Thread by @yungneocon

Just a quick thread, perhaps troll bait, but it's just to hammer in a basic point: that state socialism does, on avg better than capitalism, & that capitalism is hegemonic now, doesn't undercut that state socialism wasn't very eco friendly, absolute speaking, either

Here's a scholarly article on the USSR copying unsustainable US agricultural practices
sci-hub.tw/https://www.js…

Here's an article on how Cuba's ecological situation is worsening as they've undone many of the agroecological gains they were forced to make in the 90s, largely by farmers returning to past ecological practices
clovekvtisni.cz/media/publicat…

I'm honestly embarrassed to even cite this rag, but I am doing so because it's a nominally 'socialist' source--suffice it to say, even I am skeptical of its rhetorical slant here, but alas socialist-alliance.org/alliance-voice…

JBF--a much better scholar--here gives a far more balanced account of the USSR, both heavily criticizing it AND praising it, including achievements of its academic ecologists
monthlyreview.org/2015/06/01/lat…

An article on sand mining, among the most destructive practices, 60% of which goes to construction in the PRC
e360.yale.edu/features/the-h…

On the costs of large scale hydro electric in the PRC
slu.edu/news/2018/sept…

Since this is left Twitter, I take it for granted that everyone can list off the usual memes--China's investment in renewables & nuclear, per capita emissions, Cuba's agroecological successes in the 90s, the WWF report on Cuba they've since renounced etc.

Before you cite the Carbon Majors report meme that 100 corporations produce 71% of emissions note that they list the DPRK coal ministry as 1 of them, and heavily blame China, Gazprom, Iran and Venezuela …b4d987d7c03fcdd1d.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/cms/reports/do…

You might think that as an anarchist, I'd be germane to their lumping of states, and their blaming of China, DPRK, Iran, & Venezuela, but as a social scientist, my first opposition is to total horseshit, which is what the Carbon Majors & 100 companies meme is.

Here's a biased report on Cuba's reversals of agricultural claims (altho primarily concerned w output rather than environment), I'm going to share a more positive one next
reuters.com/article/us-cub…

Here's a frank discussion of Cuba's true achievements in Agroecology, its lessons for the US, and its future challenges
elementascience.org/articles/10.15…

I want you to compare the People's Daily's coverage of ecology in the PRC, w the frank appraisals of the PRC's own scientists
peoplesworld.org/article/china-…

researchgate.net/profile/Hubace…

steadystate.org/wp-content/upl…

s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.d…

our-global-u.org/oguorg/en/down…

s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.d…

cnsjournal.org/wp-content/upl…

gesd.free.fr/minqilir.pdf

I link these four articles for an interesting reason. 3 out of 4 claim to be in favor of socialism & praising state socialism, however, ALL four variously acknowledge modernization is the source, that states require constant growth & that the AES track record wasn't so great

researchgate.net/profile/Desmon…

irows.ucr.edu/andrew/papers/…

sci-hub.tw/https://doi.or…

citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/downlo…

I end on some broader based theoretical & empirical perspectives, which address all the main memes. They show that modernization drives carbon, that militarization drives carbon, that central planning limits possible ecological downshift, and more.

Actually one more final thoughts
opus.lib.uts.edu.au/bitstream/1045…

I link these because they’re anti capitalist, pro socialist, anti imperialism & unequal ecological exchange & discuss w praise the usual things socialists cite as ecological examples, thus highlighting their stance is positive