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Aug 27, 2019 14 tweets 4 min read Read on X
I am among those trying to figure out Trump’s China trade strategy.

Like most I am confused. Trump’s latest escalation was formally a response to China’s latest round of tariffs. But China’s tariffs, in my view, basically confirmed that China has run out of good targets.

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The incremental costs to the U.S. of the trade war right now are essentially coming from Trump’s own tariffs. And I suspect that undermines the United States' leverage.

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UBS thinks that China added about $10b in new products to its tariff lists, so its tariffs now cover $100b rather than say $90b of its $150b in imports from the U.S. (based the Chinese number for imports from the U.S.)

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China also raised the tariff rate a bit, but that’s largely irrelevant. China has already proved, tariff or no tariff, it can shut down certain U.S. imports if it wants to.

(Crude supposedly wasn't hit by tariffs last fall ... )

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Remember that in 3 of the 4 largest goods exporting sectors, the market for U.S. exports is essentially China’s state. The state airlines. The state oil and gas companies. And the old state ag and oilseed import monopoly. Gives China some unique tools (like it or not)

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Autos are the exception: they are sold to private buyers. & China did raise its tariffs there – but that cannot have surprised the Trump administration.

China lifted the auto tariffs it imposed last fall to help facilitate the negotiations. They were an obvious target.

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Basically, China had to go back to the sectors it tariffed heavily after the initial U.S. tariffs last summer/ fall – it didn’t come up with any new targets. The incremental impact on (already modest) U.S. goods exports to China will likely be minimal.

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The Trump Administration by contrast has basically doubled its total tariff on China in the last month – going from 25% on $250b ($62b) to 30% on $250b and 15% on $270b ($112b). The just pay it cost of the China tariff has increased to around a half point of U.S. GDP.

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And by definition, if the USTR picked its tariffs rationally, the last round of tariffs will have the highest cost to the U.S. – China is basically the sole supplier (for now) of most of the goods on the final $170b (December) list.

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Of course, with time (as Paul Krugman notes), firms will adjust. But until there is clarity on whether or not the tariffs are permanent, such investments don’t make sense. That’s a big part of the damaging uncertainty.

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The thing is, China likely knows this – the easiest path for Trump give the economy a bit of a boost in an election year is, in a sense, to declare victory in the trade war and come home. (h/t @geoffreygertz)

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@geoffreygertz Reversing the last two rounds of U.S. tariff escalation would likely put about a quarter point of GDP back into consumers’ pockets in an election year ...

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@geoffreygertz Bottom line: President Trump obviously thinks he gains leverage by his willingness to escalate and hit back hard. But that isn’t at all clear to me.

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@geoffreygertz Last note. There are much more advanced ways of estimating the cost of tariffs than the "just pay it" cost. But a lot of them end up converging toward the simple back of the envelope calculation tax hike impact. Offsetting effects and all.

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Jan 9
Taiwan's surplus is going through the bloody roof

$15b in December works out to $175b a year annualized
the surplus in 2024 was already large -- yet it was "only" around $50b

AI bubble or not, that is a ton cash

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for the year, Taiwan's surplus will more than double -- from ~ $50b to over $100b. and the q4 surplus annualized is WAY higher, at around $175b. That is a crazy number for a country that already had a bit external surplus and has a lot of investment income

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In a sane world, the massive increase in Taiwan's trade surplus would lead to a stronger Taiwan dollar

But that isn't what is happening. The lifers, with $700b in foreign assets, are hedging less & that generates a flow that pushes the TWD down

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Jan 8
Ok, it is clear what happened in the October trade data

Imports of pharma collapsed, bring the pharma trade deficit WAY down (reversing the q1 front running); exports of gold soared, generating a big gold surplus

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Net all the pharma noise out and imports remain flattish (up a bit in October v September) at a high level and exports are more or less flat too -- maybe there is a tiny upward trend since May but it is tiny

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The no pharma or gold trade deficit is down a bit v 2025 (there was a bit of front running in other categories too -- see Jan v March) but actually up a bit v September

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Jan 5
The appreciation of the yuan (against the dollar) in the second half of 2025 -- and particularly in December -- has attracted a bit of attention.

(h/t to @Mike_Weilandt for the chart)

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It isn't like the yuan's appreciation against the dollar has been particularly fast. But it has been steady. And a predictable no volatility appreciation that exceeds the loss from the rate differential is bound to get attention

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It will be interesting to see the numbers for fx settlement in December. The number of reports of activity in the market (dollar buying to limit appreciation) by state banks in say Bloomberg's fx coverage picked up in December.

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Jan 5
Saudi Arabia's q3 current account numbers are out, and they -- unsurprisingly -- showed an ongoing deficit.

My rough estimate for Saudi Arabia's current account break even (the oil price that results in external balance) continues to be over $90 a barrel

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A reminder -- the external break even is calculating using reported oil export revenues, the non-oil current account, and net exports (my numbers there are dependent on getting regular updates from @Rory_Johnston )

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@Rory_Johnston i.e. Saudi Arabia needs $250 billion a year in export receipts from oil to balance its current account -- and that is much more than it gets with oil at ~ $60 a barrel

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Jan 4
There is a lot of talk -- not the least from the US Administration -- about the windfall from Venezuela's oil. It is worth doing a bit of (boring) quantification.

Bottom line: it isn't going to pay for everything ...

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Venezuela's oil is heavy and sour, so it trades at a discount to sweet light.

2024 production was 0.9 mbd. Domestic consumption isn't zero. To generous, assume 0.75 mbd at day at $50 a barrel -- that generates $14 billion a year in exports.

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Industry experts (@Big_Orrin ) think the upper bound on how much additional production could be generated if the international oil service giants came in to revitalize the fields is ~ 1 mbd, or a ~$18b

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Jan 2
Interesting comments from South Korea's Rhee (central bank governor). Seems like there is a level of the won that is too weak even for Korea ...

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Rhee also emphasized the foreign exchange implications of Korea's investment pledge (part of its "deal" with Lutnick and Trump). Rhee "vowed to oppose any US investment decisions that could threaten the stability of the foreign-exchange market"

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I share Governor Rhee's misgivings -- explicitly relying on Korea (and Japan and perhaps Taiwan) to finance investment in the US -- if it actually happens (incentives aren't well aligned) likely implies accepting continued trade imbalances ...

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