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Don't look at it as a JOB

See it as one's DUTY.

A patient is a doctor's extended #family

The art of #medicine goes well beyond the realm of a 'work-shift'

There is no current proven role of #herbal medicines in #cancer even though a lot of basic #science work is ongoing +
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Oral cancer is treatable condition. Please C Indian Clinical Practice Guidelines for oral cavity cancer bit.ly/3vnJoWJ

Ther R guidlines formulated for management in low resource areas too onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.10…

None of these feature #herbal drugs or #Ayurveda +
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The professor mite B right in his own terms, but not scientifically

A student must B able to rise to the occasion & correct/question his/her teacher if need B - this is truly success of practical education

Neither the professor, nor the patient, knws abt effect of herbals
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1/Cirrhosis patient on Madhumardan #ayurvedic tabs by #Jain & Pranada #herbal proprietary drug by #Bipha. Patient now with jaundice, recovered from brain failure and an episode of infection. Listed 4 liver transplant. #Ayurveda prescribed by patient's #BAMS sister
Issues👇
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Madhumardan contains 32 herbs.
Yes. 32 herbs. It's just crazy. 32 herbs. I can't get over this. Website mentions no side effects. Human #health has no value in #AYURVEDA. This is the truth about the #science of #life which is actually science of #business. Harmful BS.
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Pranada is a proprietary medicine. Look at indications for use. Dropsy, hydropsy and cirrhosis. What are these diseases which are totally different from each other, treated with same drug. Vague idiots. AGAIN, #PSEUDOSCIENCE OF BUSINESS. No regard 4 human health. Stupids.
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#Thread
#Theerthamalai is Mahadev Shiva #Temple along with His consort Devi Vadivaambigai, located at #dharmapuri Dist, #TamilNadu . The name Theertha means holy water malai means hill in Tamil. (Hill with Holy Water). Theerthamalai is a village situated @sattology @Itishree001
about 16 km northeast of #Harur. This temple also called as Theerthagireeswar (Theertha+Giri+Eswar)
Temple is located at the top of a hillock about 1 km up the steep slope of the hillock, derives its name from five springs in the temple. Mahadev Shiva is main deity. @karthiklv
#Temple was built in the 7th century, having many contributions being made by the Chola & Pandya Kings. Several inscriptions can be found in Temple. There is a deep connection of this temple with #Ramayana. When Sri Ram killed Ravana – @hathyogi31 @eshers @rightwingchora
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1/A horrific patient scene today. A #kidney #transplant patient doing well since 2015. Had fall and fracture of foot. Underwent surgery,improving. Asked for physio sessions to continue at home. Asks around,finds #ayurvedic traditional healer. He does external works.
2/ patient feels better. #Ayurveda healer gets his trust. Says post transplant infections and diabetes worsen (patient was already diabetic kidney disease for which transplant was done). Says #natural is safest way. Patient falls for healers confidence. Starts #herbal drugs.
3/ Drugs and potions prepared at home from locally sourced plants. Small fee Healer also advise nutritional changes. More like starvation. No proteins. Remember patient is post kidney transplant. #weightloss in 1 mo. Loss of appetite in 2 months. Then came something unexpected.
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Ok this is interesting #livertwitter #MedTwitter
26 yr old woman with jaundice+severe itching (a.k.a cholestatic hepatitis). Routine causes - viruses, prescription drugs, autoimmune liver disease blood tests - neg. No #ayurveda or #herbal drug use. Mysterious🤔
Liver biopsy👇
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#pathology expert says its #drug induced liver injury. But patient denies any drug use. She has #PCOD - polycystic ovarian disease (mayocl.in/34S2LMh) and hence, #overweight.
Deep dive into history again - says she's taking #vitamins for weight loss! Asked to show👇
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Can you identify the culprit component that caused this woman's severe liver injury? #Pathologist is right! #PathTwitter
Culprit - Chromium picolinate in #health #supplement 4 #diabetes #weigthloss. #Chromium is micronutrient enuf in daily food intake bit.ly/3nYNeBB
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A person messaged me asking if he could continue taking this following drug for memory boosting.

The drug contains 'Brahmi' from herb Bacopa.

Fact: Depending on #Ayurveda, which itself, #quackery, embodiment of #pseudoscience ➡️#herbal #memory booster is #fraud. #medtwitter
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People age, som develop cognition disorders - there R identifiable risk factors, treatable&controllable.

Cognition disorders➡️bit.ly/2KnXZ25 - which of these are prevented by Bacopa? Actually none

Let us see 2 large metanalyses/systematic reviews on Bacopa extracts
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A - pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24252493/
Result: some potential, nothing definite because it is never compared with a standard drug. I dont know Y complementary and alternative medicines R always compared with placebo when there are other better standards 2 compare them with! #livertwitter
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Here is something funny&sad
Yes. Its about #hepatitis C and #Ayurveda #Homeopathy #Ayush
A thread

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32 yr male. Routine check in 2017, found 2 have hepatitis C virus (HCV) +ve. That is, anti-HCV +ve meaning exposure to the virus & antibodies in blood.
#MedTwitter #livertwitter
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To confirm, PCR test 4 RNA has to be done. Which he did. The viral load was 900,000 IU/L. So he goes to a Gastroenterologist, who checks the virus genotype (it was type 2) and puts him on the fantastic direct acting antiviral Sofosbuvir+velpatasvir for 3 months. All good?
No.
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He checks Google. Finds cirrhosis, liver cancer etc...gets alarmed and before completing the treatment, checks HCV at 2 months. Finds - anti HCV still +ve.
[note: anti HCV ELISA test STILL +ve]
Feels modern medicine doctor cheated him with expensive drugs.
Enter the dragon.
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#Phytochemical #BetaSitosterol Inhibits the Stomach Cancer Risk and Progression in Vitro and Vivo kylejnorton.blogspot.com/2019/12/phytoc… Image
#Herbal #ChasteTreeBerry May Cure Type I and II Diabetes, Revealed by Model Studies
curablesmoothies.blogspot.com/2018/10/chaste… Image
@ke7zum
ty4rts
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Young male, abnormal liver tests➡️#Immunity #booster #herbal #Siddha #medicine KabasuraKudineer. Study #published in local #newspaper 'showed' benefits [#ayush investigator hallucinations] & #police wer distributing tis
useless concoction on streets bit.ly/2GqypaE
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Three #herbal #drugs manufactured by two pharmas & one unlabelled analysed contained potential #organic, #inorganic toxins, including #industrial solvents, #arsenic. Poor manufacturing #practice, #regulation
Full report: docdro.id/XE70xuJ
3/3
We are 9 months into the #pandemic #india and still doing *BS* for #publichealth for #COVID19 #COVID #Covid_19 #Corona #coronavirus
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1/12
Separating the #men from the #boys
Here is a #PubMed #indexed, #Elsevier published #journal reporting '#exclusive' #treatment of #covid19 through #Ayurveda leading to full recovery in a #patient. Great #news right?! No. The #proof of the #pudding is in the eating! Spoons out
2/12
The #journal. Its legit, 'becoz' its publishd by #Elsevier. Journal ownd by World Ayurveda Foundation & Trans-Disciplinary Univ, #Bengaluru. 4mer, a 4-men 'world foundation'[bit.ly/3is0CdR], latter @TDUFRLHT founded @sampitroda, vettedby likes of @kiranshaw
3/12
The study - 43yr old #newyork #banker develops fever,cough durng peak #COVID season, 'PRESUMED' to be #coronavirus. Self #Quarantine at #home, phone calls #ayurvedic #Doctors at #Chennai, #india, offer☎️ treatmnt until fever break, therby reporting #covid19 cure via Ayurveda
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Our invited expert review on #Ayurvedic #herbals and #liver #toxicity. #herbal #medicine is NOT safe. Review on #herbs used in #Indian #traditional #medicine & adverse events is lacking in #published #Literature
We deep searched, compiled
Full paper: bit.ly/35WkCmr
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This #review is important for #ayush practitioners and those interested in opting for #alternative #therapies as #knowledge regarding potential #toxic components is the #right of every #patient and #moral #duty of the physician. This 👇 list show names of imp toxic herbs.
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We give #real #life #patient data supporting our review: such as this example which shows that #Ayurveda #drugs cause severe #chronic #liver #damage that can lead to #cirrhosis in the short term.
The implicated agent here is Holarrhena antidysenterica (Tellichery bark)
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#fraud #pseudoscience products such as these are available on @amazonIN and @amazon. This #ayurvedic product is advertised as #immunitybooster which is very wrong. @amazonIN must have moral values to its customers. Wrong descriptions, faked #science claims must be removed.
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#herbal ingredients and concentrations and their herb-herb interactions aren't studied, short/long #healthy benefit, side effects unknown. At risk #patients ➡️ organ failures.
➡️O.tenuiflorum has liver toxic eugenol
➡️A.indica(neem) in certain doses injure liver #Ayurveda
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➡️Glycyrrhiza (licorice) can cause muscle injury, #kidney #failure
➡️Tinospora cordifolia EASILY confused wit T. crispa latter cause liver failure
Products like these,@amazonIN & consumers beaware of what they sell & put in their bodies respectively.
#livertwitter #MedTwitter
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43yr chronic #alcohol user on Liv.52 #Herbal supplement for 1yr. Believes Liv52='hepatoprotective'. Consumes along with to cancel alcohol-toxicity. Diabetes uncontrolled on #Ayurveda. Comes with #jaundice, severe #headache, eyes 'bulged' 2 days, nasal discharge #livertwitter Image
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At admission, #seizures, uncontrolled, put on #ventilator. Deep jaundice, comatose. Investigations=acute on #chronic liver failure #aclf
#MRI Brain Part 1👇
Extensive hemorrhagic infarcts, almost all of anterior and mid #brain.
#medicine #MedTwitter #radiology Image
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MRI Brain Part 2👇
Both sides cortical venous thrombosis and anterior third of superior saggitsl sinus thrombus.
#imaging #stroke #NeuroTwitter #neurology #NeuroTwitterNetwork Image
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My invited talk on #pseudoscience for @IVMPodcasts by superhosts @pereirajoel, @YawnOkPlease. And boy! Did we we have a good chat. Listen on the tweet link below to hear us discuss #homeopathy, #Ayurveda private- #publichealth care and shocking real life patient experiences! Image
Link to direct talk here
ivmpodcasts.com/uncle-please-s…
From Ayurveda, to corporate practice, to big pharma pressure and fishing in murky waters! Real worrisome patient cases of fake #science and more!

#psuedoscience #MedTwitter #livertwitter #MedStudentTwitter #MedEd #ScienceTwitter
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Sorry to burst your bubble but NOT #Ayurvedic contribution

📌Quinine/Chloroquine
-Traditional-Peruvian
- identified by Jesuit Priests - isolated by Pelletier & Caventou (French Pharmacologists)
- isolated by Hans Andersag (German Scientist)
#MedTwitter #MedStudentTwitter
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📌Reserpine (old world blood pressure drug) - identified in Rauwolfia serpentina in South Asia by botanist Rumpf of Dutch East-India Company, isolation by Műller, Schlittler & Bein (Germany)

➡️ In India isolated earlier by Bose&Sen, modern scientists -for psychosis treatment
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📌Artemisin -from Traditional Chinese Medicine - isolated by modern medicine trained Chinese Pharmacologist Tu-Youyu

📌Metformin(diabetes drug) -from Galega officinalis[French Lilac], from European Folklore, isolated and improved -Muller&Reinwein,Germany & Leclerc,France
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Would you like some #greentea #extract #Herbal #supplements drink for #weightloss?
Good, you can enjoy your #weightlosstransformation 6-ft-under. Here is what #greentea extract does👉liver biopsy #marked regions = what is left of liver
#livertwitter #pathology #LiverPath ImageImage
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1. Check/declare your supplements.
2. Be wary of #nutrition and #weight management #quacks
3. Want #loseweightfast? - sweat it out, dont sweat your liver out.
4. #STAY away - multilevel marketing #FRAUDS
More 👉bit.ly/3komJo3
#MedTwitter #MedStudents #media #healthy
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Never forget the #sexist, #outrageous, #PANIC inducing #advertisement that #pseudoscience #Ayurveda and #Homeopathy uses as #fishing #bait on unassuming persons
NO '#faster way to lose weight' - its a #myth
#health #education #MedEd #publichealth #shortstories #girls ImageImage
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Would you agree that #Science today is mainly motivated by #politics… NOT #Health
Do you believe Cures exist?
Would you believe me if I told you that #Cancer, #Aids and #Diabetes, all diseases thought to be incurable, actually had Cures and have been proven to be cured?
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#Advice - #DONT drink #AloeVera or eat its #extracts
📌Very #liver #toxic, especially #cirrhosis
📌Possibly cause #Cancer
📌Damage #cell #DNA
See: bit.ly/2BXHcyy & bit.ly/31gINb4
👇patient #liverbiopsy - lightpink area all liver cells #DEAD
#livertwitter
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📌Check your #nutrition #supplements
📌Double check #famous #weightloss supplements
📌Aloe-Vera = #Herbal liver injury
📌Some benefit in #skincare #dermatology, nothingelse! bit.ly/33h0rOO
📌Always disclose to your #Doctor
#MedTwitter #MedStudentTwitter #Ayurveda
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Nobody follows this. Whole #plant is mostly used! #plantbased supplemental diets with whole Aloe-Vera for treating conditions like #diabetes and #jaundice leads to #catastrophe
#regulation = 0 in #India. All Aloe Vera treatments by #WhatsApp #Doctors Image
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Mind boggling case
13-year old girl
5 - 6 years on #ayurvedic treatment (shown below) for #Epilepsy. #Ayurveda promised no more #seizure.
Now jaundice, fluid in abdomen, dark pigmentation
#livertwitter #MedTwitter #MedEd #Science #ScienceMatters #pathology #MedicalStudent
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#liver #biopsy
Diagnosis: severe #alcohol #hepatitis and underlying #incomplete septal #cirrhosis (rare, #hepatoportal sclerosis) - 2 diseases in one liver! #radiology
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?
See retrieved #Ayurveda #drugs analysis results.
#pseudocience
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#Chemicals & #Toxicology analysis
#alcohol content - total 26.17 % v/v
#Arsenic content - total 2461.367 mg/kg
Single highest #Herbal #medicine - Arsenic was 1982.44 mg/kg
Two #ayurvedic drugs also contained #CLONAZEPAM - a modern medicine with anti seizure property😞
#ayush
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Forget #Coronil. Forget #Itolizumab.
There is a new player in town for #coronavirus and #COVID19 treatment. Introducing #Zingivir @Pankajakasthuri made from some herbs and mercuric and arsenic sulfide to fight the #pandemic. Sounds too good. But there are issues.
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They claim to have tested the product for safety in animal and cell lines. However, no data shown, only media mouthing. Half of the ingredients look like they make a good sambar chutney. But the drug manufacturer claim the following 👇#herbal #pseudoscience
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In a letter 😳😳😳 the CEO of the company asks the President of India @rashtrapatibhvn to start trials and clinical studies. This was in April 2020. Now fast forward to July 2020. Let's see how things went.
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#Ayurveda #Herbal #real #Tales
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Saw 64y old #patient with #jaundice and severe #itching all over #body (called #cholestatic #hepatitis) in OPD. Went to 3 other #hospitals prior, always evaluated for #liver and #bileduct #Cancer. Always cancer tests #Negative. Liverbiopsy👇 Image
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Biopsy shows severe #bile stagnation (#cholestasis) in liver #cells and bile-ducts with #inflammation and #swelling of livercells (#hepatocyte) - classical picture of cholestatichepatitis. CT of liver normal, #MRCP (to see bile ducts) - normal #livertwitter #pathology
CAUSE👇 Image
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Patient has #diabetes. Tired of #insulin #diet control. #Ayurvedic #physician advises - stop insulin, start #natural side effect free #treatment. Gives these #CAPSULE . After 6 months on #tablet - liver injury and symptoms start. #nutrition deprived, sugar controlled. #MedEd
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#Ayurvedic treatment of fatty #liver – real world evidence: A #Thread
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Overweight woman, early 40’s. Routine liver tests, mild enzyme abnormalities. Advised #ultrasound liver, showed grade 2 #fattyliver. GP advised vitaminE and #weightloss, review in 3mo
#livertwitter
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Patient and husband doubtful. Hears fatty liver disease can lead to #cirrhosis. Seeks advice from #Ayurvedic practitioner nearby #home since #Herbal #DRUGS = safe. Assures complete #cure through #Ayurveda. Prescribes multiple #medicines, advises almost all foods restriction.
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Lets look at medicines. #tablet APFIL. Packet mentions ‘for liver #diseases’. Which liver disease? There is #alcohol related, #hepatitis B/C, #NAFLD, primary biliary #cholangitis and more causes. Nine #herbs extract combo - clinical #evidence on safety and benefit ❌
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The irony of it all. Let me, an Allopathic (your term) correct you.
Cassia angustifolia NOT Cassia angusfifolia
Syzygium aromaticum NOT Fyzygium
Nigella sativa NOT fytiva
Boswellia serrata NOT Bofwellia sarraca
Pistacia lentiscus NOT lendiscus
#alternativefacts #Science Image
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But I'm OK with all the typos as long as my blood and mucus is purified through stool. In real medicine, its called Ulcerative Colitis and its pretty bad.
#herbal #mislabelling #Ayurvedic #Ayurveda #HerbalRemedies #livertwitter #medtwitter #India #coronavirus
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What we do find are enough heavy metals to defend our borders and plant based anthraquinones and sesquiterpenes enough to damage the #Liver This patient who consumed this and more, is advised to be listed for liver transplantation
#coronil #evidence #pseudoscience #ayush
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