Discover and read the best of Twitter Threads about #Talwarclass
Most recents (4)
This is a opposite #whatwerethedesignersthinking thread. The #Russians built a 5,000 tonne frigate that has more missiles than several larger contemporaries. It has 16 AShMs VLS (2 3S14 8 cell UKSK modules) and 32 Redut SAM VLS for 9M96E 40 km and 9M96E2 120 km missiles. #εpsilon 
My very scientific metric 115 tonne per missile (I know it is not scientific, just a fun metric). For eg. #Indian #Kolkataclass is 154 tonne per missile, #British #Daringclass is 168 tonne per missile. But, those are destroyers and have larger stores for longer deployments
It is funny that these frigates have the same peer armament as #IndianNavy MF-STAR destroyers with equally potent AD & AShMs at 2/3rds the displacement which limits endurance for this #Russian ship. The Gorkys are based on elongated Krivak/#Talwarclass/Admiral Grigorovich hulls..
My Indian followers,#Russians have benefitted a lot from you guys designing and purchasing #Russian origin gear for them to swoop in and buy some you guys paid to develop or revive. Exhibit A: Su-30MKI becomes Su-30SM. #εpsilon
There are two distinct #Su30 lines, #Indian #Su30MKI at Irkut plant and its derivatives and #Chinese #Su30MKK at KNAAPO plant and its derivatives. The Su-30SM, bought in nos is from MKI lineage. To be fair #Russianairforce also bought 18 Su-30M2s to keep KNAAPO busy before #Su35S
Exhibit B: MiG-29K operated by the #IndianNavy made sure that the #Russians can buy a few for themselves after the #Indian production run was done. Else, they might have stuck to upgrading their Su-33s in the long run.
#Whatwerethedesignersthinking when they designed the INS Kamorta as part of #Kamortaclass of ASW corvettes for the #IndianNavy . These vessels displace within 500 tonnes of #IndianNavy's own #Talwarclass #frigates and #Russian Admiral Grigorovich class #εpsilon
I have not seen a lot of coverage of these essentially frigate sized OPVs of the #IndianNavy and hence wanted to do a comparion. These vessels have no cruise missile VLS cells or any Air Defense VLS cells. She just has 2 RBU-6000s and a torpedo launcher for sub hunting.
So the #IndianNavy took an average of 8 years to build each one of them and 9 years after the lead ship was commissioned, she doesnt have a VDS (Variable Depth Sonar)/ TAS (Towed Array Sonar), essentially for what is officially an ASW corvette.
Okay, being neutral means covering both sides so here is a #PakistanNavy thread. They have bridged a big capability vs #IndianNavy in 2022. They inducted the first of the 4 #Type054AP frigates in Jan 2022 and 2nd in June 2022.
These sport 32 cells of HQ-16, Chinese derivatives of the naval Shtil-VL seen on Russian Admiral Grigorovich class frigates. They also sport 4 AShMs although the OG Type 054 can carry 8 AShMs.
Why are these a concern for India? These are a great 1 to 1 comparison to #IndianNavy 's #Talwarclass as they displace within 100-200 tonnes of each other
1. They have 32 SAM, medium range which is 8 more than the obsolete single arm launchers on 6 Talwar class in service carry.
1. They have 32 SAM, medium range which is 8 more than the obsolete single arm launchers on 6 Talwar class in service carry.
