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A #thread about some #myths of #languages and #scripts (of #India): 🧵(I wrote in Kannada earlier)
Every language including #Sanskrit comes in spoken form first & later in written form. Most languages are dated by the earliest time when a written record for them is found. 1/17
#Samskrta can be considered an exception, where we have record of the spoken word before we see its written form. This is because the #Vedas were preserved in a speech form for millennia before being written down. In case of other languages, this is not so. 2/17
For ex: First written record of #Kannada date to 2-3rd C CE. But this does not prove Kannada did'nt exist prior to 2nd CE. It is better to inferwriting was introduced/adapted to Kannada then. In fact we see how the script used to write Prakrit in as adapted to write Kannada 3/17
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#ಭಾಷೆ , #ಲಿಪಿ ಇತ್ಯಾದಿ ಗಳಬಗ್ಗೆ ಒಂದು ಸರಳಿಃ🧵
#ಸಂಸ್ಕೃತ ವೊಂದೇ ಏಕೆ, ಯಾವ ಭಾಷೆಗೂ ಮೊದಲು ಲಿಪಿಯಿರಲಿಲ್ಲ(ಇರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ)-ಏಕೆಂದರೆ ಮಾತು ಮೊದಲು ಬರೆಹ ನಂತರ. #ಕನ್ನಡ ದ ಮೊದಲ ದಾಖಲೆ ಸಿಕ್ಕಿರುವುದು ಸಾಮಾನ್ಯಶಕ 2-3 ನೇ ಶತಮಾನದಲ್ಲಿ. ಅದಕ್ಕೆ ಮೊದಲು ಕನ್ನಡ ಇರಲೇ ಇಲ್ಲವೆಂದು ತಿಳಿಯೋಣವೇ? ಹಾಗೆ ನಿರ್ಧರಿಸುವುದು ತಪ್ಪಾಗುತ್ತದೆ. 1/n
3 ನೇ ಶತಮಾನದಲ್ಲಿ ಬರವಣಿಗೆಗೆ ಕನ್ನಡವನ್ನು ಒಳಪಡಿಸಿದರು ಎನ್ನುವುದು ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಸರಿಯಾಗಬಹುದಾದ ಊಹೆ.
ಸಂಸ್ಕೃತಕ್ಕೂ ಹಾಗೇ. ಲಿಪಿಯಿಲ್ಲದ ಕಾಲ ಒಂದಿತ್ತು. ಒಂದು ಕಾಲದಲ್ಲಿ ಬರೆಹದ ಶಕ್ತಿಯನ್ನರಿತ ಮೇಲೆ ಬರೆವಣಿಗೆ ಬಂದಿತು. ಅದರ ನಂತರವೂ ಮೌಖಿಕ ಪರಂಪರೆಯೂ ಜೊತೆಗೇ ಮುಂದುವರೆಯಿತು. ಮುದ್ರಣ ಬರುವವರೆಗೆ ಇದಕ್ಕಿದ್ದ ಹೆಚ್ಚಾಯ ಅರಿತಿದ್ದೇವೆ. 2/n
ಪಾಣಿನಿಯ ಕಾಲಕ್ಕಾಗಲೆ ಲಿಪಿ ಇತ್ತು ಎಂಬುದು ನಿರ್ವಿವಾದ. ಆಸಕ್ತರು ವಾಸುದೇವ ಶರಣ ಅಗ್ರವಾಲ ಅವರ India as known to #Panini ಪುಸ್ತಕವನ್ನು ಓದಬಹುದು. ವ್ಯಾಸ ವಾಲ್ಮೀಕಿಯರು ಬರಹವನ್ನು ಪ್ರಸ್ತಾಪ ಮಾಡಿಲ್ಲ -ಅವರು ಪಾಣಿನಿಗೂ ಹಿಂದಿನವರಾದ್ದರಿಂದ ಅವರ ಕಾಲದಲ್ಲಿ ಬರವಣಿಗೆ ರೂಢಿಗೆ ಬಂದಿಲ್ಲದಿದ್ದಿರಬಹುದೆಂಬ ಊಹೆಯನ್ನು ನಾವು ಮಾಡಬಹುದು. 3/n
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CLAIM: #Rama is not known/ worshipped in Tamil Nadu (#Jothimani Congress MP)

REALITY: Incorrect, likely untrue and deliberate disinformation. Here is why👇

Thread on references to rāma/#rAmAyaNa in Tamil literature till 1000 CE prior to kamban (12-13th C CE)

#TamilNadu #Tamil
Puṟanāṉūṟu (5th C CE or earlier)
notes rAma, sIta & monkeys (vAnara). It refers to sIta’s abduction by the rAkShasa & her dropping jewels

கடுந்தெறல் இராமன் உடன்புணர் சீதையை
வலித்தகை அரக்கன் வெளவிய ஞான்றை
நிலஞ்சேர் மதர் அணி கண்ட குரங்கின்
செம்முகப் பெருங்கிளை

#puRanAnURu 378
aganaṉūṟu refers to the victorious rAma in dhanuShkOTi, studying vedas under a banyan tree

வென் வேற் கவுரியர் தொல் முது கோடி
முழங்கு இரும் பௌவம் இரங்கும் முன் துறை,
வெல்போர் இராமன் அரு மறைக்கு அவித்த     15
பல் வீழ் ஆலம் போல,
ஒலி அவிந்தன்று, இவ் அழுங்கல் ஊரே.

#aganAnURu 70
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Of the approximately lakh (100,000) #inscriptions found in India, 85,000 are in tamiZ & kannaDa. Let that sink in

These were written in the respective #tamiz and #kannaDa scripts (as they were through the 2000 year history). Not in #Nagari variants.

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Many Southeast Asian scripts are derived from #kadamba-pallava script, the early kannaDa-Telugu script. This South Indian script had international reach

Nagari/ other North Indian scripts clearly did not have the reach or prestige outside India as the kadamba-pallava script

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#Nandinagari was used mainly in karNATaka for #samskRta inscriptions and writing, “in addition” to kannaDa script. Bulk of samskRta manuscripts are in kannaDa script. Same with samskRta inscriptions.

#tigaLAri script has also been used on some inscriptions and manuscripts

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Whatever would we have done without the Mughals!

Ahem! These early references to asafoetida/ ಇಂಗು/ಹಿಂಗು iṅgu/ hiṅgu in kannaDa literature surely don’t matter. They must all be post-Mughal interpolations! But humour me anyway please

#asafoetida #ingu #hingu #kannaDa #pre_16thC Image
Working back (ignore kanakadāsa ಮೋಹನತರಂಗಿಣಿ mōhanataraṅgiṇi- mid-16th C

ಸಂಡಗೆಯಿಂಗು ಕಡಲೆವಿಟ್ಟಿರಿಸಿದ
saṇḍageyiṅgu kaḍaleviṭṭirisida

or sūpaśāstra from very early 16th C

ಬಡಿಸಲೊಗ್ಗರಣೆಯಿಂಗಿನ ಕಂಪು
baḍisaloggaraṇeyiṅgina kampu

#asafoetida #ingu #hingu #kannaDa #pre_16thC
And for some comic relief from the permanent jester that is #GoogleTranslate🤪🤭

They are ever so clever- getting straight to the point eg! They sure know what Sringara rasa and ಮೋಹನತರಂಗಿಣಿ mōhanataraṅgiṇi are all about at the end of the day 😂

@Google @GoogleIndia @GoogleAI Image
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How the myth started..

Now reading the book by @bennedose Image
This is how the #ThaparHabibClan and their more famous international counterparts take into advantage most gullible people who read their books , who do not know a word of #Samskrta , forget knowing anything from #RgVeda!

#justsaying Image
This is exactly how the #ThaparHabibClan has perpetuated a myth of "repeated mention of killing of Dasyus in the #RgVeda".

I showed in another article how dubious was that by similar means. Image
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