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Jul 13, 2020 • 8 tweets • 4 min read • Read on X
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Zinnia Jones is an online trans activist who advised dysphoric minors in a 2018 tweet and detailed article to obtain cheap alternatives to puberty blockers to "circumvent" parents who didn't agree.

What, you might ask, is Jones' current position on that 2018 advice? Image
In responding to a tweet by @jk_rowling yesterday, Jones doubled down. Image
Interestingly, another trans activist, older and more experienced than Jones, pointed out yesterday that the puberty blocker alternatives Jones wrote about not only might be dangerous--but wouldn't in any case be appropriate for adolescents. Image
Here's an excerpt from Jones "advice" article, which Jones continued to push yesterday for "trans adolescents" about MPA, the drug Oatc called "very bad indeed." Image
To recap: For over 2 years, Zinnia Jones' Twitter account & website have actively promoted the idea that minors should obtain cheaper alternatives to puberty blockers--drugs that a more knowledgeable trans activist calls "very bad indeed." Here's Jones on Twitter yesterday: Image
Why does this matter? Because Zinnia Jones has been given an undeserved platform as some sort of expert on "trans youth," including in such respected publications as @TheAtlantic .
Here's Zinnia Jones' article on "low cost alternatives to puberty blockers for trans adolescents" in all its archived glory.
archive.is/AK45J
Three minutes ago, in the same thread with @jk_rowling . Why should Jones' voice be listened to when discussing female detransitioners, any more than Jones' pontificating about hazardous drugs minors should use behind their parent's backs? Image

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Mar 7
1/Clinicians exposed in the #WPATHfiles admitted something obvious to any unbiased observer: Tweens/young teens can't make informed decisions about their future fertility. Blockers followed directly by cross-sex hormones typically results in sterility. 🧵
2/So how do pediatric genderists justify this rather significant side effect? A stunning recent example of a clinician rationalizing "they don't get it, but let's do it anyway" is a 2021 Zoom training with celebrity WPATH developmental psychologist Diane Ehrensaft. Image
3/Don't burden kids w/ "TMI" about icky & (to a 12 yr old) irrelevant talk about future baby-making. Ehrensaft: "How can a child 2 or 3 stages behind Erikson’s stage 7 anticipate what they will feel 2 or 3 stages later? It’s for us to start finding out. And we are.” #WPATHfiles
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Feb 8
Planned Parenthood is sharing "facts" for parents on Facebook and other social media--including this one: Gender identity is formed "for everyone" in their toddler years.

They encourage parents to ASK their preschooler "are you a boy or a girl" to "create a safer space." Image
More "facts" at this link:
plannedparenthood.org/blog/4-facts-y…
Here's a Facebook post from a couple days ago pushing these "facts." They manage to play the "suicide or transition" card, trans toddlers, and "there's no social contagion" -- all in one meme. Image
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Nov 17, 2023
Must-watch clip from the Netherlands. Apart from the fact that brain studies have never been carried out on puberty-blocked youth, evidence from animal studies has revealed something huge: Blockers impair emotional and social development and behavior. In particular ...1/n 🧵
The ability to regulate emotions is a key aspect of normal development. What is emotional regulation? it includes understanding and modulating behavior rather than simply following one's impulses and acting on them--as most immature children do. 2/n Image
The very basis of "affirmative" care is that a child is "persistent, consistent, insistent" in their desire to be the other sex. How much of that demand is rooted in the very natural emotional immaturity of a child who is not yet able to process and regulate their emotions? 3/n Image
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Sep 10, 2023
It's hard to believe Turban isn't being deliberately misleading. He KNOWS nearly all puberty-blocked kids go on to cross hormones, and that protocol does result in infertility. And immature gametes can't be frozen for later use; natural puberty is required for that. Image
Right here, Seattle Children's Hospital says it.

Turban knows. He just won't say it, because blocked kids almost never stop blockers and go through their "birth assigned puberty." So yes--they are sterilized! @JeremyShawMD Image
Right here, Diane Ehrensaft says it--at the very beginning of this clip. The standard affirmative protocol (which Jack Turban constantly promotes) sterilizes children--and Turban knows it.
dailymotion.com/video/x7kqndq
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Sep 2, 2023
Three years ago...

There is no walking this back. No justification.

Turning a child into a mascot and a public spectacle is a bad idea under any circumstances. Yet in 2023, it has been normalized for "trans kids."
Even people who support pediatric medical transition should question the trans-kid celebrity trend. "Hey I blocked my kid's puberty at 11, then put them on cross hormones at 12. This sterilized them & may have wrecked their future sexual function before they had any concept of what they were sacrificing... but look at me! Look at what a virtuous parent I am!" Oh, what if they regret all that publicity later on ... or even regret their transition? Maybe keeping private medical decisions about a minor...you know, private, might have been a better idea? "No worries, I'm on the right side of history. I'm not like those bigots! After all, my kid might be the next Jazz Jennings, getting SRS on national TV at 17!"
Imagine one of these children wanting to detransition, now or in the future. That's hard enough (ask any detransitioner) when you're not a public spectacle being unkindly gawked at by some, and depended upon by others (like the @ACLU , @HRC ) to promote a narrative. You are virtually guaranteeing these kids will maintain their "identity" because of all the public fallout they'd endure if they ever change their minds.
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Aug 25, 2023
Closing quote from Diane Ehrensaft: " [kids] are far more advanced than I am, as somebody in my 70s, about how they live and understand gender...“So if we want to really understand gender, turn to the experts—and that would be the youth themselves.”
archive.li/2023.08.24-123…
Scientific American @sciam a once-respected publication, didn't bother to ask why this 70+-yr-old **developmental psychologist** thinks a kid is equipped to sterilize themselves & knows more than she does. But then, neither did @wapo in 2018.

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x.com/4th_wavenow/st…
How does Ehrensaft keep getting away with this quasi-religious reverence for the wisdom and judgment of pre-pubescent kids? It would be one thing if the stakes weren't so high--as in, permanent sterilization and irreversible bodily changes. As a developmental psych, she KNOWS executive function is not fully in place until the mid-20s. Yet she keeps pushing her kids-know-best catechism and no reporter pushes back.
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