Dear @DavidAFrench the answer to your question is quite simple. (1) The black church’s Christian identity is grounded in the Old Testament God who liberates the creation, evangelicals begin with Paul and *then* Jesus who’s trying to save people from creation. (2) Eschatology...
(2) Eschatology: evangelicals are still basically fundamentalist and premillennial. The black church’s eschatology is more amillennial (like the Lutherans). (3) Evangelicals are lamenting the loss of a cultural power/influence, esp. in the South, that the black church never had.
Evangelicals in America have never viewed themselves in exile. The Black church always identifies more with exilic Israel than individual Paul-ergo, the black church orients itself around a theology of suffering/hope. Evangelicals, a theology individual salvation/social power.
Finally, so, when you lose social power, you think the world is coming to an end and you start twisting the Bible to make 2 Chron 7:14 about America when it’s not. Spend a year in a black church and you’ll see the difference. Listen to @edeweysmith@pastoremase and @johnfaisonsr
Much, much more I could say.....I wish more evangelicals knew the theology of the black beyond King, Douglass, and Washington.
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One of the largest influences on traditional black church music during slavery was the Scottish Hebrides Gaelic Lined-Out Psalm singing tradition. The Scots-Irish & enslaved blacks were so integrated as “lower-class” people that slaves learned & adapted lined-out Scottish forms.
This is what the original Scottish Gaelic Psalm singing sounded like.
Lined-out Scottish forms emerged in contexts where hymn books were not available. This tradition arrived with the Scots-Irish in Appalachia and across the Deep South. In fact, the Scots introduced the slaves to something called, “fried chicken.” The rest is history…
Evangelicals are gullible because they lust after social power and the influence of people "in high places." The GOP has been using white evangelicals as a political pawn to maintain power since the 1970s. Donald Trump is signaling that he could not care less about evangelicals.
Revivalist evangelicals, for some reason, were led to believe that being brought into the "halls of power" would influence America's faith, morals, and politics. The black church did not fall for this evangelical approach, given evangelical's history on race during Jim Crow.
Donald Trump's GOP does not care about evangelicals because they know that, no matter what, conservative evangelicals, are not going to vote for Joe Biden. The democrats have moved too far left on social/moral issues so the GOP has conservative evangelical voters locked in!
Is “Christian Masculinity/Raising Boys” the new $$ hustle? This guy wants to charge y’all $65 to teach y’all how to have friends and conduct a rite-of-passage programs for your sons. Dads, you don’t need this. I can tell you how to do this for free! 😂😂😂
You guys are not helpless children. You can figure out how to have fun with each other & your sons on your own terms. No website needed! 😎 1) How to have friends: do stuff together on a regular basis (work, fun, study, listen) and “encourage each other daily.”
2) Rite-of-passage has three ingredients: a) separation from an environment of ease, comfort, and familiarity. b) initiation—introduce challenging obstacles to overcome that requires boys to find new strengths and demands encouragement from peers and elders. Meaningful + fun!
One of the biggest differences between the PCA and the PC(USA), is that the PCA is full of pastors like Rev. Zachary Garris who believe that the transatlantic slave trade is supported by the Bible. He’s a graduate of Reformed Theological Seminary in Jackson, MS.
Rev. Garris only believes that the abuses of slavery were wrong, not chattel slavery itself. This raises several questions. 1) How did he graduate from RTS holding these views? and 2) How did he pass his ordination exams holding these views?
Currently, less than 2% of the pastors in the PCA are African American. Why on earth would anyone encourage black men to pursue being a pastor in a denomination where pastors still believe there was no difference between OT & NT slavery and the trans-Atlantic slave trade?
Therapist Jim Brillon on “Mother and Son Enmeshment.” You’ll never hear a church leader discuss this. We talk too much about “father wounds” but lots of young men fail to launch because of their mothers. This is a huge trend in the South. “If mama ain’t happy, no one is…”
I’ve had male college students over the years who had moms that required their sons to talk them every night. True story. These were Christian moms from conservative churches. Many moms look to their sons to get the emotional support they need & don’t have from their husbands.
Enmeshed moms make their sons their surrogate emotional boyfriends. The overbearing, emotionally enmeshed mother can produce sons who are extremely misogynistic or red-pillish because the boys make a silent vow to never be emotionally controlled by a woman ever again.
Thoughts? Can we stop whining about young Christian guys following Peterson, Rogan, Tate, etc. These men aren’t a problem. Neither is YouTube. The problem is that the other men in the lives of teens aren’t compelling. Youth group/Christian schools infantilize boys with moralism.
Also, the problem is that many of their own fathers aren’t speaking greatness into the core issues in their son’s lives. Fathers aren’t empowered or encouraged because, for some silly reason, we think teens need to listen to a 24-year-old who is “cool” and “fun.”🤦🏽♂️
Peterson, Rogan, Tate, etc. say hard things and they don’t coddle lads. They’ve all tapped into the fact the boys want significance, ambition, & achievement. All good things! Sadly, many Christian lads are told that greatness is missions & church work. “Make your life count!”