#Edinwebcast Transpt Cttee today 23.5.24
Watch->
Big changes may happen today:
🤔#GeorgeSt scheme may be postponed [concern re costs; & amount of🚖🚘🚚]
🙄#WorkplaceParkingLevy may be dropped [#LibDems change from + to -]
👍Fairer costs for secure🚲storage edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn #Edinwebcast
Q: Cllr @julebandel asks re #TravellingSafely (bollarded) cycle routes
A: The Experimental Traffic Orders run for *maximum* 18 months, but council can make final decision after 6 months consultation if satisfied with the results
Report & decisions likely Jan 2025.
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel #Edinwebcast
Officer: The agreed Circulation Plan would remove through motor-traffic. But @scotGov cash uncertainty means delay
Cllr @DAstonSNP asks why delay, given that costs are low?
Cllr @KatrinaFaccenda says previous closures worked well
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast
Cllr @DAstonSNP: Circulation Plan vital to council target for 30% car-km reduction by 2030
His amendment accepted, so officers will report back on cost alternatives, given the uncertainty over the previously expected @scotgov cash
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy
Consultn report->
Q: @DAstonSNP asks if demand management (DM) such as #WPL is essential to 30% car-km reduction target
A: Yes, DM essential and council has few DM options. Govt has not allowed road-user charging democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s705…
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy
@CllrScottArthur says 3 priorities to meet 30% target are:
- #CityCentre through-traffic removal
- #CongestionCharge for ex-city commuters
- #BusPriorities
but #WPL problematic
Cllr @DAstonSNP says Cttee cannot spend cash without raising it
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy
#LibDems @kevin_lang @SanneDD withdraw former #WPL support
Concerns re displaced parking & too few buses
#Green @KayleighFONeill @julebandel Support #WPL. Low paid worker concerns can be met through dialogue & levy proceeds
@iaindocherty
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur @kevin_lang @SanneDD @KayleighFONeill @iaindocherty @keithirving1 @JimDensham @POPScotland @carltonreid @laura_laker @Phil_Goodwin99 @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy
🙄Result:
further #WPL progress appears to be postponed indefinitely
Con amendt to scrap WPL defeated
SNP+Green to continue WPL, defeated
Lab+LibDem, which is effectively to postpone indefinitely, succeeds
@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur @kevin_lang @SanneDD @KayleighFONeill @iaindocherty @keithirving1 @JimDensham @POPScotland @carltonreid @laura_laker @Phil_Goodwin99 @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast
Secure Bike Parking @cyclehoop
👍Subsidy proposed to reduce user cost below🚙costs; + lower in deprived areas
Q: Can cost be met in future years?
A: Not a big cost; probably can incorporate in general parking budgets
Q: @EuanHyslop Usage?
A: Big walting list
#Edinwebcast
Secure Bike Parking
Q: Cllr Munro asks what residents do if don't want bike hangars in their street
A: Streets are consulted, then a TRO
Cllr @julebandel & @CllrScottArthur welcome cost reduced below🚙andfurther in deprived areas
👍Report agreed 9-2, Con opposed
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet
Report-->
proposes 'Operational Plan' which dilutes restrictions on coach, taxi and private hire; also becomes one-way
Spokes deputation->
Other deputns seek further dilution
-> democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s705…
spokes.org.uk/wp-content/upl…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b248…
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet
Q: Cllr @sannedd: 1-way would change the road; is segregation possible?
A: One-way allows extra width, so seg may be feasible, but traffic restrictions mean it's safe without
Q: Transport benefits?
A: Removing🚙parking is major & helps traffic targets
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet
@CllrScottArthur says scheme vital for #CityCentre &🚶♀️🧑🦽🚲
@DAstonSNP says great scheme BUT
- costs huge, £39m & will impact AT budget
- #WPL cash now lost
- small projects better value
- 🚶♀️🧑🦽🚲Geo St conditions diluted
So amendt seeks further options
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet
Green Cllr @julebandel v concerned re watering down🚶♀️🧑🦽🚲conditions
Spokes view->
Con @CllrWhyte says the cash could be better spent, but if goes ahead need more access for coaches, private hire, etc, not "cycle superhighway" spokes.org.uk/wp-content/upl…
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet
Voting..
Con amendt 2
LibDem amendt 2
Lab/SNP/Green combined & reworded 7
Not sure of exact effect (@DAstonSNP explain?) but *think* this means project remains on track (delayed?) but with report on options & how fits wider city centre plans
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte #Edinwebcast: #Roseburn-#UnionCanal
Motion by Cllr @rsmcksg seeks
"temporary measures for walking, wheeling and cycling in the area, particularly re the crossing of Dundee Street at Gibson Terrace”
[this crossing was postponed to a later scheme]
Agreed, with report to next TEC
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle #Edinwebcast
Libdem motion to postpone Tram consultation due to funding uncertainty
Motion defeated
@CllrScottArthur says consultation likely to be in late summer/ autumn, not sooner
[SpokesNote:
Hear all the #tram arguments at our 5 June #SpokesMtg-->]
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle #EdinWebcast
@cargobikemovmnt emergency motion
by Cllrs @julebandel & @KayleighFONeill
Motion Agreed
More about the organisation and its great work
Here--> cargobikemovement.com
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle @cargobikemovmnt @KayleighFONeill @LaidBackBikes #Edinwebcast ... #GeorgeStreet
Could somebody
(@CllrScottArthur @DAstonSNP @julebandel ?)
post the full approved amended motion?
It was somewhat confusing to watch!
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle @cargobikemovmnt @KayleighFONeill @LaidBackBikes @thecockburn @FinlayMcF @MG4CityCentre @jomowat @EdinReporter ⬆️Our thread from
@Edinburgh_CC #Transport Cttee 23.5.24
#edinwebcast
Incl..
👍#GeorgeStreet needs cost justification
👍#DundeeStreet investigate🚶♀️🚲crossing
👍@cyclehoop🚲storage fee reduced
👎#WorkplaceParkingLevy postponed indefinitely
🤔#Granton tram consultn now late summer
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