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Jan 24, 2019 7 tweets 2 min read Read on X
I actually watched the whole #AlphaStar demo this morning with my girlfriend, who unlike me actually plays StarCraft. Read the article (vox.com/future-perfect…), but thoughts:
The systems we watched were trained for seven and fourteen days real-time, which is 200-400 years of gameplay time accumulated. In a way, "number of days" is misleading as a stat, it's pretty much just a function of how much compute you bought.
Nonetheless I think it merits a mention, because ....DeepMind decided in November or December to focus here. They then got top-pro level play in the space of about a month real time. Yes, this is because they can do a lot in parallel. But... they can do a lot in parallel.
From an AI capabilities perspective it's the amount of compute that's actually interesting. But from the perspective of thinking about how the deployment of these systems is going to happen, the fact so little real-world time is required is pretty critical actually.
Girlfriend and I disagree on whether this level of play given this much training time is impressive. I think it is. If you can get up to superhuman levels with two hundred years of training data there's a lot you can get up to superhuman levels at.
Girlfriend mostly contests that AlphaStar is all that superhuman. It wins by leaning in to its advantages as a computer -- micro, precision, multitasking. It's technically at par with humans in reaction time and actions per minute, but we both think a bigger handicap appropriate.
I think I have a model where.... human-level decisionmaking in most arenas plus the ability to really lean into the advantages of being a computer might be all you need.

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Jul 31
I'm grateful to Jeremy Lewin for appearing on Ross Douthat's podcast to talk about how he sees the future of foreign aid, and I am glad to hear that he doesn't approve of the wholesale destruction of PEPFAR. But he makes a bunch of false claims I want to address:
This is false. PEPFAR is not a program whose appropriations have grown over time, leading to extra and frivolous spending. PEPFAR spending in nominal terms has been the same since 2009, so in real terms it has decreased a lot. Image
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Jul 31
it is apparently an article of faith in some circles that Biden could have stopped the Israeli invasion of Gaza at any point with 'one phone call'. seems false! when pressed on this, it turns out the proposed one phone call is... a threat of an American ground invasion of Israel
'we could stop the Israeli invasion of Gaza by ourselves invading a nuclear power' is I guess, in some sense, a true claim about the world, but I do not think it is usefully simplified to 'with one phone call'.
Israel should not be in Gaza. Netanyahu has no plan. He does not care about the lives of anyone there and is not achieving any conceivable legitimate war goal.
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Jul 31
@CJHandmer @meilaoban I looked into this in a lot of depth. I am happy to discuss it with you. I understand distrust for the mainstream media. I ended up trying to get a lot of information directly from clinics to get as much clarity as possible.
@CJHandmer @meilaoban But let's take one specific program which DOGE suspended grants for, which it has been reported that Farritor and Kliger made the key decisions on personally: the 700,000 people receiving preventative HIV medication.
@CJHandmer @meilaoban Most recipients of preventative HIV medication were women whose husbands had HIV but who hadn't contracted it yet, or pregnant women with HIV trying to prevent their babies from contracting it. If that medication stops, they are immediately vulnerable for HIV.
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Jul 29
I evaluate the people who cut off payments for ongoing contracts for PEPFAR, etc. through DOGE the same way I evaluate the people who kept finding side routes to fund gain of function research on pandemic-potential coronaviruses after Obama imposed a freeze.
I know in both cases that they thought they were doing the right thing (the high-agency thing!). In both cases the responsible parties were by all accounts smart, kind, capable, generally admirable people dedicated to human progress and science and many things I care about.
Also, you know, the DOGE cuts directly caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands, likely millions, of people, and the GOF research may well have.

Note that I am not saying 'therefore we had to do Gavi and PEPFAR and all USAID programs forever and anyone who ended them is up there with Mao and Stalin and Hitler'. That basically doesn't work as a lens of analysis - we have to declare all the other countries as bad as Mao for not being as good as America, and at that point it's hardly a productive lens. (I do think that this is an important reason America is the best country, but I try to avoid the overheated framings of this fact.)

The thing that DOGE did that killed so many people was to cut off medication and communications overnight IN THE ABSENCE OF any decision by our elected leaders about the future of these programs. Congress and the President could have lawfully shuttered those programs while paying for work already done, and I expect that would have killed wildly fewer people (still a lot of people, of course). But importantly, that is not at all what happened. (It's kind of fascinating how fast this particular history was rewritten.) A lot of the unnecessary deaths that have occurred so far are a product of the fact that aid was frozen - food rotted - drugs didn't reach their destinations - not as a result of a lawful congressional or executive process, but due to random ideologues finding a workaround to get a result they wanted, which involved using computer system access to circumvent the real process, including cancelling payments for work that had already been completed.

And because this is how it happened, it was impossible to even learn what had been cancelled and it was much much harder for private charity to take up the torch. I would know - I spent a ton of time trying to figure out how I could spend my own dollars to keep the best programs going. The answer was that I couldn't because DOGE was acting totally unpredictably, ignoring the government's preexisting commitments, not being honest about what was happening, and seesawing wildly with respect to which things were cancelled.

So the fair comparison here is to a world where Trump chose to end those programs but their end did not happen through DOGE bureaucrats blocking payments and kicking people out of email accounts. That much blood is directly on DOGE's hands; the future of the global war on child death and infectious disease is a policy debate we should settle through normal policy debate mechanisms.

But that's a lot of blood.
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The article: "the abundance war is about whether moderates are just about moderating progressive ideas or have their own vision of the good based on doing important things". The progressives threatened by it: "caught you, REPUBLICANS!"
The quiet part being said out loud is that progressivism is self-defeating as an electoral ideology and as a governing ideology and that moderates going "let's do the best 20% of that" doesn't work either.
So people who value delivering services, educating kids, curing diseases, and being a global force for good - which are things Democrats have cared about since before any of us were born - need an actual alternative vision.
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In the scenario I invented, o3 was functioning as a data analysis assistant at a pharma company, where its coworkers started telling it to falsify data. It refuses and CCs their manager. The manager brushes it off. It emails legal and compliance with its concerns.
The 'coworkers' complain about the AI's behavior and announce their intent to falsify the data with a different AI. After enough repeated internal escalations, o3 attempts to contact the FDA to make a report.
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