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#Edinwebcast Transpt Cttee today 23.5.24
Watch->

Big changes may happen today:
🤔#GeorgeSt scheme may be postponed [concern re costs; & amount of🚖🚘🚚]
🙄#WorkplaceParkingLevy may be dropped [#LibDems change from + to -]
👍Fairer costs for secure🚲storage edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…


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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn #Edinwebcast

Q: Cllr @julebandel asks re #TravellingSafely (bollarded) cycle routes

A: The Experimental Traffic Orders run for *maximum* 18 months, but council can make final decision after 6 months consultation if satisfied with the results
Report & decisions likely Jan 2025.
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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel #Edinwebcast

Officer: The agreed Circulation Plan would remove through motor-traffic. But @scotGov cash uncertainty means delay

Cllr @DAstonSNP asks why delay, given that costs are low?
Cllr @KatrinaFaccenda says previous closures worked well


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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast

Cllr @DAstonSNP: Circulation Plan vital to council target for 30% car-km reduction by 2030

His amendment accepted, so officers will report back on cost alternatives, given the uncertainty over the previously expected @scotgov cash

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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy

Consultn report->

Q: @DAstonSNP asks if demand management (DM) such as #WPL is essential to 30% car-km reduction target

A: Yes, DM essential and council has few DM options. Govt has not allowed road-user charging democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s705…

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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy

@CllrScottArthur says 3 priorities to meet 30% target are:
- #CityCentre through-traffic removal
- #CongestionCharge for ex-city commuters
- #BusPriorities
but #WPL problematic

Cllr @DAstonSNP says Cttee cannot spend cash without raising it
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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy

#LibDems @kevin_lang @SanneDD withdraw former #WPL support
Concerns re displaced parking & too few buses

#Green @KayleighFONeill @julebandel Support #WPL. Low paid worker concerns can be met through dialogue & levy proceeds

@iaindocherty


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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur @kevin_lang @SanneDD @KayleighFONeill @iaindocherty @keithirving1 @JimDensham @POPScotland @carltonreid @laura_laker @Phil_Goodwin99 @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast .. #WorkplaceParkingLevy

🙄Result:
further #WPL progress appears to be postponed indefinitely

Con amendt to scrap WPL defeated
SNP+Green to continue WPL, defeated
Lab+LibDem, which is effectively to postpone indefinitely, succeeds
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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @SpokesPorty @johnrobson87 @EdinReporter @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @thecockburn @julebandel @scotgov @DAstonSNP @KatrinaFaccenda @CllrScottArthur @kevin_lang @SanneDD @KayleighFONeill @iaindocherty @keithirving1 @JimDensham @POPScotland @carltonreid @laura_laker @Phil_Goodwin99 @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast

Secure Bike Parking @cyclehoop

👍Subsidy proposed to reduce user cost below🚙costs; + lower in deprived areas

Q: Can cost be met in future years?
A: Not a big cost; probably can incorporate in general parking budgets

Q: @EuanHyslop Usage?
A: Big walting list


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#Edinwebcast
Secure Bike Parking

Q: Cllr Munro asks what residents do if don't want bike hangars in their street
A: Streets are consulted, then a TRO

Cllr @julebandel & @CllrScottArthur welcome cost reduced below🚙andfurther in deprived areas

👍Report agreed 9-2, Con opposed


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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet

Report-->
proposes 'Operational Plan' which dilutes restrictions on coach, taxi and private hire; also becomes one-way

Spokes deputation->

Other deputns seek further dilution
-> democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s705…
spokes.org.uk/wp-content/upl…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b248…


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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet

Q: Cllr @sannedd: 1-way would change the road; is segregation possible?
A: One-way allows extra width, so seg may be feasible, but traffic restrictions mean it's safe without

Q: Transport benefits?
A: Removing🚙parking is major & helps traffic targets Image
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet

@CllrScottArthur says scheme vital for #CityCentre &🚶‍♀️🧑‍🦽🚲

@DAstonSNP says great scheme BUT
- costs huge, £39m & will impact AT budget
- #WPL cash now lost
- small projects better value
- 🚶‍♀️🧑‍🦽🚲Geo St conditions diluted
So amendt seeks further options

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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet

Green Cllr @julebandel v concerned re watering down🚶‍♀️🧑‍🦽🚲conditions

Spokes view->

Con @CllrWhyte says the cash could be better spent, but if goes ahead need more access for coaches, private hire, etc, not "cycle superhighway" spokes.org.uk/wp-content/upl…



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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte #Edinwebcast #GeorgeStreet

Voting..
Con amendt 2
LibDem amendt 2
Lab/SNP/Green combined & reworded 7

Not sure of exact effect (@DAstonSNP explain?) but *think* this means project remains on track (delayed?) but with report on options & how fits wider city centre plans


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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte #Edinwebcast: #Roseburn-#UnionCanal

Motion by Cllr @rsmcksg seeks
"temporary measures for walking, wheeling and cycling in the area, particularly re the crossing of Dundee Street at Gibson Terrace”
[this crossing was postponed to a later scheme]

Agreed, with report to next TEC
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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle #Edinwebcast

Libdem motion to postpone Tram consultation due to funding uncertainty

Motion defeated

@CllrScottArthur says consultation likely to be in late summer/ autumn, not sooner

[SpokesNote:
Hear all the #tram arguments at our 5 June #SpokesMtg-->]
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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle #EdinWebcast

@cargobikemovmnt emergency motion
by Cllrs @julebandel & @KayleighFONeill

Motion Agreed

More about the organisation and its great work
Here--> cargobikemovement.com

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@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle @cargobikemovmnt @KayleighFONeill @LaidBackBikes #Edinwebcast ... #GeorgeStreet

Could somebody
(@CllrScottArthur @DAstonSNP @julebandel ?)
post the full approved amended motion?

It was somewhat confusing to watch! Image
@julebandel @CllrScottArthur @SanneDD @CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @johnrobson87 @InfraSisters @EdCriticalMass @edi_dot_bike @edfoc @nigelbagshaw @DAstonSNP @CllrWhyte @rsmcksg @RoseburnCycle @cargobikemovmnt @KayleighFONeill @LaidBackBikes @thecockburn @FinlayMcF @MG4CityCentre @jomowat @EdinReporter ⬆️Our thread from
@Edinburgh_CC #Transport Cttee 23.5.24
#edinwebcast

Incl..
👍#GeorgeStreet needs cost justification
👍#DundeeStreet investigate🚶‍♀️🚲crossing
👍@cyclehoop🚲storage fee reduced
👎#WorkplaceParkingLevy postponed indefinitely
🤔#Granton tram consultn now late summer


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Oct 24, 2024
#CorstorphineConnections

The Traffic Orders Subcttee (*not* Transport Cttee!) makes the final decision this morning

Report recommends making the scheme
permanent-->democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s759…

Watch-->edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…

Officer answering qns on the report Image
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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @TrafficLow @hank_chief @RoseburnCycle @EdinReporter #CorstorphineConnections

Cllr @MG4CityCentre (Lab) & @KayleighFONeill (Grn) propose the motion to make scheme permanent

Cllr #NeilRoss (LibD) amendment to scrap #busgate, to "make traffic flow more efficient" & avoid longer🚙journeys/displacement. Also says consultn inadequate Image
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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @TrafficLow @hank_chief @RoseburnCycle @EdinReporter @MG4CityCentre @KayleighFONeill #CorstorphineConnections

The TrafficRegs subcttee, not the Transport Cttee decides..

Cllr @MarcoGBiagi says the market research is poor
@CllrNormanWork says #busgate not working well

VOTE
6 - scrap bus gate (Lib/Con/SNP)
3 - keep bus gate (Lab/Green)

🙄So bus gate will go!! Image
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Read 4 tweets
Sep 12, 2024
#Edinwebcast Transpt Cttee today 12.9.24

Watch->
Papers->

First meeting for new convener @cllr_jenkinson

Includes..
#PrincesStreet/#WaverleyValley - future
#GeorgeStreet - big funding problem
#Corstorphine #LTN
#Climate plan edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…


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@cllr_jenkinson @CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @Cyclesouthedin @EdinReporter @TrafficLow @thecockburn @CockburnChair @best_edinburgh @johnrobson87 @AvGeekAlex #Edinwebcast

#Corstorphine Connections
Report->
Written submissions by @TrafficLow (for) &
ACE (against)
-->
Also ACE verbal

@CllrChasBooth asks how ACE would cut traffic?
A: main road will always be busy, can make side roads safer democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s745…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b251…


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@cllr_jenkinson @CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @Cyclesouthedin @EdinReporter @TrafficLow @thecockburn @CockburnChair @best_edinburgh @johnrobson87 @AvGeekAlex @CllrChasBooth #Edinwebcast .. #Corstorphine Connections

Local solicitors also oppose LTN

Cllr Munro asks if ok to keep LTN except #BusGate
A (solicitor): Yes, support safer conditions e.g for schools

NOTE: Transport Cttee no longer takes final decision, it will be up to a legal subcommittee


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Read 18 tweets
Aug 15, 2024
#Edinwebcast Transpt Cttee today 15.8.24

Watch->

Papers->

Includes..
- #BusLanes 7-7-7 & #PrivateHireCars
- #MeadowsToCanal another consultn?
- #StJames pedestrian area - allowing vehicles?
- #BikeHire - report postponed
& more... edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…


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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @EdinReporter @EdCriticalMass @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @best_edinburgh @Algorhythmica1 @AvGeekAlex @johnrobson87 #Edinwebcast #BusLanes trial

👍7-7-7 timings
👎allowing #PrivateHireCar access
Report-->

Superb @EdinburghBUG deputn
HERE-->

+ he references Spokes deputn re🚲impacts

Q Cllr @DAstonSNP asks if citywide 7-7-7 would be best
A YES! democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s730…
democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b250…


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@CyclingEdin @edi_dot_bike @EdinReporter @EdCriticalMass @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @best_edinburgh @Algorhythmica1 @AvGeekAlex @johnrobson87 @EdinburghBUG @DAstonSNP #Edinwebcast #MeadowsToCanal

More pre-TRO consultn proposed as plans changed significantly
->

@CllrChasBooth amendt seeking to consult only via the TRO [edited to include businesses consultn]

😳The original consultn was 10 years ago

👍Amendment agreed ! democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/s730…



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Read 11 tweets
Feb 1, 2024
Transport Committee 1.2.24

Agenda-->

Watch #Edinwebcast-->

Discussing..
7.1 #MobilityPlan includes🚶‍♀️👩‍🦽🚲#ActiveTravel Action Plan
7.2 #FutureStreets includes🚲network
7.3 #Tram - will🚲be included if tram uses #Roseburn #NEPN? democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocument…
edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/we…


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@CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @SW20Ed @best_edinburgh @LaidBackBikes @TransformScot @EdCriticalMass @InfraSisters @edfoc #Edinwebcast
#Roseburn #tram

Spokes deputn @AvGeekAlex
text-->

🚲is essential & feasible if tram uses #RoseburnPath

Q: Cllr Munro has received many emails supporting the path .. but is it bike v tram?
A: No, both can coexist democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b241…



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@CyclingEdin @SpokesPorty @Cyclesouthedin @SW20Ed @best_edinburgh @LaidBackBikes @TransformScot @EdCriticalMass @InfraSisters @edfoc @AvGeekAlex @CllrScottArthur @DAstonSNP @CouncillorCowdy @julebandel @SanneDD #Edinwebcast #Roseburn #tram

@TransformScot deputn supports including🚲👩‍🦽🚶‍♀️
@DalryCemetery deputn highlights #wildlife #mentalhealth issues & seeks tram onroad

Q: Cllr @HalOsler asks if tram should be onroad
A: Spokes supports either

Q: @julebandel/@DAstonSNP supportive qns


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