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Feb 6, 2021, 32 tweets

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A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*

(it's amazing there are enough people to include in a list like this 🤷‍♂️)

Sunetra Gupta

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Nic Lewis

~0.12% of Sweden has now died of COVID-19:
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-da…
covid19.who.int

judithcurry.com/2020/06/28/the…

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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Michael Levitt

archive.is/3IpJF

4/K

Re: "under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Jay Bhattarcharya
Eran Bendavid

~0.14% of the USA has now died of COVID-19:
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-da…
covid19.who.int/region/amro/co…

archive.is/QLmJt#selectio…

5/K

Re: "under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Daniel Erickson
Artin Massihi

~0.11% of California and ~0.23% of New York (state) have died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

aier.org/article/open-u…

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Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

John Ioannidis

(at least 3 times)

7/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Toby Young

~0.17% of the population has now died of COVID-19:
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

archive.is/FKgQ6
archive.is/ZmbP1#selectio…
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rs…

archive.is/NBcxM#selectio…

8/K

Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Vinay Prasad
(@VPrasadMDMPH)

9/K

Re: "A list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

James Todaro
(@JamesTodaroMD)




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Re: "list of those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Johan Giesecke

[Sweden: part 2/K
UK: 7/K]

web.archive.org/web/2021020804…



13:54 - 15:02 :

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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Carl Heneghan

archive.is/nxTW8


>0.12% of Spain died of COVID-19
covid19.who.int/region/euro/co…

archive.is/KCVZ1

archive.is/G3J5X

12/K

As further context:

1) Herd immunity prevents one from getting near 100% of the population infected, making the claims of those on this thread even worse.

2) COVID-19 deaths really are COVID-19 deaths:


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Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Ivor Cummins
(@FatEmperor)

>0.11% of Sweden died of COVID-19
(so PFR > 0.11% ; IFR >> PFR)
archive.is/5tz5t#selectio…
covid19.who.int/region/euro/co…



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Re: "those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Avik Roy
(@Avik)

>0.17% of Los Angeles (LA) County died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map



web.archive.org/web/2021020905…

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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Stephen Miller
(of @aier, who is behind the Great Barrington Declaration @gbdeclaration; see part 5/K)

>0.10% of the regions circled in red died of COVID-19
archive.is/Wfbaf

aier.org/article/the-us…

16/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Justin Hart
(of the @Rational_Ground blog)

≥0.15% of the UK, Belgium, Czechia, Slovenia, Italy, etc., died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…



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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Alex Berenson
(@AlexBerenson)

[what Dr. Fauci actually said:
5:50 - 7:02 of ]

>0.13% of the USA died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…

18/K

Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Michael Yeadon
(via John Ioannidis in part 6K)

>0.15% of the UK died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…
covid19.who.int/region/euro/co…

archive.is/E9ihn#selectio…

from 16:35 of

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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Swiss Policy Research
Gina Loudon of "Just the News"
(@RealDrGina, @JustTheNews)

≥0.15% of the UK, Belgium, etc., died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…



web.archive.org/web/2020070611…

20/K

Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Clare Craig
@ClareCraigPath

(she deletes her tweets: archive.is/sWs5l#selectio…)



≥0.15% of the UK died of COVID-19
web.archive.org/web/2021021007…

google.com/search?rlz=1C1…

web.archive.org/web/2021021017…

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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Scott Atlas

>0.22% of New York state and >0.32% of New York City died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid…



web.archive.org/web/2021010608…

22/K

So that's at least 23 people/groups who greatly under-estimated COVID-19's fatality rate:

- 5 associated with Stanford Univer.
(Levitt, Bhattacharya, Bendavid, Ioannidis, Atlas)

- 3 associated with the Great Barrington Declaration
(Gupta, Bhattacharya, AIER in 5/K + 15/K)

23/K

Re: "so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Karol Sikora
(@ProfKarolSikora)

[via Sunetra Gupta from 1/K]

England: >1.8 in 1000 died of COVID-19
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths…

24/K

Of the the 24 people/groups listed above, 6 were advisors to the vaccine denialist group PANDA:

Gupta, Levitt, Bhattacharya, Yeadon, Atlas, Sikora




archive.is/d0LRP#selectio…


archive.is/JT4ll

25/K

To wrap up:

~0.5% - ~2% of infected people died in the regions mentioned in the above list. That's way more dangerous than seasonal flu. And that's around an order of magnitude more than was claimed by those in this thread.



26/K

Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Freddie Sayers
Tom Chivers (@TomChivers)

>0.14% of the USA died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

>128,000 UK COVID-19 deaths
coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths



27/K

Re: "require more people be infected than actually exist"

Barbara Ferrer
(relying on work co-authored by part 4/K's Bhattacharya + Bendavid: jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/…)

>0.19% of L. A. County died of COVID-19
coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

from 36:33 :

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Re: "those who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist*"

Thomas Massie

>1.4 people per 1000 died of COVID-19 in the USA
coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality



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Re: "they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Federico Lois

>0.12% of Sweden died of COVID-19
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-da…
coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality



[medrxiv.org/content/10.110…]

30/K

Re: "who so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Levan Djaparidze
[medrxiv.org/content/10.110…]

>0.27% of Bueno Aires, Argentina died of COVID-19
buenosaires.gob.ar/coronavirus/da…

31/K

Re: "so under-estimated the fatality rate of COVID-19, that they *require more people be infected than actually exist.*"

Abir Ballan
(of PANDA [@PanData19]; via Carl Heneghan in part 11/K)

>0.12% of Spain died of COVID-19



Re: "Clare Craig
@ClareCraigPath
(she deletes her tweets: archive.is/sWs5l#selectio…)"

found it:


h/t to @_johnbye for explaining how to find archived tweets using the Wayback Machine / web archive:

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