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🇨🇦People have been asking me how long they have to submit a brief on #billc8 on conversion therapy. The short answer is I don't know but my best guess is at least 4 - 6 weeks. A longer answer requires an explanation of the process of passing a law in Canada. /2
Every bill goes through 3 readings in the House of Commons and Senate. First reading is the introduction of the Bill. It took place on Thursday. At second reading the bill is debated in principle. This could start as early as Oct 7 but probably won't for at least a week. /3
If you have concerns you want raised at second reading, write or call MPs. @GenderReportCA has a template letter you can use as a starting point. The bill is going to pass second reading. The Liberals can combine with the NDP and Bloc to pass it. /4
🇨🇦The Minister of Justice has reintroduced a bill of ban conversion therapy as #billc6. Text is not yet available but it is said to be the same as #billc8. The bill is only at first reading so debate was very short. @BardishKW spoke for the govt using the slogan @freetobeme_ca /2
Opposition leader @erinotoole emphasized his support for the LGBT community but spoke about the need for changes to the bill so it will not criminalize private conversations between parents, teachers etc. He did not specifically refer to therapy or gender identity issues /3
@r_garrison for the NDP supported the bill but said that his party would be looked for amendments to expand the restrictions on "conversion therapy" for gender identity. The Bloc and Green speakers supported the govt without adding anything new. /4
🇨🇦 Parliament resumes on the 23rd and #billc8 to bank conversion therapy is likely to be reintroduced. This is a thread of some of my previous threads on the matter for reference purposes. This was a detailed comment on the previous bill.
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Some comments on constitutional issues and comparison with U.S. law. /3
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Comments on a Senate bill which are still relevant to the current legislation.
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Why is everyone suddenly, overwhelmingly campaigning for Trans Rights? What's up? It's 2020 and more stuff happened; it's affecting child safeguarding, education, women's rights, LGB and Transgender organizations, gay "conversion therapy" bans, and elections. #cdnpoli #nbelection
Trans Rights Extremism Explained
What's the fuss, you ask? Long story in a nutshell, groups often have an extremist side; for the Transgender community, theirs are Trans Rights Activists (TRAs) aka Gender Identity Campaigners (GICs). Pro-Trans allies found a red flag.
What's the fuss, you ask? Long story in a nutshell, groups often have an extremist side; for the Transgender community, theirs are Trans Rights Activists (TRAs) aka Gender Identity Campaigners (GICs). Pro-Trans allies found a red flag.
But, Trans Rights is a good thing, isn't it? Yes. Of course. Trans health, Trans mental health, medicare, etc. Trans identified individuals—social media influencers—can explain best the risks (see @BuckAngel @MsBlaireWhite @ScottNewgent @Rose_Of_Dawn).
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Canadian Conservative leader @ErinOTooleMP has been waffling on conversion therapy legislation but is going to have to make a choice when #billc8 is reintroduced this fall. He has four choices. The first is to mount a full scale /2
Canadian Conservative leader @ErinOTooleMP has been waffling on conversion therapy legislation but is going to have to make a choice when #billc8 is reintroduced this fall. He has four choices. The first is to mount a full scale /2
opposition to the bill led by religious conservatives such as Derek Sloan. This wil fail. The Liberals, NDP and Bloc will combine to pass the bill unchanged and the Conservatives will be accused of being the party of homophobia and transphobia. The second is simply to support /3
the bill. This would divide his caucus and anger a significant part of his base. The third (which sounds like his preferred option) would be to try to get some exemptions for religious leaders. This will probably also not work and would still focus attention on this issue of /4
This is an article which, according to @jackturban MD describes "conversion therapy" which he says is illegal in 20 states (and in Canada if #BillC8 passes in its present form.)
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The article describes an approach for treatment of gender dysphoria in young boys which is highly non-intrusive. Only the parents attend the therapy sessions which focus on such things as improving relations with the father and male peers. Parents are advised not to prohibit /2
cross-gender behavior but to respond with "benign neglect" Parents are told that the therapy is not intended to prevent homosexuality, which is not a medical condition. The article states that the goal of the treatment is to reduce the need for the "long and difficult process /3
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The Centre for Gender and Sexual Health and Equity is calling for changes to #BillC8 to make the provisions on gender identity even more extensive and restrictive than they already are. The open letter claims that Bill C-8 /2
The Centre for Gender and Sexual Health and Equity is calling for changes to #BillC8 to make the provisions on gender identity even more extensive and restrictive than they already are. The open letter claims that Bill C-8 /2
and the existing Ontario legislation on conversion therapy exempt various practices at the former CAMH gender clinic which the authors consider to be conversion therapy. It proposes to add language referring to a patient's social or medical transition "as determined by the /3
patient themselves." This suggests that any exercise of clinical judgment to recommend against transition could be considered conversion therapy. The proposed amendments will probably not pass and would not make much difference as the simple existence of the law will be enough /4
Thread on what is wrong with Canada's #BillC8 on conversion therapy. The definitions in the bill are both vague and overbroad. The bill is bad policy and is open to constitutional challenge as a violation of both Section 2 and Section 7 of the Charter. /2
The bill equates sexual orientation, where there is a strong clinical consensus that conversion therapy is ineffective and harmful, with gender identity, where there is substantial and ongoing controversy. /3
The definition in #BillC8 is flawed even in the context of current gender theory. It talks about changing gender identity to cisgender without considering the possibility that gender identity could be non-binary, agender or any one of a growing list of possibilities. /3
Supporters of Canada's #BillC8 on conversion therapy say that similar bans have been upheld in the U.S. However the U.S. legislation is quite different. The California law which was upheld was limited to licensed therapists. /2 scholar.google.com/scholar_case?c…
The court found that the state has a broader latitude to regulate speech by therapists than to regulate speech in general. A ban on a particular form of therapy, which involved speech, did not violate the 1st amendment. Bill C8 is a federal criminal law which is not limited to /3
licensed professionals. It applies to everyone including clergy and private individuals. It is also much broader in scope and could prohibit legitimate forms of therapy such as therapy for juvenile sexual offenders. It could be challenged as a violation of Charter protected /4
How can we trust lawmakers to get *anything* right and avoid child harm on #BillC8 when they are so incredibly wrong about basic facts of sexual orientation and gender identity. Thread follows on what the literature says about immutability, an expressed part of the bill. 
The Bill clearly states that it is a myth that sexual orientation or gender identity can change. This statement is at least 13 years behind the medical literature, if not more. It is virtually academic consensus that orientation/attraction/behavior/identity can change.
I think the harms of this Bill will be grievous, although much more so in regard to gender identity than sexual orientation. Nevertheless, the following literature review will focus on orientation and attraction changes among sexual minorities.
