ED STETZER: As a Christian + a scientist, do you think there's any basis...to claim a religious exemption from [COVID] vaccines?
FRANCIS COLLINS: I have trouble seeing what it would be...I can't see how that fits together in some sort of rational argument.
"Kids need to be in school. The consequences of missing out on that personal interaction...are really significant. Those of us who are adults + are missing our church gathering, we're suffering too, but if I have to make a priority, getting those kids in school is even higher."
"If churches are determined to meet, what can they do...well, certainly continuing to insist on mask wearing for everybody, vaxed or unvaxed...Families who are arriving together + have been unmasked around each other all day need not be separated [by 6 feet], but others should."
Cont'd quote: "Probably the most dangerous part of this is not what happens during the service, it's what happens right after...I haven't had the chance to wrap my arms around this person...Your desire for human contact overtakes your sense of what might be safe."
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WPC breaking a little news: Collins says we need 95% vaccination to beat the virus. Back in June he told The Atlantic 70-85%. theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/…
He gives that number right after saying: "That is not just about the U.S. That's about the country and the globe."
To his credit, Ed asks why Christians should trust the CDC if the CDC says men can give birth. Collins' answer is...super rambly, at one point says if people are worried about anything more than COVID, they're "unmoored from an appreciation that truth is what really matters."
Ed, realizing just how bad Collins just whiffed, asks the question again. Collins punts, "I'm not the director of the CDC." Will only go so far to as to say he is "worried" that their credibility "gets all muddied over with some of these other issues that are very controversial."
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