus). Two share a functional relationship (train – tracks). Image
Read 17 tweets
Oct 17, 2025
This study took us years and years, and it's finally out! 🥳 Here's years of our life in 60 seconds. 🚨 @BPSOfficial @AlexEngPsych @liuqing_wei @Tongrongtianbpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bj…
Here's the conclusion first: Kids in China aren't farming much these days (shocker!), but they're still learning rice-wheat ways of thinking.
We tested about 1,400 students’ thought style as they moved to college across China. Image
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Sep 4, 2025
How much of mask use in China was forced? We tracked this by observing real mask use in 2020 versus 2023, four months after China lifted its zero-Covid policy. journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.117…
There are lots of surveys asking people during the pandemic if they wore masks. But some people lie. Or they exaggerate. Image
So my research team stared at people in public, stomached the social awkwardness, and counted the real-life mask use of over 23,000 people across China. Image
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Aug 19, 2025
Is homo economicus more male or female? Poll: 69% of people said male. And they'd be right! But our data suggests that's *only* for WEIRD cultures: heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPag… x.com/ThomasTalhelm/…Image
We gave ~7,000 people a simple work task in two Western, individualistic cultures (US, UK) and three more collectivistic cultures (China, South Africa, Mexico). The task was like a captcha. Image
We established an explicit contract. We're paying you to complete 10 images. After that, you can stop, and you'll still receive full pay. Image
Read 15 tweets
Aug 12, 2025
When the star leaves, do bench players shine or fade? Fun new study on talent and culture. (Yes, fun in the Journal of Corporate Finance! Trust me!) @JCorpFin sciencedirect.com/science/articl…Image
Here's the setup. Researchers tracked how accurate stock analysts in China were at predicting companies' earnings per share from 2007 to 2023. Image
They searched for "stars"--analysts who were voted as the top five in any year. The "bench players" were analysts in the same companies as those stars.
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