WAYMO: If you were to testify at trial would you be able to say one way or another that any Google confidential information made its way onto the servers at Uber?
FRIEDBERG: Um. … the servers at Uber… I don’t personally have knowledge of that.
FRIEDBERG: I only saw one text message on an Otto device that related to Google.
ALSUP: Objection’s overruled.
........... for some reason Uber is going ahead and going into the whole clownshow where the PIs went there and couldn't find definitive evidence that the disks were shredded
Waymo tl;dr of Stroz: they went over a bajillion documents and there's more stuff that was deleted and erased and why tho
MAUGERI: It’s difficult to determine what happened to these files because they were deleted and not active on the device
WAYMO: Objection, foundation.
ALSUP: Do you know what you’re talking about?
MAUGERI: Yes, I do.
ALSUP: Alright, we’ve laid a foundation.
Picture of a person holding a miniature car
Picture of a hanging plant
Picture of components
Screenshot of a Aspen invoice
Picture of muffins in a basket
WAYMO: Do you remember the muffins?
MAUGERI: Yes, I remember the muffins.
WAYMO: They're all in the same folder as the muffins?
MAUGERI: I don't know if they're in the same folder but they're in the same report.
Ah, yes, an incredibly Normal file to create a month before you quit your job with no notice
That's speculation says Alsup, so we do a round of other questions to get at similar gist
CRAIN: I didn’t examine Uber computers.
UBER: Yes or no?
CRAIN: No, that wasn’t my role in the investigation.
Rapid fire objection on multiple grounds
WAYMO: Your honor, I'm just asking the same question.
Allowed, and yeah, Crain can't rule it out
--10 hours later--
"Do you have any evidence that the 14,000 files were not not not not not not not
First you have to:
1) be able to explain that there's a thing such as malware without sighing
2) own a nice suit
3) have grown up in the local area and have lovely children
WAYMO: What is the Google Cloud platform?
guys i'm so tired
JANOSKO: So... [begins to talk]
Alsup interrupts and says he's not being fair to Mr. Gonzales and he should answer
Janosko's answer is that "there are procedures in place"
JANOSKO: I don't know if downloading all the data on the SVN server is necessarily a malicious act, it's what they do after that.
Janosko does not know.
ZBROZEK: We will download the entire repository, usually the present-day snapshot, we'll upload it back with whatever we've changed.
ZBROZEK: It was the SVN server
WAYMO: Is that still the domain?
ZBROZEK: No, not anymore.
WAYMO: Why did you change it?
ZBROZEK: Once it became public it was necessary to get it changed.
Well, Anthony’s log speaks to the number of files. It also expresses the (rough) file size for each transaction. Figuring out the totals for both can be done by parsing the log snippet. +
(the screen is a demonstrative from the Google forensic side showing where the full repo went -- to a SD card etc)
The question was not allowed
WAYMO: What did you make of that?
"At least historically, high-value has been algorithms and software.The hardware (at all levels) was a second class citizen. Maybe opinions have changed."
WAYMO: Do you consider yourself a low-value worker?
WAYMO: Do you think the technology in the SVN server is low-value technology?
ZBROZEK: It’s everything you need to build a self-driving car, there’s nothing low value there.
ZBROZEK: No, that’s not entirely true.
Rolling the depo tape
ZBROZEK: No, but nobody monitors when we get water from the refrigerator, either.
ZBROZEK: I have been trying to avoid the legal definition.
"Sasha, we want to be able to say that SVN contains only internal confidential stuff, which I understand from Pierre is the case"
ZBROZEK: I’m sure I have at some point.
UBER: But to this day, if someone logs into the SVN database following your instructions, *everything is downloaded*.
ZBROZEK: Because we wanted to protect the contents of the information that was in there.
ZBROZEK: GCE, the Google Compute Engine
ZBROZEK: False positives are not useful.
UBER: If you log into anything as a Google employee it's password protected, right?
ZBROZEK: Well it depends, have you logged on from that device before . . .
Their firm domains are, in fact, blacked out
DROZ: They are pretty expensive and they don’t work well for automotive, they were very fragile.
DROZ: They are the eyes of the car.
.... I think.