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Aug 21, 2019 8 tweets 2 min read Read on X
1. This is a good thread and inspires some thoughts on Leo Strauss, James Burnham, the Simpsons, Lisa Simpson, Jebediah Springfield, & Carl Jung.
2. One response to the problem @mattyglesias outlines (that any true history of a nation's founding would have to confront horrific crimes) is to myth-make. This is often done in an unconscious spirit but there are also major strands of conservative thought that advocates it
3. I think Leo Strauss' emphasis on esoteric/exoteric distinction, along with the Platonic tradition of the Noble Lie explains why Strauss encouraged his students to write edifying studies of the founders & Locke, even though Strauss' own heart was with ancients.
4. James Burnham, a Trostskyist turned W.F. Buckley mentor, came at politics from a different tradition (Machiavellianism) than Strauss. But Burnham also (influenced by Georges Sorel idea of social mythology) believed fictions were needed to hold society together.
5. Burnham, Congress and the American Tradition, 1959: "In ancient times, before the illusions of science had corrupted traditional wisdom, the founders of Cities were known to be gods or demigods." In other words, good societies are bound together by mythical foundings.
6. All these issues were played out in the great but problematic Simpson's episode Lisa the Iconoclast. Lisa discovers that town founder Jebediah Springfield was in fact a vile pirate. Town resists her discovery so she embraces the lie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_…
7. This is tangential but a large strand of rightwing thought in last century (the line from Jung to Campbell to Peterson) has pursued the argument that myths are essential for social life, It's not the natural law argument of past but explicit embrace of myth.
8. But contra Strauss, Burnham & Lisa Simpson, I'm not sure that a noble lie is necessary. It's my democratic conviction that people are smart enough to have a complicated patriotism, that acknowledges both the achievements and crimes of the past.

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1. So I have a few thoughts on "heritage Americans," Nathanial Hawthorne, witch-hunting, Thomas Pynchon, Calvinism, strange feuds, the Daughters of the American Revolution, FDR, the moral responsibilities of nationalism & (lest we forget) Jack Kirby.
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1. I think this post is Yglesias' response to critics who bring up his support of Iraq war. The implicit argument here is "sure, I supported the Iraq war, but most people did." The deception here is one of omission. Yglesias specifically supported the war out of crackpot neo-con belief it would allow Israel to have greater leverage over the Palestinians (as they said at time "the road to Jerusalem is through Baghdad"). That is not why most USA citizens in 2003 supported war, which would out of misguided deference to elite in moment of nationalist panic & anger.Image
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2. Further, Yglesias' support of Iraq war is inextricable from his general xenophobia and belief that non-American life is not a matter of concern (a view that continues to undergrid his analysis of Israel/Palestine). This photo is, as they say, a tell.
3. Further, when he supported the Iraq War, Yglesias also explicitly called for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine (using the standard euphemism of Revisionist Zionism of "transfer"). This was not a mainstream USA position and was at that timer rejected even by Republicans such as Bush. Yglesias was well to the right of the Bush administration.Image
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1. This is right but I'd go father. Yglesias is quite literally the grandson of Stalinists. He is here, in a fascinating display of atavism, replicating the classic apparatchik logic "it is right to be wrong and wrong to be right."
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3. The standard Stalinist tactic was simply silence and denial, along with blaming any problem with the system on outside forces (capitalist encirclement, Trotskyite wreckers). All of these tactics found replication in the way Yglesias has responded to Israel's horrific onslaught in Gaza and the West Bank, now culminating in a state-created famine (shades of the 1930s).
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