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Jul 15, 2020 12 tweets 3 min read Read on X
While states are debating whether to extend the #DiplomaPrivilege to 2020 law school graduates, here are a few thoughts on the broader debate over what barriers should be in place to practice law. (Thread.)
In most states, I gather there are two major limits. 1st, everyone has to pass the bar exam to practice. And 2nd, everyone need to get into and graduate from an ABA-accredited school -- a process that requires schools to have a certain bar passage rate. americanbar.org/news/abanews/a…
Proposals to have a Diploma Privilege raise really interesting questions about whether these barriers should exist, and if they shouldn't, what if anything should replace them.
One argument I have heard from students is that the bar exam should be abolished, as it's not clear it separates out the qualified from unqualified. I'm sympathetic to that: I took the CA bar exam recently, and it was weirdly out of step with lawyering. reason.com/2018/07/12/tak…
But let's assume you abolish the bar exam. What do you do with ABA accreditation, which requires a certain bar passage rate? Those accreditation standards assume a bar exam. How should they change if there is no bar exam?
Another Q is how law schools should change if there is no bar exam. Under the current system, most schools can more or less ignore admission to practice. They can make the JD program mostly electives, w/students free to take what courses they want and everyone passing.
If there's no bar exam, should that change? Should law schools limit electives and have more of a core curriculum to ensure that students are exposed to important areas? Should they tighten grading standards?
I don't have any answers, to be clear. (Sorry!) But there are really interesting questions, as the curriculum and grading in law schools, and the accreditation process, is premised on there being a bar exam. If you remove the exam, other parts parts have to be rethought.
FWIW, my own sense is that the best way forward with the Class of 2020 is to have some kind provisional licensing until the pandemic is over. And I would probably change the permanent bar exam so it tests legal skills and not memorization.
If those changes are made, it might make sense to require more of a core curriculum requirement on law schools. I was also intrigued by @LidskyLidsky's idea of having an initial bar exam relating to 1L topics after 1L year, not after 3L year.
Maybe you could do that after 1L year, and then have a legal skills exam after 3L year like the CA bar exam's performance test (writing a memo based on materials they give you, not requiring memorization of endless rules from 18 subjects).
There are lots of ways to rethink the process, I think. /end

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Classic @IJ case, and I'm a big fan of the result from a policy perspective. Constitutionally, though, this seems off to me (with the usual apologies for thinking that the Constitution does not enact my personal policy preferences).
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If the State thinks that you can't practice veterinary medicine effectively without inspecting the animal in person, that may be a dumb judgment. But at least to me—admittedly a non-expert in this area—it doesn't sound intuitively like it's primarily a regulation of speech.
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I now have Gorsuch's book. On Aaron Swartz, he gives a remarkably one-sided view of the facts. Swartz "connected his computer to MIT's network," the book says, and "he began downloading articles from JSTOR." /1
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The book then talks about how prosecutors charged him based on that, an obvious overreach for such minor conduct. Downloading a worthless botany article!

By comparison, here's my summary of the facts alleged in the indictment.
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BREAKING: 5th Circuit, splitting with 4th Circuit, rules that geofencing is a search and warrants to search for geofence records are inherently unconstitutional. It may be that *all* Internet warrants are unconstitutional by this reasoning. Lordy.
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I think that's an incredible result. As I read the opinion, it's too invasive to allow geofencing without a warrant, but it's too invasive to get a warrant for it, so no geofencing is ever allowed. This is bananas.
And remember the U.S. Supreme Court doesn't hear 4th Amendment cases anymore. So if the 5th Circuit doesn't review this en banc, we may have broad surveillance allowed in most of the country and no surveillance allowed in the 5th Circuit.
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Responses to this tweet are sad. As my followers know, I despise Trump, and I criticize him almost every day and have since 2015. He is an authoritarian, and he flirts with fascism; I urge you to vote against him and save America.

But that doesn't change this clip! Trump says horrible stuff every day; we don't need to pretend that every word out of his mouth is equally horrible. Don't lose the plotline, folks.
Incidentally, if you are horrified by my reaction — at the concept of actually watching the video to see what the video contains, and not just running with your tribe's chosen message — you are invited to unfollow me, or, if you don't follow me, mute or block me. I won't mind.
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This viral video, and the comments to it, brings up a common misunderstanding. No, the police don't have to tell you why they're detaining or arresting you. And no, they don't have to read you Miranda rights if they arrest you. They just need probable cause. That's it.

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Ok, the receipts. First, whether the police have to tell you why you're being arrested came up in a 2005 Supreme Court decision, Devenpeck v. Alford. Here's Justice Scalia writing for the 8-0 court, concluding, nope, no such requirement.
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Second, Miranda. There is no abstract right to Miranda warnings. Instead, SCOTUS has said that it's a violation of Miranda if an officer interrogates someone in custody, gets a statement from them, and then uses it in court against them.
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