Bari Weiss wrote a thread about conflict in the NY Times.
Other NY staff are pulling it apart.
Whats the lesson?
It's easier to do stories based on simplistic free speech stereotypes when there are not a bunch of reporters in the room to immediately fact-check you
Other NY staff are pulling it apart.
Whats the lesson?
It's easier to do stories based on simplistic free speech stereotypes when there are not a bunch of reporters in the room to immediately fact-check you
Anther NYT staffer contradicts Weiss. No doubt some people will take it as proof of how intolerant the organization is - but perhaps some will question the reliability and goals of her reporting given how other journalists are responding.
Three other NYT staffers contradict Weiss. (If you see others, please reply and I will repost). As one points out, opinion writers are not subject to potential discipline for criticizing co-workers that other NYT employees are, meaning some are taking risks by disagreeing w Weiss
Another NYT staffer contradicts Weiss (notice how careful they are to not name names). As with others, disputes Weiss's central claim about a big generational divide. You also get a sense that these were emotional conversations that people did not expect to be reposted.
All previous sources in this thread were verified NYT staff. These are unofficial reports from people claiming to have knowledge of NYT slack discussions - again, staff can be punished for saying too much on twitter - so evaluate them in that light. Not good.
I have not found a single NYT staffer who agrees w Weiss. Here are two more who say she misrepresents internal NYT conversations in basic ways.
How can people trust the judgment of a journalist whose colleagues would risk being punished to point out she is untrustworthy?
How can people trust the judgment of a journalist whose colleagues would risk being punished to point out she is untrustworthy?
Three more, including a contributing op-ed writer who has a bit more freedom to speak up.
To date, I've found 13 NYT staff who said Weiss is misrepresenting what happened, and zero who support her account.
To date, I've found 13 NYT staff who said Weiss is misrepresenting what happened, and zero who support her account.
Two more NYT staff contradict Weiss; one who says she is pursuing a "brazenly careerist and self-serving narrative" and another who does not name her, but distinguishes between journalists and "those who offer a platform for disinformation." Ouch.
