Thread by @RabbiHarvey

There is a direct line from the Gospels to the Gas Chambers. This #thread will be Part 1 in a series to show the dangers of the anti-Jewish rhetoric, dangers of theory put into practice, and why Jews have such PTSD when confronted with proselytizing and antisemitism. #Threads

@profunditly @jasonrpublic That “Christ” (Greek for Messiah) is supposed to forgive sins or bring salvation is a Christian, not Jewish, idea – and it is one that redefines the Messiah’s agenda away from what Jews intended when they originated this concept

@profunditly @jasonrpublic representation of the nation.”44 In other words, the “suffering servant” is most likely the nation of Israel, not a specific person. Some rabbinic texts do suggest the servant is a messianic figure, but most scholars believe this to be unlikely...

@profunditly @jasonrpublic ...as “nowhere else does Deutero-Isaiah refer to the Messiah, and the absence of a belief in an individual Messiah is one of the hallmarks of Deutero-Isaiah’s outlook (in contrast to that of First Isaiah).”

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Some commentators believe the character refers to later
prophets such as Jeremiah, but the rabbis of the Talmud identified the suffering servant as Moses...

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Within the Jewish historical context, the answer is no. As Robert Alter states, “Virtually no serious scholars today see this as a prediction of the Passion, but it certainly provided a theological template for interpreting the death of Jesus.”

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Jews do not see the context of the Isaiah texts with having to do with Jesus at all but rather see the identity of the servant as the collective Israel and that “the nations are stunned that such an insignificant and lowly group turns out to have been so important to the divine.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Some thought this referred to Cyrus. But it's definitely not Jesus.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Any idea that people are so sinful that god personally must die for them is not Jewish. We don’t hold that we’ve all inherited some original Sin and need to offer satisfaction for it, so none of this is of any interest to us.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic These are the things the Gospel writers built their character of Jesus around, using Jewish motifs, two generations after Jesus died.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic The Gospel writers didn't know Jesus, they heard stories here and there, but they had to build him as a motif to work. They based his life on Moses, had him quote Jeremiah, ripped into Jewish texts to make them "point" to him.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic There has never been a "son of God" in Judaism. That's Greek mythology. And Jesus' short term prophecies did not come true. He prophesized the kingdom of heaven to come soon. It didn't. He failed. Y'all had to create a "spiritual apocalypse" to justify it.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic There has never been an idea of a "second coming" either. Even the Ben Josef/Ben David were DIFFERENT people in those theories.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic The issues of “blame” for Jesus’ death first arose in the 60s, as Christians became increasingly fearful of Rome. This made it advantageous for Christians to protect themselves by shifting blame for Jesus’ death away from Rome and onto the Jews (rebels against Rome).

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Thereby Rome and Christians would seem allied, with the Jews thought their common enemy. Thus did a Jew put to death by Rome become a “Christian” put to death by ”Jews.”

@profunditly @jasonrpublic The names of the Gospels are pseudapigrapha, names that are those of Jesus' disciples. The actual writers were not eye-witness accounts. The entire story is ahistorical, so much so that it's laughable. Even the synoptics don't agree on things.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic You should ask Jews what Jewish texts mean. Quit with the supersessionsim and replacement theology. The idea that Christians know Jewish texts better than Jews is an arrogance that is unforgiveable.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic

@profunditly @jasonrpublic (Christ is the Greek word for “annointed one), is simply a semantic tactic to not realize you have indeed converted to another religion.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Moreover, there has never been in the history of Biblical or rabbinic Judaism the idea that the Jewish God would or could impregnate a human woman, and that God’s “son” would be a God/Human hybrid, but also representing the anthropomorphic God as well.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic These ideas ring more as pagan mythology, popular in the 1st century CE in the Roman-occupied Judea.
As for history, Judaism and Christianity existed side-by-side as a hybrid entity, somewhat like the many denominations of Judaism in America today, until the 5th century CE,

@profunditly @jasonrpublic when the Church and Jewish rabbinical orthodoxy were established, thus drawing the fine line between the two religions. Messianics attempt to relive those moments between the 2nd and 5th century CE when Judaism and early Christianity were more cohesive.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic However, this “hybrid” identity, for all the reasons above, was abandoned by both Jews and Christians as it was a temporary and unsustainable undertaking.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Messianic revisionist thinking

@profunditly @jasonrpublic Also, Jesus predicted the "last days" in his lifetime. He was wrong.

@profunditly @jasonrpublic These were real christians, real churches, doing horrible horrible things in the name of Jesus. You cannot deny it or minimize it or erase it.

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