Thread by @DeepReadDan

Deep Read:Elon Musk
I've never interacted with him but the tools I have allow a greater insight into him than Isaacson. Elon's mind has 100s of unique capabilities, most of which he actually rarely displays. Let's take a dive into this mysterious mystagogue and sentient Hermit

Here's what you probably don't know about his natural self (which he rarely displays since he's addicted to chronic stress):
Expert at vicarious learning, he's extremely good at seeing how other people succeed or fail
Natural born pacifist - hates war and a society with more Elon's wouldn't have war
Elucidative: Revelatory by nature but is often the exact opposite (materialistically discordant due to chronic stress which has made it hard for him to connect to all forms of spirituality)
Holistic thinker: Better at seeing the birds eye view at 30000 feet but has trained himself to see all the little tiny details
Fantastic at creating all kinds of theoretical models
Would be into hermeticism if he discovered anything remotely spiritual
Has an emperor has no clothes temperament (will explain later the relationship with his dad)
Deep. Sees things as interconnected hence why he's able to switch fields so well. Devising. Multilayered. Laser focused. Premeditative. Cares about spirit of the law over letter of the law. Has a win-win attitude (not zero-sum game).

Basics:
MBTI classic INTJ. Enneagram obviously 5w4. DISC: Strong D

O - Very High - normally over 90th percentile
C - Moderately high - 60-80th percentile
E - Moderate to moderately low 40-55th percentile
A - Very, very low - 0-10th percentile
N - Somewhat high - 70-85th percentile

Archetypes: Hermit auxiliary Hero challenger Rebel shadow Explorer. He spends more time in his shadow (Explorer) than he does in him main archetype!

Shadow traits:
These traits are more familiar to him right now as he's built multiple technology companies. Those who interact with him are more likely to see these traits:
1. Gadgets & Gizmos: He has a propensity to understand how things work and how things could be put together. Good with altering physical substances
2. Highly presumptuous - arrogance can be a serious downfall for him. The more stressed he gets the more arrogant/proud he becomes. He needs to work on that
3. 'What difference does it make' attitude - he's always challenging things, being skeptical and asking about the 'how' of things when in his self-actualized self he's be more philosophical and ask the 'why' of things
4. Autistic traits: Highly visual-spatial, systems thinking, strong quantitative skills, low empathizing skills, broad thinking (strong ability to memorize facts and crystalized thinking), left-brained, disconnection of human qualities, and strong strategic thinking.
5. Strong connection to elements, the environment at large, the desire and motivation to explore. Can be very instinctual at this stage, experiences sudden impulses for pyromania, need to ride in fast moving objects, needs cool expensive toys

Complexes:
He's on the psychological border between the need for consistency (how he's able to steadily work 80-120 hours a week) and novelty (the desire to do and see something new everyday).
Paradoxes: Very matter of fact (just says how it is and can make things boring) yet very high in openness in his communication as well (brings something up that's either humorous, absurd, or strikingly interesting). So bounces back from being extremely boring to extremely interesting. Very removed from Romanticism (as a human emotion) and tries to compensate in interesting ways. Cares more about destination than the journey. Very imaginative. When it comes to his personal life he's not a disciplinarian and lacks justice in personal doings. However he can be very latitudinarian at times. Highly stoic yet very creative!

His dad is an Emperor auxiliary Scholar challenger Star shadow Siren. Much more strict, stronger propensity for anger. Much, much less intuitive. Lower on abstract thinking. Strong desire for control and order. Very masculine psychology. Socially much more dominant. Has more of a traditional Chad/Jock psychology. Elon is much more of a scientist and often challenged his authority thus the 'Emperor has no clothes'.

The reason they're so close is because they share almost all of the same traits. He's higher IQ and naturally more introverted and somewhat less agreeable but besides that Elon 'should' be more similar to his mother in how he processes his world. She is a Revelator (Trickster) auxiliary Priestess challenger Warrior shadow Orphan. So all of her archetypes are the extraverted (and introverted) versions of his. The more Elon self-develops the more similar he'll be to her. There's strong reasons why they're close.

Tosca is much more similar to her Errol. She's an Empress auxiliary Scribe. Kimball is more similar to Mae. He's a Hero auxiliary Hermit (like Elon but more sociable/extraverted/higher EQ and not quite as theoretical). Kimball also has many of the qualities that Elon should have as he develops his mystagogue side that goes beyond just World Building: Archetypical knowledge, fluid intelligence, interconnectivity, caring about meaning, developing an inner-world that's human centric, being forewarning, being anti-image conscious, and having a stronger connection to paradoxical thinking over binary thinking.

Relationships 1: Justine
Justine is a Scribe auxiliary Caregiver challenger Magician (Seer), shadow Illuminator.
She wasn't nearly agreeable enough for him and she actually is temperamentally quite masculine and was not OK not being the one in control. She also was too conscientious, OCD, nitpicky, and detail focused for Elon's tastes. Very serious. Gave puritan vibes. Self-righteous. Monotonous. Naturally corporate. High level of gravity (took things heavily). Strong routine. Great at writing things down and finishing tasks. She's rather boring of a person. Practical. Standard. Very much here and now. Not very good at visionary thinking. Elon forced her to connect to her challenger and shadow which she did not like. Probably his worst (as in least fun) relationship

Relationships 2: Tallulah

She's the EXACT opposite of Justine. You'd have a hard time finding someone that different from her and this is exactly why Elon was so enamored by her.
Archetypes: Illuminator auxiliary Seer (Magician) challenger Caregiver shadow Scribe
She's zany, effulgent, witchy, loves the idea of having a 'kindred spirit' and serendipities. Much more effervescent. Altruistic. More willing to let the river run its course. Much more chaotic and all over the place than Justine though. Manic. Playful. Bad with time. Good at understanding random sounds that people make (being able to recite random words from exotic languages). Very animated. High degree of empathy. Good story teller. Likes plants. Eventually fell apart as she's way to right-brained for Elon (and immature, childlike, juvenile, uncertain, and directionless).

However when it comes to raw attraction this relationship might be the best in his lifetime. They had the right masculine/feminine polarity but eventually she got too unstable, got board, wanted to do something entirely new (she's even higher on openness to experience than Elon is - Elon loves women who're insanely high after his failed relationship with Justine who's very low on Openness). To prove that she's opposites here's there OCEAN scores

O - Tallulah 85th-100th Justine 0-15th
C - Tallulah 25-50th Justine 90th-100th
E - Tallulah 65-90th Justine 25-40th
A Tallulah 75-95th Justine 15-30th
N Tallulah 80-95th Justine 20-35th

Justine ISTJ Enneagram 6w5 DISC C Tallulah ENFP Enneagram 7 DISC I. Complete opposite archetypes (Scribe vs Illuminator)

Amber Heard
Lover auxiliary Fae challenger Everywoman shadow Judge. This really was just a fling. But for Amber she's peak emotionality, pathos over logos, very irrational, very imaginative. very high in openness (likely 95-100th percentile), low conscientiousness (likely 0-10th percentile), very romantic (drawn to his utter non-romanticism), hyper-feminine, easily influenced, subjective vibes over objective facts, curved, pliant thinking, very fluid, sees the world through a very mysterious lens, chaotic, disruptive. When she's more stressed she seems and acts a lot more like Justine (same with Tallulah - eventually under periods of duress they reminded Elon of his X which made him much less attracted to them). Hates judgmental people but can be highly judgmental of others in terms of herself. Moderate agreaableness (40-60th percentile). Sky high neuroticism (90-100th percentile). Classic case of crazy-hot matrix. Mesmerizing and has a strong victim mindset. Dependent. Uncertain. Good at ideation.

Now Grimes
Melodist auxiliary Illuminator challenger Scribe shadow Empress. So her main is essentially the more introverted, much more cerebral, and philosophic (and Amber isn't stupid) version of the Lover. Her auxiliary archetype is the same as Tallulah. Her challenger is the same as Justine. Her shadow is the same as Elon's sister. This women is the exact opposite of Tosca. Exact opposite! Grimes is very free spirited, see things very solipsistically, tries very hard to be rational but can still be prone to magical thinking, good at multiplicity (creating ideas out of now where that are both interesting and multilayered), is extraordinarily creative, can be a bit of a smart alec, bohemian, temperamental, and a bit all over the place like many of Elon's recent love interests.

O again super high (95-100th percentile)
C not very high (15-30th percentile) but strives very hard to be high
E Lower - (20-40th percentile)
A naturally it's like 75-90th percentile but under any amount of stress it drops to like 0-10th percentile
N Crazy high (95-100th percentile).

INFP tries to be more INTP. Enneagram 4w5. DISC doesn't make sense for her due to her overwhelming desire to have abstract proclivities and her strong intuition.

It's clear that Elon loves women who are extremely feminine, chaotic, immature, youthful, high on openness to experience, and sky high on neuroticism. What's a man like Elon supposed to do?

1. Elon needs to connect to his dominant archetype of the Hermit. Get interested in esoteric, multidimensional, spiritual, and mysterious phenomenon. He's do really well in that regard. Needs more alone time. Needs more time to meditate and to think about ETHICS. Less time with toys, physical technologies, or gadgets. The question is will he every take a break to pause and do this? Will he ever get over his addiction to stress that's he's had is entire life which is the sole cause of his autistic like shadow traits. We'll see.
2. Continue his close relationship with his family members especially his mother and his brother. The more healthy Elon is the more similar he will be to Kimball and his mother. He needs more vacation time with them. Hopefully he'll understand that human relationships sometimes need to take precedence.
3. Understant that X is the collective unconscious of humanity. Here he's able to learn great truths about the social sciences and how people think. He needs to spend more time mentalizing as opposed to systemizing. He has many teams of engineers that can do his work of systemizing. Only he can learn to mentalize though. Part of that is spending time on X
4. Learn to hone in on his best traits associated with his Hermit archetype and be attractive to women through those traits and to not let them drag him down. His relationships (especially Justine and Amber) reinforced more shadow traits and eventually brought him down and made him less masculine. Interact with others that praise your masculinity and understand the complexity of who you are.

In the end I believe that very few people know the real Elon Musk. I don't even know if he knows the real Elon musk. One reason why he might want to build and explore is to find himself. Mars represents his Shadow. His middle finger to the establishment media represents his Rebel. His ability to take humanity to new heights represents his Hero. But deep down Elon must realize the great and profound philosophical, ethical, moral, and scientific truths that have yet to be discovered by his Hermit archetype. There's an inner child that has been taken away by an Emperor without any clothes. As soon as he finds that boy Elon will be greater than ever!