@Hammertonhal And it's not just VG's book that especially Safechuck used as source material. He also used the other allegations before them. "Pattern" - guilters might claim. Except it would make MJ an extremely patternless abuser. Let's take the porn claims, for example.
@Hammertonhal Putting it in the chronological order of when the abuses supposedly happened:
Safechuck - the most graphic kind of porn (incl. child porn), movies, books, magazines
Robson - magazines and books (no cp claim)
Francia, Chandler - none
Gavin - magazines (no books or movies or cp)
Safechuck - the most graphic kind of porn (incl. child porn), movies, books, magazines
Robson - magazines and books (no cp claim)
Francia, Chandler - none
Gavin - magazines (no books or movies or cp)
@Hammertonhal This way it is very patternless and like with the sexual acts it actually seems to deescalate from more graphic porn to milder or none, rather than how it happens in reality pedophiles, which is a gradual escalation over time.
@Hammertonhal However if we put them in the order of when the allegations were made we can clearly see an escalation pattern - only not on the accused's part, but the accusers taking the allegations made before them and escalating them further:
@Hammertonhal Chandler, Francia - no porn claim
Gavin finds MJ's magazines when he is not home and includes them in his allegations (no books or movies though)
Gavin finds MJ's magazines when he is not home and includes them in his allegations (no books or movies though)
@Hammertonhal Wade, who in 2005 was shown on the stand by the prosecution both MJ's books and magazines, includes both of them (no cp claim though)
@Hammertonhal James - includes all of the above and escalates it further claiming CP (the first and only accuser to do so - besides, yes, Victor Gutierrez). He is also the first and only to claim that MJ made sex tapes of him. So James escalated the claims to their absolute max.
@Hammertonhal Similarly with the alcohol claims - only Gavin and James claims such a thing. You can tell that James took absolutely everything from previous allegations and VG's book and threw them altogether.
@Hammertonhal He even seemed to have taken inspiration from other allegations. Eg. he never claimed the sex tape thing until the LN media tour, which was shortly after the R. Kelly allegations were in the news featuring sex tape claims. Suddenly he made that claim too.
@Hammertonhal Thing is both the porn claims and alcohol claims originate from Gavin. An accuser about whom even many haters admit among themselves that they don't believe him.
@Hammertonhal But if Gavin's allegations are not true (and they are not), it is even more interesting that elements of it (porn, alcohol, alarm bell as an important factor etc) found their way to Wade and James's allegations. Just shows how they constructed their stories.
@Hammertonhal That MJ used alcohol to "groom" victims is actually claimed ONLY by Gavin and James. No other accuser claims that. Not even Wade, who showed surprise in MJ drinking alcohol even in 2008 when they last met, because as he said: "that was a new to me".
@Hammertonhal So does MJ make Safechuck drink alcohol in around 1990 but then no other accuser for another 13 years, only to make Gavin drink alcohol? That would be a very patternless abuser. Or is it more likely that James simply took elements of previous allegations to construct his own?
@Hammertonhal And let's not forget that Gavin is totally discredited. So much that even many haters don't believe him. But the alcohol thing was heavily featured in his claim ( it were separate charges). We all remember how the media loved to go on about "Jesus Juice" and all.
@Hammertonhal So these claims then suddenly also pop up in Safechuck's allegations. Based on a heavily discredited accuser's allegations.
