Thread by @TruueDiscipline

Alright, since the poll respondents requested, here are some excepts from Roy Baumeister's "Is there anything good about men"
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The main thesis of the book is that men and women each have their own things that they are good at, and that the things that men are good at are vital to society flourishing.

Modern society is increasingly viewing women more favorably than men hence the "women are wonderful" effecr

Men are overrepresented on the tail ends:

Motivation is one reason for sex differences in math careers. Even in male hobbies, math and numbers seem to be much more prevalent than in female hobbies:

The myth that women do more work than men. Women also seem to overstate the amount of work they do more:

Why are men competitive? Because many men throughout history didn't reproduce, and modern men are descended from the ones who competed and reproduced.

Women are likable in a way that men aren't. Talking to a woman in a given day seems to be good for you in a way that talking to a man isn't:

Are men more social than women? The author says there is some evidence that that is the case, but it is more complicated.

Women are more social in interpersonal relationships but men are more social in larger groups:

He claims that within interpersonal relationships, women are more violent than men. This is controversial but there does seem to be some evidence to support it: aliesq.medium.com/extensive-rese…

We see the same pattern with helping, men seem to be more likely to help strangers even though they are less altruistic overall. This article seem to confirm that: ). psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sexual…

Sharing your feelings is beneficial in intimate settings that women are more likely to operate in, but bad in large groups that males tend to operate in:

How this applies to various emotions, fear happiness and anger:

Men favor equity, women favor equality:

Men are higher in agency, women are higher in communion:

Men and women may have different moral intuitions where men are more concerned with abstract principles and women more concerned with care. Men are only upset when people are punished unfairly, where as women feel distress when people are punished fairly:

The social relationships that men excel at are what create mass culture:

Human culture emerged from the men's social sphere:

continuation of above passage. Women aren't as attuned to competition between groups:

Anecdote about how male social institutions changed childbirth:

The fact that men rise to the top of these social hierarchies is not necessarily evidence of oppression. You could just as easily try to paint men as victims of oppression:

Lets be fair to everyone wrt to culture. Especially spicy passage at the end.

will continue tomorrow

Men are more expendable than women. First Class men had a lower survival rate on the Titanic than third class women:

Another way in which men are expendable is war. Passage describing how expendable troops were to the Russians:

That difference in expendability relates to the different social spheres. In one on one relationships that females cultivate, the parties are not replaceable.

This is in contrast to the male social sphere where people can and will be replaced:

Women have a hard time being treated as expendable, hence why Norah Vincent had such a hard time being a man. Women changed the culture of institutions to make them treat everyone as valuable:

"So now the women actually have such networks and organizations. The men never did. The current state of affairs is because of the false assumption that the men did."

Manhood is earned womanhood is ascribed. Every adult female is a woman, but not every adult male is a man:

As a result of this Men are judged by their achievements, women by their appearance. This can have positive and negatives for both sexes:

Discussion of the purpose of the male ego:

Men must produce more than they consume, and the culture benefits from this:

We are weakening both the privileges and obligations of manhood. This is a remarkable social experiment:

"Being a workaholic means that you don’t enjoy the fruits of your labor. However, your wife might."

"America’s greatness was propelled by its men more than its women. Maybe the women could have done just as well. Maybe not. It is fair, and today it is politically correct, to assume that women can make a society great. In empirical fact, so far in world history, they haven’t"

Culture thrives off of the male drive that existed in ancient warriors on the battlefield, and teenagers on the football field:

Perhaps women don't have the same drive for greatness, because women aren't suckers. The quest for greatness is mostly a futile pursuit:

The male ego is natures answer to this futility:

Men want sex more than women. Feminists claim otherwise, but that is false.

Marriage can be viewed as an exchange between resources and sex:

What a world without men would actually look like:

A world without men would be world with less laughter:

Are grade inflation and the self-esteem movement harming the male pursuit of greatness in schools:

Boys are instead channeling this pursuit of greatness into useless video games:

Women have gained substantially in society, what have men gained in return? More opportunities for sex.

Feminism harming male sports in college is fine because sports don't matter. If this happens with science it could be catastrophic:

Closing passage. What does the future for men hold?

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