Let's dive right into this discussion of negative interest rates policy (NIRP). Before we talk about the impact, let's talk about this paper issued by the IMF on:
Enabling Deep Negative Rates to Fight Recessions: A guide
I will read this w/ u & cover key topics like money.
As a rule, before I read a paper, I glance at the title, abstract, authors, & the organization publishing. The IMF - led by a European & multilateral - responsible for helping countries w/ fiscal management & capacity building. Legarde was head & now will be the ECB head.
How u read an academic paper: Skim through the title, abstract, look for thesis, look at table of content, go to the back and read the conclusion & then the body. W/o reading the entire paper, the thesis👉🏻 is TO ENABLE DEEP NEGATIVE RATES TO MAINTAIN THE POWER OF MONETARY POLICY.
We already know that: this is not a discussion of WHETHER one should ENABLE NEGATIVE RATES but A GUIDE OF HOW TO ENABLE NEGATIVE RATES. They made that decision already & this is just how to make it palatable for the public.
Now u know what WON'T BE in the paper & what will be.
So to actively read we must know the WHY to understand the HOW they will show u & what they WON'T SHOW U.
Okay, let's go. How is an academic paper structured? Usually abstract, after executive summary & then literature review to show that this is not coming out of left field.
The table summarizes neatly the literature review. Their review is sparse w/ NO ACADEMIC cited advocating what they are saying but some area related but not exactly. Eisler wrote in 1932 & then nothing & a bunch of people on abolishing cash lately. But used anyway for legitimacy.
Btw, if u think the literature review is sparse (qualitative legitimacy), then the paper has NO quantitative evidence on why this needs to be enabled or why anything they argue is empirically true.
But they tell u what this is - a GUIDE to ENABLE NIRP to MAINTAIN POWER OF CBs👈🏻
And they are not hiding the WHY of this paper: POLITICS. This word is used so often in the piece. Read the highlighted part about why this needs to happen (has nothing to do w/ effectiveness but politics): THE USE OF DEEP NEGATIVE RATES FOR A SHORT TIME HAS POLITICAL ADVANTAGES
So the WHY is here in plain sight: TO HELP CALM THE POLITICS OF NEGATIVE RATES. Yes, they wrote that. They made the decision before discussing whether NIRP & now publishing a GUIDE on how to CALM THE MASS & NORMALIZE NIRP.
Here are the steps to MITIGATE THE POLITICAL COSTS of implementing NIRP (yes, they wrote this):
a) Measuring markets' perception
b) Making the market aware of CB tools & can help manage associated side effects
c) CONVINCE MARKETS that the CB willing to use new tools.
Digest that
So after 6 pages of ranting, the authors have 4 charts on rates going down & the only charts u'll get for a while. No discussion of output, wealth, employment, wages. Nothing.
Then this on p8. Political costs are repeated in 2 paragraphs. Politics. This is what this is about.
History of thought on NIRP (there's none):
a) Gesell in 1916 - proposed requiring stamps to be purchased to paper money periodically
b) Goodfriend 2000 on stamped paper currency
c) Eisler depreciation mechanism for paper currency
d) Rogoff on ban cash
Authors then cite BLOGS!😱
Before we proceed to discuss approaches to ENABLE NIRP to maintain the power of monetary policy, let's talk about something important & key for everyone to understand: HOW MONEY IS CREATED & the role of central banks & banks so u know why EVERYONE should care (scared) about NIRP.
Pay attention. This part is key to the why NIRP will impact you.
Central banks need BANKS to transmit their policy objective to the real eco(households, firms). Do this 3 ways: set the price of money (interest rates), quantity (quantity of assets they purchase), & regulations.
Central banks can only INFLUENCE & can't force banks to lend according to their policy/political objectives (some do through window guidance eg PBOC & SBV). This is what economists like to call rule-based approach & should be based on some sort of inflation or employment rules.
Let's use the Fed: has a price target & stable employment. If it is below that target for a long period of time, the Fed can say it'll help via loosening financial condition by: loosen regulations, lower rates & buy assets
When the Fed cuts rates by 25bps to 2.25% that impacts u
When the Fed sets rates high, pays banks more to park $ & when it sets rate low, wants reduce banks' incentive to hold cash
Ur deposit at the bank is the banks' liabilities (banks borrow from u). When banks lend u $, that is a bank's assets. Diff is net interest income for banks
CBs can only influence via their toolbox & up for banks to allocate based on risk appetite. Why did the ECB lower deposit rates to -0.1% in 2014 (now -0.4%)? Frustrated w/ Euro banks not taking enuff risks & firms in Europe depend on banks for funding (US equity & bonds more key)
Markets expect deposit rates to turn even more negative & that means the ECB making it very expensive for banks to park cash w/ the ECB & so in the process forcing banks to take risks to improve profitability because banks CAN'T fully PASS ON NEGATIVE RATES TO RETAIL depositors.
Now that we roughly covered key ideas important for you to understand, let's get back to the paper. I will cover their 1st approach soon - the CLEAN APPROACH (trust me, not clean & they know it & call for more research to make it clean as some law prohibits it).
Notice that no where in this paper they call for more research on the effectiveness of NIRP or anything they propose. Words are just thrown out as if they are facts. No reason to hide the agenda either -> here to ENABLE NIRP to EMPOWER MONETARY POLICY.
Okay, clean approach. haha
Clean approach = tax on holding paper currency vs electronic currency. Basically a tax on CASH or putting a negative interest rate on paper currency interest rate (PCIR). Example: Fed set PCIR at -1%. That means that after 1 yr, that 100 cash is worth only 99. DEPRECIATES CASH
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Now u know what the clean approach is, u may ask, well, how does that help u losing $ on holding cash? Well, just does! Duh! Author said in 1 sentence: Negative PCIR makes it possible to stimulate investment & net exports as much as needed to revive the economy!
Just like that👌🏻
No empirical evidence. No charts. No studying of other countries that are without cash. Just like that. 1 sentence.
What about SIDE EFFECTS of the clean approach? Let me tell u, there are many! Author found 5! Yep! Lots of side effects & no support for why negative PCIR works👌🏻
We'll move on to the RENTAL FEE APPROACH (RFA). Let's not forget that the CLEAN APPROACH (CA) is a misnomer & actually NOT LEGAL. And so author says:
If central banks can find a legal way, then CA, but if THERE ARE LEGAL BARRIERS, then the RFA to enable deep negative rates🤗.Yep
Will continue with this thread tomorrow as I got morning meeting bright & early at 8am & need to hike the peak now. We're on page 20 btw in case u want to get a head start.
Thanks for reading w/ me📖🤓
Ready? Let's go, hope u're caught up w/ the Clean Approach & how that isn't actually clean 😬(legal issues, small detail 🤗).
Rental Fee Approach is a RENT payment on paper currency. Imagine Fed has -1% PCIR = Fed charges the banks 1% for taking paper currency from cash window👇🏻
Examples of Rent Approach:
a) Swiss National Bank (SNB) in 2014 NIRP imposes a charge on banks for excess paper currency withdrawals. Put it another way, imposes a negative rate only on the portion of the bank's reserves at the SNB that exceeds a certain threshold 👈🏻
b) BOJ
BOJ in 2016 followed the SNB & adjusts up the portion of bank reserves to which negative rates apply 1-for-1 when bank exchanges its CB reserves for cash. The BOJ only subjects the bank's own holding of paper currency but not include paper currency the bank passes on to customer.
Notice that the authors see this as a short-coming & said: THERE IS NO REASON IT NEEDS TO STOP THERE!
Because the there would be: NO LIMIT TO HOW LOW THE MARGINAL PAPER CURRENCY INTEREST COULD GO😱
Yep, wrote that. No explanation. Next, we got PAGES OF SIDE EFFECT. True story
What u've learned so far:
a) Authors don't bother to argue WHETHER NIRP is needed but rather we need to ENABLE NIRP to empower monetary policy
b) DON'T HAVE (care to) EVIDENCE WHY NIRP SHOULD BE ENABLED
c) But defo knows plenty of side effects. Pages & pages of side effects 😱👇🏻
The 3 side effects of RFA:
a) BANK PROFITABILITY PROBLEM😱
b) Cash-rental-fee-pass-through problem (yep mouthful) but means BANKS CAN'T PASS ON NEGATIVE RATES TO RETAIL DEPOSITORS w/o risking them taking $ out😱
c) the 'Gresham's Law' Problem😱
Don't worry, they have "solutions"
Let's go through these "solutions" (by that I mean either wishful thinking or bending reality or proposing solutions that are HORRIBLE FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON & the only people benefiting are, gosh I don't know who benefits).
Ready? I promise it is good & worth u reading w/ me.
"Solutions" of NIRP:
*Somehow banks' profitability improves due to the valuation effect of banks w/ a positive maturity gap experience capital gains as long-term assets have capital gains? Urgh🧙🏻♀️
*DEFAULT CHANNEL - NIRP improves firms' profitability & improves NPL 🧙🏻♀️
Yay!!! 🥳
*Fees & commission income channel - AUTHORS THINK THAT WHEN INTEREST RATES ARE LOWER, FEES & COMMISSION INCOME TEND TO RISE & IMPROVES BANK'S PROFITABILITY
Wuat?😮
*Net interest income channel - authors didn't have anything good to say & concede NIRP is bad. But didn't stop there
Authors think NIRP improves banks' profitability (3 channels ex 1, which their wishful thinking couldn't ignore that fact that it doesn't work).
Conclude: EMPIRICAL LITERATURE (as opposed to FACTS that banks' profitability is DOWN) shows BENIGN EFFECTS OF NEGATIVE RATES ON BANKS
Wait, but I haven't gotten to their "solutions", which should frighten u. Ready? They propose:
Banks modify existing deposit contracts to CHARGE FEES & INHIBIT CONVERSION OF ELECTRONIC $ TO CASH.
Charge a fee for a cash withdrawals at ATM machines. Put a limit on withdrawal 😱
Instead of going through all, let's look at this table on the SIDE-EFFECTS of RFA & tools to manage the side effect. Notice that the benefits FEW & the side effects plenty:
Bank profitability😱
Cash arbitrage😱
Pass-through of RFA😱
Reduced CIRCULATION OF $ 😱
To name a few.
Food for thought & all here in the table. To ENABLE DEEP NEGATIVE RATES, the RFA have 5 problems & 5 BAD SOLUTIONS that are very bad for HOUSEHOLDS
To achieve the political agenda & we're only 31/89 here, authors have identified a lot of problems & proposed few good solutions👌🏻.
Notice that nowhere here where they PAUSE a second WHETHER NIRP is worth the costs. This paper entire objective is:
Enabling Deep Negative Rates to Fight Recessions: A Guide
Don't bother to discuss the impact on households - ORDINARY PEOPLE who don't understand NIRP anyway 👇🏻
Read the comments for this FT article. Not a single person is applauding the ECB's NIRP. Many of the comments are very astute. The review for the ECB effort is overwhelmingly NEGATIVE & so the ECB will:
DOUBLE DOWN thanks to support from the IMF et al👌🏻
Draghi in July '12, "Within our mandate, the ECB is ready to do whatever it takes to preserve the euro. And believe me, it will be enough."
7 yrs later: CPI 1%, GDP weak, risks piling as the ECB force banks to take more risks to preserve profitability..
That's not the worst part
The worst part about this is: the central bank is about to DOUBLE DOWN on this. People are now expecting deposit rates to go LOWER. The ECB to introduce tiering to help w/ the side-effects it created. And the ECB will have to change its 33% cap on ownership of govies to raise APP
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"The new approach is rooted in a core belief in Beijing: that Trump is fundamentally transactional, not ideological. Policymakers believe they can use Trump’s zest for a deal to neutralize the China hawks in his administration."
But Trump is a trade hawk. He has had the same view since the 1980s no matter what the "experts" have said. He is ideological in this point of view. He sees manufacturing as key to economic strength, the same as Xi actually.
Interesting to look at Xi and Trump meeting to compare Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt meeting at Yalta. Stalin had UK spies telling him all about the "red lines" for the UK and the US. So he came to the meeting totally prepared. Stalin was willing to give the US the "red lines" but in return, he took everything else, including territories in Japan, a foothold into Asia via China, and finally Eastern Europe, including Poland, where Churchill was busy drinking and talking too much to achieve much. This paved ways for Mao and the Communists to emerge in China. And the rest is history.
So does Trump have "red lines" that Xi know? If so, to get that, what would Xi ask in return? Interesting to see this playing out. Irrespective, we are entering strategic decoupling at great speed deal or no deal.
Another interesting fact to compare Franklin vs Stalin meeting was to look at Xi vs Trump's background. Trump came from wealth and has pretty had a pretty cushy life vs Xi whose father was part of the founding members of the communist party but was purged from the CCP and sent to work in factory. Xi essentially suffered as a child and teenager and grew up in China's tough decades.
Meanwhile, Trump grew up when the US dominated the world & still does but going through a tough transition. And so they both see the past and future in a different lenses.
Still, I think to think that Trump is only transactional and not ideological is not entirely true. He fundamentally believe in manufacturing and strategic autonomy and sees the US globalist agenda as a threat to national security, especially dependency on China for US defense supply chain. Lighthizer in the latest FT lunch interview also commented the same.
First, we have to realize that Vietnam went through two stages of FDI.
The first stage is driven by NORTH ASIANS that are basically fed up with geopolitical tensions and too much competition from China (think Japan in 2010 w/ rare earth and South Korea with THAAD but even before) and so what do they do?
They MOVE their production base slowly out of China into where? Well, for South Korea, it was Vietnam.
Samsung Electronics moved into Vietnam in the early 2000s to the point now more than 50% of their stuff is exported out of Vietnam. But not only. Many other Korean stuff.
Also Japanese etc. So what you see in the telecom here is not CHINESE PHONES but KOREAN PHONES.
The second wave of course is Chinese outward FDI themselves and also increasingly EUROPEANS.
Anyway, let's talk about phones.
For phones, the key thing I want to show here is that while Vietnam exports have grown a lot, over time, the IMPORTS of that have DECLINED.
And they have declined everywhere. People that look at China all day long think Vietnam only trades with China.
No, Vietnam is a relatively big trader for its small economic size so it TRADES WITH MANY ECONOMIES, the US and also South Korea etc.
Long story short here is that Vietnam is importing less of inputs while exporting more and that tells you that overtime supply chains are DEEPENING THERE FOR THAT ITEM. And it's not transhipment.
But what's RISING in imports FROM EVERYONE? WELL, capital intensive stuff. Vietnam is importing a lot of machinery etc from EVERYWHERE.
Note that it imports a lot from South Korea and Japan, Taiwan etc as well as China.
Did you know that Vietnam's Q3 GDP grew 8.2%YoY and Q2 was 8%? It is one of the few countries in Asia where manufacturing share of GDP is rising even as Chinese imports flood the market. Why?
“In contrast to other countries that are stuck in political paralysis, Vietnam has moved very swiftly to secure lower tariffs and reform its economy to increase productivity and competitiveness,” @Trinhnomics , a senior economist at Natixis SA, said. “This has allowed Vietnam to emerge as a winner under Trump 2.0 despite high tariffs because it’s favored as a foreign direct investment destination for those wanting to diversify away from worsening US-China tensions.”
Look at manufacturing across Asia and what do you see? Its down for India, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia.
But not Vietnam. It's up. The fact of the matter is Vietnam faces a widening trade deficit with China but at the same time it has turned that into an overall trade surplus, which means that Vietnam value add has risen over time.
And you can see it clearly in its manufacturing share of GDP or global market share. Has been slowly steady climb.
This year, in 2025 manufacturing output surged 9.92% in the first nine months of 2025 from a year earlier, with around 77% of companies surveyed by the National Statistics Office saying export orders were higher or at the same level, a sign that US buyers are shrugging off the tariff hit for now.
What is Vietnam doing right? Well, first, the most important thing is that it wants manufacturing above all else. Vietnamese people need formal jobs and by prioritizing that, Vietnam is now focusing on the next leg of development, which is how to ADD MORE VALUE.
Blink and you will miss the biggest reform story of Asia. Vietnam literally redrew its map & made one of the biggest structural reforms in decades.
Rare earth is in the news again. Of course it is not rare, just that you gotta dig deep and then obvs process it. That entire process is polluting, costly and the output itself doesn't yield a lot.
That's how China has captured the market. It's willing to do polluting working and basically sells more not a lot. But having cornered that market, it also sees it as leverage, which it has used since 2010 (with Japan). The weaponization of supply chain is what we call it.
The free market economics of it makes sense for people to just leave it to China to do rare earth & then focus on the more market profitable business. Until, well, dun, dun dun.
So how should a firm or government view rare earth? Should you go and pay HIGHER price than what the Chinese rare earths are going for to then secure resilience of supply chain?
Most say, well, "Nah." That is a costly move because well, others will outcompete you with cheaper Chinese inputs while you go dig and refine your rare-earth magnets. Not an economically worthwhile endeavor.
But not everyone has taken that decision. Here is a story of a company that didn't: General Motors.
Here I summarize the great reporting of the WSJ Jon Emont and Christopher Otts.
As you know, we have known this issue for a long time & Japan knew about it since 2010. So the Japanese usually have about 1 year of this stockpile, just in case. Not the Americans.
The car industry is pretty dependent on rare-earth magnets. GM decided that Covid shocks, which left it with semiconductor shortage, that it should secure non-Chinese rare earth magnets.
This sort of decision takes years to bear fruit so it is one with risks. Why? Well, your competitors can buy cheaper Chinese rare earth while you are trying to get more expensive non-Chinese.
Here we go, as I'll go on TV soon with @JoumannaTV to discuss data, let's take a look at China September trade data that just came out.
September exports rose 8.3%YoY in USD and imports increased 7.4%YoY.
Year-to-date, exports grew 6.1% while imports declined -1.1%YoY.
By destination, China exports to the US fell -16.9% but to Asia rising rapidly.
Exports to India rose 12.9% and India deficit with China is accelerating, with imports not just intermediates for production but also final consumer goods.
Shipment to ASEAN rose 14.7% with fastest growth to Thailand and Vietnam (+22.5% and 22.3%, respectively). The sharp increase of shipment reflect supply chain diversification but also rising imports for domestic demand in ASEAN that also poses challenges to domestic industries.
Exports to the EU rose 8.2% with shipment to Germany increasing +10.5%.
Interestingly, China exports to Russia has fallen this year by -11.3% as Russia puts up curbs to some Chinese exports.
China trade surplus in September:
#1 EU 22.9
#2 USA 22.8bn
#3 ASEAN 17.2bn
#4 India 10.3bn