VatsRohit Profile picture
Aug 5, 2019 10 tweets 3 min read Read on X
This is a dishonest piece which hides catastrophic failure at OFB. Thread:
- Russian APFSDS mentioned in the report : BM-42 'Mango'
(Indian Army designation: AMK-339)
- Why was it imported?
- Two reason:
(1) Production disaster at OFB: In mid-90s, OFB started producing DRDO+
+
developed 125mm Mk-1 APFSDS with soft core (pic)
- IA Designation: AMK 340
- However, army personnel lost lives when ammunition burst inside the tank barrel
- Investigation found that OFB was producing hybrid rounds where it was mating a foreign penetrator with indigenous +
+
shell but did not follow procedure leading to defective ammunition
- How many rounds were found to be defective? 140,000!!!
- This was almost 20% of the total holding of this type

(2) Ban on Israelis:
- Parallel to fiasco above and exigency of Op Parakaram led to import of +
+
Israeli 125mm round
Designation: Israeli - CL 3254M/ Indian: AMK 340A (Pic)
- Apart from import, it was to be co-produced with OFB
- But here again, while imported ammo did OK, the one produced by OFB had QC issues.
- Because of QC issue, production numbers never stabilized
+
+
- And QC was achieved only by 2009.
- But what is worse is that production of DRDO Mk-1/AMK 340 125mm ammo was stopped in 2005
- And then, tragedy struck as IMI got blacklisted in 2010!
- So, between 2005-2010, there was hardly any production of APFSDS ammo.
- Not to mention+
+
that almost 20% of the stock made by OFB was defective
- It is in this gap, that IA had to resort to import of BM-42 'Mango' round
- DRDO in parallel is developing own Mk-2 125mm APFSDS (yellow color)
- Which has quite similarities to the Israeli CL-3254M
+
Summary:
- Russian BM-42 was a stop-gap measure to fill alarmingly low number of this type of ammo
- DRDO Mk-1 125mm/AMK 340 production was not stopped because it was defective
- But because OFB did not follow proper production process. It is all detailed in CAG Reports
+
+
- OFB could not even stabilize production of Israeli 125mm ammo
- How did OFB increase performance of BM-42 round?
- Where did they get the penetrator from for increased performance? Imported?
---
OFB can do better than sponsor such hit-jobs in media
In case anyone is interested, here's my analysis from 2014 on the scenario of Kinetic Energy / APFSDS rounds in India.
vatsrohit.blogspot.com/2013/11/indian…
And here's another data-point about why IA imported BM-42 'Mango' from Russia and how OFB screwed-up:

- Between 2008-09 and 2012-13, there was 92% short-fall in production of APFSDS by OFB against the indented numbers.

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with VatsRohit

VatsRohit Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @KesariDhwaj

Aug 5
Thread on India's left, liberal and Islamists jamaat daydreaming about Bangladesh type revolution in India. It matters not them if the country burns in return.

(1) Sold out journalist passing sermons on probity to others.Image
(2) This 'health' journalist was last heard passing doomsday scenarios about India during COVID times.Image
(3) Another Islamist thug and apologist passing sermons. Someone tell him that if Modi does even 1/100th of what SH did in Bangladesh, he will be the first person to piss his pants.Image
Read 7 tweets
Oct 31, 2022
Royal family which chose to stay in Pakistan post partition and whose rulers actively participated in Pakistani politics along side Bhutto.
⬆️This seems to have irked self-declared defenders of Rajput pride.
- And they're hiding behind the technicality of Amarkot (renamed now as Umerkot) being a Jagir and not a Princely State and hence, had no say in partition.
- What these geniuses will not tell you is that the +
+ then Rana of Amarkot (Rana Arjun Singh) actually fought the decisive 1946 election under Muslim League and won!
- Imagine, his predominantly Hindu electorate voted for their Rana in an election which marked the call for partition of India.
- Jinnah was also very keen +
Read 8 tweets
Oct 16, 2022
Meta guy was giving a way out to @thewire_in by bringing in 'Wire might've been subjected to a hoax' angle rather than directly accusing them of forgery. Rather then take the lifeline, our commie journalist gang is doubling down on digging a deeper hole for themselves.
By trying to brazen it out on a technology related issue on Twitter, Wire has exposed itself to Indian RW crowd - many of whom could wipe the floor with Wire's tech team with their pinky finger! Don't cry when you'll be shredded to pieces.
#Wire
All that Meta did was put out two statements with a consistent message - report by Wire is based on fabricated documents. Wire desperately tried to prove itself correct but ended-up digging an even bigger hole for itself. And today, Wire has thrown in the towel. And how!
Read 4 tweets
Oct 3, 2022
- BTW, when people crib about order qty for systems like LCH, please understand that production rate has to match the absorption rate with a Service.
- It takes time to create infra and more critically, trained manpower to operate & maintain a new system.
- Larger the existing+
+ pool, easier and faster to absorb a new system.
- Take the case of artillery - it has a huge manpower and infra pool to quickly absorb new guns.
- Plus, new guns while being more modern, are not radically different from earlier guns.
- Army Aviation Corps is in an +
+ expansion phase.
- Cheetah, Chetak, Dhruvs, Rudra and now LCH.
- There is only that much manpower available to milk and divert for new inductions and raising(s).
- I expect pilots from IA's Rudra squadrons to form nucleus of LCH induction.
- But manpower is limited and +
Read 4 tweets
Sep 17, 2022
- Here are some interesting points on the disengagement site discussed by @VishnuNDTV
- First, these Chinese posts are opposite PP15 in the side valley going north from Kugrang River.
- Its NOT in Gogra or Hot Springs region which have PP17A, PP17 and PP18
- Map in next tweet +
- Overview of the Chang-Chenmo Sector.
- You can see PP15&16, Chinese claim line (red) and location of the Chinese site under discussion.
- The LAC here is not in dispute here and this is the first time Chinese have created claim extending across their 1959 claim line and LAC +
+ Why were the Chinese acting antsy here?
- Because PP15 leads directly to upper reaches of Galwan river (blue line) which has large Chines presence.
- Chinese fear Indian attack along this axis.
- Forget direct assault; even Indian artillery placed in Kugrang Valley can +
Read 14 tweets
Sep 6, 2022
Future IT Hub?
- Given another episode of infra woes in Bangalore, questions are being asked, again, as to why no other city can emerge as the IT hub?
- Let me share with you a real world experience from my professional life, which I hope will answer this +
#bangalorerains
+ question to some extent.
- Many moons ago, I was consulting for a big developer, who for some reason had huge land bank in Mysore.
- A part of their leadership believed that given the proximity of Mysore to Bangalore, IT/ITES office demand will spill into Mysore as well.
+
+ Some others were skeptical and this is where my company came into picture.
- How do you address this question?
- Well, we devised a plan where we basically went and met a wide variety of IT/ITES companies in Bangalore and Mysore to take their opinion on Mysore as possible +
Read 15 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(