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Ok, time for the big one. What are appropriate rates for #gameaudio/#gamedev composers? How do you calculate what to charge? What is everyone ELSE charging? What do the numbers look like in AAA, midcore, indie, and so on? Let's deep-dive. #GameDevPaidMe
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Sources: 1. I'm gonna be referencing stats from the Game Audio Industry survey by @GameSound. This is wonderful, but is biased in that respondents are folks who are well-enmeshed in this community. They are likely more successful than the average.
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I'll also be sourcing convos w/ other studios, composers, etc. To protect privacy, I will not be providing names or identifying details. You'll kinda just need to trust me that these equal real people who replied. I don't want folks to get in trouble!
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#GameDevPaidMe Lab Zero Games -
I had 6-7 years experience
Hired as contract senior environment artist- 42 an hour
I asked for 50 and the female ( POC )producer tried to low ball me more with 40 an hour. I agreed to 42 an hour to start as contract. It gets so much worse.
I had 6-7 years experience
Hired as contract senior environment artist- 42 an hour
I asked for 50 and the female ( POC )producer tried to low ball me more with 40 an hour. I agreed to 42 an hour to start as contract. It gets so much worse.
They continued to pile on more work with more responsibilities ( like how I needed to now make a whole level for a new demo of the game ) So more work more hours without actually getting paid for those hours. ( The CEO at the time had no idea the producer did this )
Eventually, I asked for 90k as a LEAD environment artist full time and they low balled at 80k
Also I never signed a contract that stated what my new salary or position was. ALSO they didn't credit me as a lead environment artist on the game credits. ( I quit before launch )
Also I never signed a contract that stated what my new salary or position was. ALSO they didn't credit me as a lead environment artist on the game credits. ( I quit before launch )
#GameDevPaidMe Riot Games
I had 3 years xp prior
Mid level env artist- 80k
I didn't get a ANY raise for 3 years not even 5% to balance out inflation.
After 3 years I began asking for a raise because I had way more responsibilities and was managing other artists/ leading projects
I had 3 years xp prior
Mid level env artist- 80k
I didn't get a ANY raise for 3 years not even 5% to balance out inflation.
After 3 years I began asking for a raise because I had way more responsibilities and was managing other artists/ leading projects
so 6 years experience and Riot would not give me a raise. They gave me a terrible bonus of 2000? that I couldn't get until being there for another 3 years? I complained and my manager said it was a bad look and that I should be grateful for what I got
I believe that being aggressive about asking for better pay was one of the reasons they let me go. I was only asking for 15% raise. Which was again to balance out the 3 years of not getting a raise and also the fact that I was managing other artists and had more responsibilities
#GameDevPaidMe
2011: £21.5k /year
2012: 20,000 DKK /month (freelance)
2015: £25k /year + shares
2017: same job as ^^, but part time: £42k FTE
2019: £100k /year + options & nicer benefits
2011: £21.5k /year
2012: 20,000 DKK /month (freelance)
2015: £25k /year + shares
2017: same job as ^^, but part time: £42k FTE
2019: £100k /year + options & nicer benefits
all roles except the last in small studios where i was doing programming & some design. now i'm at a large company (joined via acquisition) doing just game design (as a lead)
have been in London the whole time, but some work was remote (can probably guess which from the currency)
have been in London the whole time, but some work was remote (can probably guess which from the currency)
also, a good amount of time in the middle where I was also doing some contracting, curation work, commissions, having a Patreon, etc - happy to talk about that if folks find it useful, although it was never the majority of my income.
