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@GroyperAbsent Pinning. This account will be dedicated purely to the continuation of the Moldbug thread from my first account. Ideally, this will translate to better account longevity so we don't lose the thread again. I'm reposting my intro because the thread wasn't properly @'ing you guys! 
@GroyperAbsent I'll start by reposting some classics from the first thread, to give people (especially newcomers) a feel for what it's like and to present a chance for them to retweet/like posts that disappeared with the old thread (once again, this is reposted so your @'s get mentioned).
@GroyperAbsent So, for the second time, I'll start @'ing people!
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Thread 5/6. Everyone's favourite.
5. Legit ways of dissent?
5. Legit ways of dissent?
#NRx actually gets this right. Hobbes on the Left, Filmer on the Right. Both are 'Passive Obedience' advocates and so is NRx.
You can fall into a dialectical trap if you like, and fight Marxism in the streets by being a TOOL OF MARXISM.
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
You can fall into a dialectical trap if you like, and fight Marxism in the streets by being a TOOL OF MARXISM.
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
OR, you can start to think and plan, rationally, like Christians.
Continuing the discussion of the last few tweet storms, it is clear that first principles need to be addressed:
1. what are the powers of legitimate, non-tyrannical government with regards to public health measure
2. how are such decisions rationally made in cost - benefits ...
1. what are the powers of legitimate, non-tyrannical government with regards to public health measure
2. how are such decisions rationally made in cost - benefits ...
3. is the present government of the states or FedGov legitimate? Is it tyrannising in any way?
4. for a legitimate or non-legitimate government, what if any limit is their over its power to interfere with domestic affairs politically or economically?
5. legit ways of dissent?
4. for a legitimate or non-legitimate government, what if any limit is their over its power to interfere with domestic affairs politically or economically?
5. legit ways of dissent?
Specifically, which of these are allowed morally and politically, and which if any are effective:
- non-collaboration and non-resistance
- non-collaboration with resistance
- 'protesting' individually or verbally
- mass line of protesting
- armed resistance ('rebellion')
- non-collaboration and non-resistance
- non-collaboration with resistance
- 'protesting' individually or verbally
- mass line of protesting
- armed resistance ('rebellion')
One more thought for the morning. My family is all working class, but I’m middle class because of the educational aspirations instilled in my parents by their parents. When I talk about ‘the Hogwarts experience’, I know what I’m talking about: I got sent to private school.
I have a GCSE in Latin and some barely resolved dissociative trauma to show for it. When I say ‘I’m a Ravenclaw’, I mean I was literally out in one of four houses, the one whose colour was blue, whose animal was a bird (swift), and whose reputation was for being swatty.
When I talk about the ideological force exerted by Oxbridge on our national character, a sort of educational Mythos in relation to which everything else is defined, either through affinity or in opposition, ‘the Hogwarts experience’ is the easiest way to encapsulate it.
About protests, I have a chip on my shoulder as a 'passive obedience' guy. *All* protests are illegal imo, unless against invalid Civil Authority (a usurper or fraudulent government). That goes for any possible 'side' of politics...
To take to the streets against duly constituted government is just wrong. Un-Christian. Yes, I know that makes me a Tory and not a Whig -- but I find the presumption that Whiggery is always Correctory tiresome.#NRx
What part of Civil Obedience (Passive, in the face of Evil) and the Non-Resistance Doctrine do you fail to understand? Hobbes, Filmer, John Taylor of Caroline, George Fitzhugh -- even the Connecticut Farmer (Samuel Seabury), later Episcopal Bishop -- got this right.
1/ I'm going to engage in meandering reflections throughout the day on basic rw political theories about the US, and modernity. They're numbered for your convenience, so you can ignore them if you want to (and also for organization)
2/ The immediate impetus is this thread from ZHP, a pithy and hard-hitting summary of things Moldbug ~ Land ~ SM ~ #NRx have been saying for 13 years
3/ Simplest way of pinpointing my disagreement with ZHP/Moldbug: I agree with large parts of the analysis on the trajectory of the modern west, but continue to think electoral politics is important and consequential
