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ID Miscellany|physical Exam|Signs|Humanities #idmesh

๐™๐™š๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™š๐™ง๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™ง๐™š-๐™ฅ๐™ช๐™ก๐™จ๐™š ๐™™๐™ž๐™จ๐™จ๐™ค๐™˜๐™ž๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ (๐™๐™–๐™œ๐™š๐™ฉ'๐™จ ๐™จ๐™ž๐™œ๐™ฃ)

1/11
For every 1 deg F rise in temp, HR incrementally increases by 8-10 bpm (๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ฎ๐“ซ๐“ฎ๐“ป๐“ถ๐“ฎ๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ฝ๐“ฎ๐“ปโ€™๐“ผ ๐“ป๐“พ๐“ต๐“ฎ)

academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/โ€ฆ
2/11
This is a physical sign that may have become less popular now because of more sophisticated methods of diagnosing infections.

But knowing its application can expand our clinical reasoning toolkit and enhance bedside diagnosis and teaching.
3/11
There are a couple of ways to determine whether ๐™๐™š๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™š๐™ง๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™ง๐™š-๐™ฅ๐™ช๐™ก๐™จ๐™š ๐™™๐™ž๐™จ๐™จ๐™ค๐™˜๐™ž๐™–๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ is present.

โ–ช๏ธ using a math equation to derive a cut-off HR below which, a diagnosis of "relative bradycardia" can be made

โ–ช๏ธ applying a set of criteria
4/11
Ostergaard, et al proposed a calculation to determine โ€œrelativeโ€ bradycardia" -- a pulse rate lower than 95% CI for the patientโ€™s temp (determined among 673 patients ๐Ÿ‘‡):

Men: if HR <10.2 x T0C โ€“ 333
Women: if HR <11 x T0C โ€“ 359

sciencedirect.com/science/articlโ€ฆ ImageImage
5/11
On the other hand, Cunha proposed a more permissive criteria to determine relative bradycardia ๐Ÿ‘‡, based on:

โ–ช๏ธ a set of inclusion/exclusion criteria
โ–ช๏ธ set of expected HRs per given temp

sciencedirect.com/science/articlโ€ฆ Image
6/11
Whatever method you use, once you determine that โ€œrelative bradycardiaโ€ is present, you can look at a list and be familiar with the many conditions (infectious and non-infectious) that it has been traditionally associated with ๐Ÿ‘‡

sciencedirect.com/science/articlโ€ฆ Image
7/11
The exact sensitivity and specificity of the Fagetโ€™s sign is unknown. But data seems to show its diagnostic value in the following infections:

1โƒฃ Legionella
2โƒฃ Chlamydia
3โƒฃ Salmonella typhi (typhoid fever)
4โƒฃ Dengue
8/11
Among close to 700 patients, relative bradycardia had no predictive value regarding most likely infection but found only in specific diseases:

โ–ช๏ธ typhoid fever (but NOT non-typhi Salmonella)
โ–ช๏ธ Legionella & Chlamydia pneumonia (but NOT Mycoplasma)

sciencedirect.com/science/articlโ€ฆ
9/11
Case-control study (N=160) in Japan, the presence of relative bradycardia was diagnostic of typhoid fever (OR 11.7, LR+ 1.72).

journals.plos.org/plosone/articlโ€ฆ
10/11
Case control study (N=70) in Singapore, relative bradycardia was a significant feature of dengue but not other causes of infection (p < 0.001))

wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/13โ€ฆ
11/11
So next time you see a febrile patient (e.g. patient coming w/ CAP, returned traveler), try to see if you can apply the ๐™๐™–๐™œ๐™š๐™ฉ'๐™จ ๐™จ๐™ž๐™œ๐™ฃ.

Has this sign ever been useful in your practice? Tell us about it. @DocWoc71 @BradCutrellMD @CarlosdelRio7 @PaulSaxMD @TxID_Edu

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๐™๐™€๐™‘๐™€๐™ ๐™‹๐˜ผ๐™๐™๐™€๐™๐™‰๐™Ž: ๐˜ผ ๐™‡๐™Š๐™Ž๐™ ๐˜ผ๐™๐™?

Great! Three quarters find inquiring about fever patterns still useful. We will review some of the most important fever patterns.

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