This is about examining modern public claims about the ancient world, and trying to untangle the history from them.
Bad Ancient began as a teaching exercise to encourage students to see the use of the ancient world in everyday arenas: politics, advertising, TV, video games. By picking out incorrect uses, or bad examples, we began to discuss their purpose:
Why do they use bad ancient history? What purpose does it serve? What intrinsic value do these mistakes hold in the modern world? I found posts began to attract queries for further information - how is it wrong? Why would they say it if it is wrong? What does the evidence say,etc
So now the concept grows beyond compiling a fun list, as contributors try to offer explanations, or at least explore what the evidence says in short snappy answers. If you have any examples you want looking at, send them in or post them on #badancient
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Watching the recent scenes in the U.S.A. we saw the Spartan iconography once again. So, if you are wondering what a Spartan may have made of such an event, let's take a look 1/10
First things first, #molonlabe is not a thing. Leonidas did not say it, and Spartans did not agree with citizens or anyone else bearing arms around the city . . . what if the helots got hold of them! 2/10
Next, Sparta was not a democracy - you did not really get a say on who was to be the figure head of the sate (the two kings). If you did challenge it, you better be a great military commander like Lysander, AND have a good oracle proclamation to back it up! 3/10
2,499 years ago, approximately #OTD, the straits between the Greek mainland and the island of Salamis became the site of one of the most famous naval battles in history.
Have you ever wondered what actually happened? Follow @Roelkonijn and I for yet another thread 1/lots
As you know from previous threads, the Persian forces had taken Themopylai and their navy had survived the battle at Artemision.
Xerxes’ forces moved south, through Boiotia and into Attika. Here they burned Athens and prepared to deal with the fleet moored at Salamis. 2/
So, what did that Greek resistance look like?
For what is the most famous battle in Athenian history (on par only with Marathon), we must have some reliable information surely? Surely?!
If you enjoyed the 4 day tweet-a-thon with myself and @Roelkonijn then see all of them here in this thread of threads looking at the battles of Thermopylae and Artemisium, the Spartan mirage, and common myths about the Persians:
The myths around Thermopylai often rely on broader misconceptions about ancient Sparta.
Well, we can't have that can we?! Come along with @Roelkonijn and me, for another thread looking at 12 key myths about the Spartan culture, and their army 1/16
Myth #1: Spartans were professional soldiers.
The big one! This comes from Xenophon's description of Lykurgus banning Spartiates from having a job.
He doesn't actually say anything about them soldiering which, you know, is a job! Seem more like 'professional citizens' 2/
*CW: Infanticide*
Myth #2: Spartans killed imperfect babies by throwing them off a mountain.
2,499 years ago, approximately #OTD, a more interesting battle took place off the coast of Thermopylai - the naval battle of Artemision. Unlike Thermopylai, this one actually mattered.
It is not a well-known battle, so why not follow @Roelkonijn and I for yet another thread 1/18
Was this a united Greek fleet, in support of Leonidas' troops on land, standing against the Persian enemy: West vs East, good vs bad, freedom vs oppression?
No, not really
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The Greek fleet was made up of just under 300 ships, half were from Athens alone.
In total, only 14 city-states were present. 14!!! Out of what, about 1000? 3/
Interesting blog, Athenian armies don't often get this kind of attention! Although, the mass levy (pandemei) raises more questions. We cannot assume that they maintained the equal tribal sizes. If all men were called, then the deme of Archanae had 3,000 hoplites to join up
If we assume they joined their tribe, so two other demes, we potentially have ca. 4,000 in one tribe which is almost 1/3 of Athens' hoplite strength at the beginning of Pelop. War. The pandemei was a system for emergency or quick planning, used to override the very slow
system of katalogoi. It was usually used for raiding plans, or emergency defences. Delium is a little unusual in this instance, but not I dare say an anomaly. What made the system easier to handle was the tribal basis, so people always knew who to follow, who was leading.