Thread by @NewClear314

Sundance Decoded
1.
Only one of the biggest five film festivals is located in the United States and it is uniquely focused on independent films compared to the others.

It's name comes not from an independent film, but an old major studio film starred in by its creator.

2.
Specifically Robert Redford and his 1969 film "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"

Why he and that film specifically would become the largest convergence point yearly for the biggest independent films is worth decoding!

3.
That film was based on a true story. In fact the subtitle is literally "Not that it matters, but most of it is true."

The description is crucial context: "As the west rapidly becomes civilized, a pair of outlaws in 1890's flee to South America in hope of evading the law."

02/20/1901 Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid Flee USA To Commit Crimes Overseas
02/25/1901 Platt Amendment Introduced: Defines Terms for USA to Leave Cuba

11/1908 Cuba Ruled Stable Enough for US Troops to Leave (Platt)
11/1908 Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid Killed by Bolivian Military

5.
After running from the U.S. law overseas, they met their end not by pursuing police, but military. It's the famous final scene of the movie.

When reconciled with USA motives overseas "American Imperialism" the puzzle pieces for what the Sundance Kid was fall into place.

6.
The short answer is a "face" of crime much like Al Capone.

05/16/1929 1st MAFIA Summit: Atlantic City Conference Ends (Al Capone Central Figure & Arrested AT MOVIE THEATER Same Day)
05/16/1929 1st Academy Awards Held in Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel (Top Movie Award)

7.
The top movie award began the same day the first Mafia Conference with a Crackdown on Al Capone at a movie theater.

The top movie festival in America is Sundance and it is named after a movie ending with a crackdown on the top criminal of his time via the Sundance Kid.

8.
Only instead of the USA enacting justice, it is a foreign military. A military achieving the feat at the same time the USA is allowed to leave its first foreign occupation overseas due to stability.

A ruling that began the same time the Sundance Kid originally left the USA!

9.
06/06-10/1898 Battle of Guantánamo Bay Seizing First Foreign Military Base in Spanish American War
06/09/1898 Unequal Treaty Signed Between UK & China Convention Expanding Territory and Extension of Hong Kong 99-Year-Lease

Reconcile China in relation to Sundance Fleeing...

10.
02/20/1901 Butch Cassidy (Parker) & Sundance Kid Flee USA
02/21/1901 At Insistence of USA the 8 Nation Alliance Occupying China Agree No Nation Would Acquire Additional Territory
02/20/1901 Hawaii Territorial Legislature Convenes 1st Time
02/21/1901 Havana Constitution Signed

11.
Al Capone & Sundance Kid had enormous celebrity during their time.

Fame is choreographed and the motivations for turning criminals into celebrities is often in cultivating a perception. A shift in view which facilitates a demand for things like more government or war.

12.
Note in that last article, it wasn't just "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" but their gang the "Wild Bunch"

WILD signifies what? "BUNCH" while indicative is actually the more important clue given what it overlaps with...

13.
09/24/1969 Wild Bunch: Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid Premiere
09/26/1969 Brady Bunch First Aired

01/26/1973 Most Famous Brady Bunch Song: It's a Sunshine Day First Aired on "Amateur Nite" Episode
01/27/1973 Vietnam War Ends With Paris Peace Accords

Reconcile each usage...

14.
Brady Bunch = Peaceful UNIFICATION of 2 Families into 1 like North & South Vietnam

10/03/1990 West and East Germany Unify: (Becomes National Holiday)
10/04/1990 "Real Live Brady Bunch" First Becomes Phenomenon (First Mass Reporting of Revival)

09/20/1990 West & East Germany Vote to Unify
09/19/1990 "Real Live Brady Bunch" Adds Show

15.
01/17/1991 1st "Sundance Film Festival" (Called Utah Film Fest Before this)
01/17/1991 Real Live Brady Bunch Show 1st Talk Show Appearance: Joan Rivers
01/17/1991 Gulf War Begins: Iraq Bombing in Kuwait
01/18/1991 AC-DC Concert Kills 3 as 13k Stampede Salt Palace Utah Jazz

16.
Those UTAH connections with Sundance are worth reconciling further...

1991 was the premiere of Point Break with Johnny UTAH in Point Break. That may help explain that connection as well as why it ends overseas in pursuit of bank robbers and dying in a wave at the end.

17.
The Utah Jazz connection is also worth noting further as that was the last year the Utah Jazz used the Salt Palace before switching to the Delta Center.

I'm sure there's something I can decode there later given that's the first year Sundance changed names..

18.
05/12/1991 Final Salt Palace Game for Utah Jazz Before Moving Losing to PORTLAND 3-Point-loss
05/13/1991 Most Famous Cannes Film Festival Moment Madonna Drops Pink Opera Coat Revealing Cone Bra

Cannes & Sundance = Both Top 5 Film Festivals

Cone bra? 'll need to dig deeper into her performance of "Truth or Dare" but my thought is in tracking given the surrounding comms + sexual connotation.

19.
That "Brady Bunch" connection is worth returning to briefly as I couldn't help but notice one of the more famous quotes from Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid was by Sheriff BLEDSOE.

That's a name strongly tied to Brady in some of my other decodes.

20.
I'll have to watch this film at some point given how much context I now have to consider.

I did watch the first and last parts which gave me a few good clues for deconstruction.

The final part has the two main characters talking about all the future places they'll rob when they go to Australia. It then freeze frames just before they are gunned down by the Bolivian military.

21.
As I said before the point was law and order much like my decodes of Oklahoma.

In fact, another film with the Sundance Kid was "Badman's territory" as "West of the Oklahoma Border is Badman's Territory" a REGION NOT YET GOVERNED BY STATEHOOD" Jesse James + Coyote Movie.

22.
Jesse James original movie followed by Wild Bunch sequel with Sundance Kid.

I cover Jesse James here and it fits as a "prequel" of sorts.

There is one particularly curious famous moment from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid worth reconciling...

23.
The most famous song from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head". Which won an Oscar.

A joyful song about not having a care, as Sundance does bicycle tricks on a newly purchased bike...

The bike seller is noted in the credits 5th.

24.
The bike seller appears in a strange place in the film as he intrudes on the first outcry for action against the Sundance Kid by the law.

Using the posse gathered together for vigilantism to sell a bicycle which Sundance then buys and does tricks on.

Thus his doing bike tricks makes me think the symbolism is in relation to playing the public.

Notably he does tricks and a bull chases him as that "raindrops keep fallin' on my head" song plays...

25.
I also note the name "Parker" as the real name of Butch Cassidy and Sundance is in Park Utah. The most famous use of that song after the original film was Spider-Man 2.

A scene where Peter Parker TAKES OFF HIS GLASSES and refuses to act as Spider-man and pursue criminals.

26.
07/14/1991 James Cameron After Film Rights to Spider-Man Reported (Peter Parker)
07/12/1991 Point Break Wide Release-Plot: Johnny Utah Investigation of Bank Robbing Surfers

01/17/1991 1st "Sundance Film Festival" (Utah Film Fest Before this)
01/17/1991 Real Live Brady Bunch Show 1st Talk Show Appearance: Joan Rivers
01/17/1991 Gulf War Begins: Iraq Bombing  in Kuwait
01/18/1991 AC-DC Concert Kills 3 as 13k Stampede Salt Palace Utah Jazz

05/12/1991 Final Salt Palace Game for Utah Jazz Before Moving Losing to PORTLAND 3-Point-loss
05/13/1991 Most Famous Cannes Film Festival Moment Madonna Drops Pink Opera Coat Revealing Cone Bra

27.
I said it was in Park Utah, but that's only true now. Next year has Sundance moving to Boulder Colorado, an unprecedented change as I see nothing comparable to that drastic of a change in the other big festivals history.

I've made some big new connections in this thread, but I'm once again out of time. I'll likely continue this thread next time as I see a lot of potential here to further clarify things. Especially in relation to why it's independent film symbolism in relation to Sundance...

28.
03/27/2025 Sundance Institute Officially Decides to Move From Park City, UTAH to Boulder, Colorado
03/27/2025 Utah Becomes First State to Ban Fluoridation of Drinking Water

Utah/Utah and since I've already decoded water fluoridation I can better interpret this...

29.
Water = information. (Info leak/news wave/argument holds water)

04/12/1944 NY First Water Fluoridation Test Announced
04/10/1944 NY First NBC TV Regularly Scheduled Program

06/14/1945 NY Fluoridated Water Anniversary Celebration
06/15/1945 ABC Official Spun off From NBC

ABC/NBC = 2/3 of the "Big 3" Networks

10/12/1944 Michigan Announces Fluoridation of Water
10/15/1944 Precursor of Howdy Doody: Triple B Ranch first Reported (Howdy Doody = First kids TV Craze)

Reconcile this with the sudden official rejection of treatment overlapping with the top US Film festival moving away?

30.
Water fluoridation is treatment of information and TV/movie programming is the primary way our info is "treated".

Note cancellation is due to EXPENSE and therefore rejecting fluoridation is rejecting the process of $ spent on the daily narratives for reasons I often decode.

31.
03/26/2025 David Magie Childs Death Famous As Architect of the Post 9/11 World Trade Center Tower
03/27/2025 Sundance Institute Officially Decides to Move From Park City, UTAH to Boulder, Colorado
03/27/2025 Utah Becomes First State to Ban Fluoridation of Drinking Water

32.
04/01/1941 David M. Child Born WTC Replacement Architect Post 9/11
04/01/1941 Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, Established for WW2: (Expansion of Oldest Overseas Occupation into Full Military Base)
04/01/1941 Arsenic and Old Lace First TOURING ROAD SHOW Begins (Murderous Family Descended from Mayflower Settlers, but Over Time Became Maniacs)

33.
06/17/1944 Arsenic and Old Lace Broadway Run Ends After 1,444 Shows (Near Record Length)
06/14/1944 NY Fluoridated Water Test Begins

ARSENIC - Reconcile fluoridation as a concept of the ideal amount of "poison" in the water for public health. What would "poison" be? Negative News? Disinformation?

04/12/1944 Water Fluoridation Test First Announced NY Over 10 Years
04/10/1944 NBC Regular Programming Begins NY

06/14/1945 Fluoridated Water 1st Birthday Celebration in NY
06/15/1945 ABC Spun off From NBC Officially

New WTC architect died by dementia and given the connections with the WTC and international funding it could be related to this transition with public "drinking water"....

34.
Having Sundance move to Colorado is stated to make it more publicly accessible putting it near Colorado University and pedestrian-only Pearl Street Mall.

They reference 2017 discussing the move with a link to a Sundance first focusing on a movie about California water.

35.
Robert Redford was the origin of Sundance Film Festival and he died last year after selling Sundance Mountain Resort in late 2020.

Notably that's when his son died of liver cancer while awaiting his 3rd transplant.

If I line up this history...

36.
10/16/2020 Fukushima (Nuclear Meltdown) to Release Radioactive Water Into Pacific
10/16/2020 James Redford Death to Liver Cancer
12/11/2020 Robert Redford Sells Sundance to Broadreach

03/26/2025 Sundance Moving Utah (Beehive State) to Colorado
09/16/2025 Robert Redford Death

37.
Once again WATER TREATMENT, this time NUCLEAR.

Note Redford's son was working on a documentary when he died "Where the Past Begins" about Amy Tan.

Tan was famous for 1993 Joy Luck Club, same year Redford received his 2 liver transplants, dying awaiting the 3rd in 2020.

38.
03/30/1993 Robert Redford's Son (age 30) Released after 1st Liver Transplant
03/31/1993 Bruce Lee's Son (age 28) Dies On Set of Crow Famously Cursed

This was the 1st of two liver transplants this year, and the 2nd one has an even clearer symbol to clarify what's going on.

39.
07/16/1993 Robert Redford from COLORADO Gets 2nd Liver Transplant Last Week - 1st Reported Today Dr Byers Shaw

Last week liver transplant?
07/07/1993 First British Baby to Survive Liver Transplant Jemma HAMILTON Dies Age 7 at QUEEN ELIZABETH Hospital

More than enough clues.

40.
09/08/1993 Joy Luck Club Premiere

Redford dies while working on documentary about the woman behind it.

Movie about Chinese immigrant mothers and the differences between their CHINESE AMERICAN children.

That rings a very specific bell given all the other context...

41.
03/01/1993 Petronas Towers Construction Begins (Replaced Sears Tower/WTC as Tallest)
03/31/1993 Brandon Lee Death (HALF ASIAN/HALF CAUCASIAN = CHINA/USA) Filming Breakthru Film Crow
+1d
04/01/1993 HONG KONG CENTRAL BANK OPENS
+1y
04/01/1994 Petronas Towers Construction of Superstructure Start (FOREIGN TALLEST IN WORLD)

But what makes this connection particularly important...

42.
07/01/1997 British Handover Hong Kong to China
07/02/1997 Asian Financial Crisis Began (2nd only to Great Depression)
07/02/1997 Titanic's Original Release Date
07/04/1997 Rumble in the Bronx "Hong Kong Maestro" Jackie Chan First Hit in West UK (Freedom Day)

08/20/1997 Hong Kong Bird Flu 1st Kill Reported: 3-Year Old Boy in QUEEN ELIZABETH HOSPITAL
08/27/1997 Shanghai World Financial Center Construction Began (Tallest Building)
08/31/1997 Princess Di Death + Egyptian Film Producer

Queen Elizabeth Hospital being the same name of that liver transplant hospital.

Take it all together and the coordination is in a global transition I frequently discuss and revisit...

43.
03/30/1993 David Copperfield Special: Fire Escape Premiere's ABC
03/30/1993 Robert Redford Son 1st Liver Transplant
03/31/1993 Bruce Lee Bruce's son Brandon Lee age 28 killed on the set of the movie The Crow
04/19/1993 Waco Cult Standoff Ends Famous FIRE KILLING CHILDREN

03/12/1993 FIRE in the Sky Premiere Alien Abduction Movie
03/12/1993 DAVID COPPERFIELD ESCAPE FROM Fires Of Passion Filmed with Wayne Gretzky
03/12/1993 WACO Negotiations Begin Breaking Down: Woman Released but Detained/Arrested Publicly+ Electricity Shut Off of Compound (Leads to FIRE)

03/12/1999 Carrie 2 Premiere
03/24/1999 Matrix Premiere (Carrie Ann Moss)
04/18/1999 Wayne Gretzky Final Game Rangers
04/20/1999 Columbine Colorado: Most Famous School Shooting

03/01/1993 Matrix Show Premiere (Carrie Ann Moss Starred in both this show and 1999 Matrix)

44.
It's difficult to gauge symbolism like transplants without comparable example.

I looked across famous transplants for an easy one and I found an example similar to Redford in that it involves a 2nd transplant for a famous actor...

Tho in this case the organ is a kidney.

45.
02/06/1983 Famous Diff'rent Strokes Child Actor Gary Coleman Undergoes Drainage Surgery to Allow 2nd Kidney Transplant
02/05/1983 Diff'rent Strokes Most Famous Episode: The Bicycle Man: Arnold is Targeted by a Pedophile

"Draining" to allow transplant (Moving) of "KIDney"

46.
The symbol with a kidney transplant prep + famous child actor + episode about protecting children (most famous of his career) is clear.

Outside of simple education of issue, it is likely a marker for something larger I don't have identified but could speculate on.

47.
I say that because it follows the pattern of other similar comms as they rarely invoke a career defining symbol for a simple PSA.

With that in mind it could be a marker in relation to a larger operation with law enforcement or legislation I don't have identified yet. Those are the most likely candidates anyway, but it could be other things...

48.
A good example is the original of this thread as there are layers to it.

When I began this thread it was focused largely on the international crime tied to the Sundance Kid and "Wild Bunch".

They have a long history of celebrity tracked by rapidly modernizing police.

49.
That was a random scene I scrolled to and it was about tracking anyone over any terrain over any distance.

It was the followup to a scene where Sheriff Bledsoe tells them they can't escape and are afraid of the times changing. Modernization that is.

Anyway...

50.
I don't have it as a fully established symbol, but at a glance Sundance itself is likely a symbol outside of its associated figures.

"Sun" enables visibility and dancing as movement. A symbol that could convey visibility in celebrity as well as tracking.... in theory

51.
Looking at the history of the time and we see a dramatic narrative of the Pinkertons versus the "Wild Bunch" with Sundance across decades.

I'm sure I'll do a Pinkerton thread in the future, but that'll be its own topic.

Instead let's consider the transition of the festival.

52.
1991 is when the festival became "Sundance" instead of the generically named and the next year is the most frequent example given of the most famous at the festival.

1992 comes up frequently as that's when Quentin Tarantino premiered Reservoir Dogs followed by 1994 Clerks.

53.
AI Description of Reservoir Dogs: "Practically birthed the 1990's indie film boom"

Reservoir Dogs Tagline: "Five Strangers Team Up For the Perfect Crime" "They don't know each other's name. But they've got each other's number."

Got each other's number? Internet dial up?

54.
Birthed indie boom? I'll return to the point of triggering that.

First let's jump to a later Tarantino film as I found an unambiguous pattern tied to the most Cannes film festival scandal that comes up on Google.

Remember Cannes/Sundance both "big 5" but Cannes is #1.

55.
#1 Cannes Scandal = Nazi Sympathizing of Lars Von Trier during promotion of the 2nd film in his "Depression Trilogy"

05/18/2009 Depression Trilogy 1st Film: Antichrist Premiere Cannes
05/20/2009 Inglourious Basterds Premiere Cannes Tarantino Brutalization of Evil Nazi's
05/20/2009 Depression Trilogy 1st Film: Antichrist Premiere in Theaters

56.
The 2nd film in that trilogy was filmed at "Troillhattan" TROLL?

05/18/2011 CANNES SCANDAL Director Lars von Trier sympathetic remarks about Adolf Hitler while promoting Melancholia

And if we look at when the film premiered the following week...

57.
05/26/2011 Melancholia Wide Premiere (Nazi Outrage)
05/27/2011 Anthony Wiener Scandal Begins as lewd photo appears briefly on Weiner’s Twitter account.

"Conservative Andrew Breitbart is first to report the image, which shows the bulging crotch of a man in his underwear"

58.
I've gone over his scandal before.

It would be difficult to make this any more catered to a joke for public consumption.

Of course it likely coordinated things as well and it's probably tied to social media given the origins of the scandal...

59.
Returning to 1992 Reservoir Dogs "birthing the 90's indie boom"

1991 is when Sundance changed into "Sundance" and given we are dealing with those specific years there is one massive global change to consider in relation to them...

60.
01/21/1992 Reservoir Dogs Premiere at Sundance LAUNCHES INDIE BOOM
01/21/1992 Russia Kosmos 1st Satellite LAUNCH Russia Post USSR Breakup 1991 (Photo Recon)
01/23/1992 Nintendo Announces Buy of Washington Mariners (Opens Floodgates to Japanese Players in US Baseball)

61.
12/25/1991 USSR Collapse (KGB)
12/23/1991 Nintendo 1st Agrees to Buy Mariners

12/04/1991 Seattle Mariners on Sale for 100 million
12/03/1991 KGB Officially Dissolved
12/01/1991 Gene Hackman Marries Arakawa

04/06/1989 Nintendo Announces They Will Sell Soviet Game Tetris
04/03/1989 Hunt for (Soviet) Red October Filming Begins
04/03/1989 Ken Griffey Jr First MLB Game As Mariner (Pre-Nintendo) (Ken Griffey/KGB)

01/10/1996 Kenshin Anime Begins: RED HAIRED Former Government Employed Killer turned protector
01/10/1996 KGB Successor REDS Given new mission objective: Protect and serve and surveil overseas.

Main Villain of Kenshin = LITERALLY BURNED SPY (Top Manga Post Dragon Ball)

12/22/1988 Tetris Nintendo released becomes their best selling game of all time
12/21/1988 Ken Griffey Released by REDS

08/28/1990 Nintendo Reveals SNES (Sequel)
08/29/1990 Ken Griffey Sr. Joins MARINERS
08/31/1990 Seattle Mariners Ken Griffey & Ken Griffey Jr. 1st father and son to play on same team (NES + SNES)

The more I learn the more I recognize just how connected everything is...

There's a lot more than even this I've gone over before, but I'm out of time today. In fact I just dug up a few new ones today that'll likely cover in my next work session, tho it'll be a new thread as it focuses more on sports and recent news than Sundance.