Ward 1 Clr Maureen Wilson is having technical difficulties and her microphone cannot be heard.
Ward 2 Clr Jason Farr had similar difficulty, and is now being heard.
Ward 2 Clr Jason Farr had similar difficulty, and is now being heard.
Ward 14 Councillor Terry Whitehead is present on time today, this means it will be a long meeting.
The City Clerk has not added @MattJelly's delegation to the agenda.
The ongoing Stadium Fiasco, deciding on spending $1.1-mil to pay to replace faulty end guards, a decision is deferred to September.
"As there are delegates from the UK", City Council is moving delegations to the front of the meeting, before consent items.
This is a courtesy which Council does not extend to regular residents who often have to sit for hours on end before being allowed to speak.
This is a courtesy which Council does not extend to regular residents who often have to sit for hours on end before being allowed to speak.
Clr Danko asks about delegation requests to speak to Defunding Hamilton Police.
Notes Council does not determine police operational budget, this is the Police Board, would these delegations be better sent to Police Service Board?
Notes Council does not determine police operational budget, this is the Police Board, would these delegations be better sent to Police Service Board?
Legislative Assistant says there is a staff report to Council regarding police budget.
Danko asks if appropriate to refer to Police Board, moves a motion to do so.
Merulla seconds the motion.
Danko asks if appropriate to refer to Police Board, moves a motion to do so.
Merulla seconds the motion.
Clr Clark asks if @HamiltonPolice Chief Eric Girt will be present at Council on Sept 9th.
Answer, he has not responded to the requests from Council to attend.
Answer, he has not responded to the requests from Council to attend.
Clr Nann says she supports having the delegations on police defunding at Council.
Clr Partridge says she supports referring delegation requests to Police Board.
Clr Merulla supports referral as well.
Clr Partridge says she supports referring delegation requests to Police Board.
Clr Merulla supports referral as well.
Clr Merulla draws out his regular line:
"CNN is not the Canadian News Network" to which Clr Pearson, in the chair, chuckles.
"CNN is not the Canadian News Network" to which Clr Pearson, in the chair, chuckles.
Mayor @FredEisenberger, who is Police Board Chair, says he is concerned about referring the delegations to Police Board as this would bypass Police Board processes.
Mayor Eisenberger says the Police Board is as transparent as Council.
This is true, as Head of Council, Eisenberger runs the Council with most illegal closed meetings in Ontario
Our Police Board is one of the least transparent as well.
This is true, as Head of Council, Eisenberger runs the Council with most illegal closed meetings in Ontario
Our Police Board is one of the least transparent as well.
Mayor Eisenberger says he welcome Council responding to people seeking to delegate on police defunding they should apply to the Police Board to delegate.
He claims they'd be welcome to delegate.
If they apply to Police Board, the process is months long before delegates heard
He claims they'd be welcome to delegate.
If they apply to Police Board, the process is months long before delegates heard
Mayor Eisenberger says he is opposing the referral of police defunding delegations.
He opposes referral, he wants them denied and people told to separately apply to Police Board to delegate.
He opposes referral, he wants them denied and people told to separately apply to Police Board to delegate.
Clr Whitehead says he wants to hear out the delegates on police defunding. Looks forward to "addressing the misinformation"
Clr Clark asks when was the last time Council rejected a delegation?
Notes Council regularly hears delegations on matters which are not related to its Municipal Act authorities.
Notes Council regularly hears delegations on matters which are not related to its Municipal Act authorities.
Clr Wilson, whose microphone is now working, supports having the delegations at Council.
Clr Pauls declares a conflict of interest as her son is a Hamilton Police sworn officer.
Clr Ferguson is asking what happens if individuals wish to delegate at both the Police Board and City Council?
We've now passed 30 minutes in Council debating if it will hear delegations regarding defunding police.
Take note of this when Council complains later today about how long their meeting is taking.
Take note of this when Council complains later today about how long their meeting is taking.
Clr Ferguson does not support Danko's referral motion.
Clr Nann notes that while the delegations are grouped under the subject heading of defunding the police, Council does not know the content of delegations, thus referral motion is making a leap of assumption.
The Legislative Assistant now jumps in to remind Council they have a long meeting ahead of them, and the delegates from the Commonwealth Games videoconferencing from the UK waiting to speak.
Clr Partridge is concerned that referring the delegations to the Police Board will delay them being heard due to the lengthy process at the Board.
The Motion is now to approval of all the delegations for the Sept 9 2020 Council GIC, and to provide the delegates with info.
Some issues with the voting. Standing by for a revote result.
Delegations regarding police budgeting / defunding police are approved for the September 9 Council GIC meeting. 
The 2026 Commonwealth Games private bid group needs a waiver of the five-minute public delegation time limit.
Passes unanimously. #HamOnt
Passes unanimously. #HamOnt
.@PJMercanti now speaking as president of the private bid group says this is a "godsend" opportunity will be help Hamilton to recover from COVID and to gain new civic infrastructure.
Mercanti says the City does not have to make final decisions today.
Says the 2026 Games bid is an "entirely different opportunity and process" than 2030 and other international games.
Says they are focused on city priorities, not the games.
Says the 2026 Games bid is an "entirely different opportunity and process" than 2030 and other international games.
Says they are focused on city priorities, not the games.
Mercanti is saying they have a diverse range of community groups and partners; and they have meeting with those who do not support the games to hear their needs and concerns.
Mercanti says the 2026 Commonwealth Games are not seeking direct money from the City. Looking for transfer of City lands for Games affordable housing, funds from Future Fund, and "in-kind" support.
Mercanti says the private sector is willing to assume the responsibility for the City's recreation fees support program for those in needs.
Mercanti says they are working with Indwell to ensure this Games is focused upon affordable housing.
Mercanti says the 2026 Games books will be scrutinized by government and the Commonwealth Games.
Says that Hamilton is in line for funding from higher levels of government, hosting a Games will move Hamilton to front of the line.
Says that Hamilton is in line for funding from higher levels of government, hosting a Games will move Hamilton to front of the line.
Mercanti says the Hamilton 2026 Games will be the first with lacrosse as a medal sport. There will be land acknowledgements at all medal ceremonies.
Lacrosse will be played at Six Nations.
Lacrosse will be played at Six Nations.
Mercanti says the most important group does not have a voice at Council - the kids.
"We speak for them", he says of the bid group.
Says the Games will "give our kids a better chance"
"We speak for them", he says of the bid group.
Says the Games will "give our kids a better chance"
Mercanti now showing a video which is narrated by a child.
Endorsements from athletes.
.@BrentKinnaird, who last week told those who are not in favour of the 2026 Commonwealth Games to "just stop", is one of the video endorsements.
Just like 1930, Hamilton is struggling today, and much like the 1930 British Empire Games, the 2026 Commonwealth Games will revive and restore Hamilton - the private bid group says.
Martin Short celebrity endorsement.
Graham Cubitt of @IndwellCA says the 2026 Commonwealth Games provides Hamilton an opportunity to get 3000 more affordable housing unit funded by the federal and provincial government. He is speaking to Council now.
3000 is the goal, they are working to determine how to achieve it.
Brian MacPherson, CEO of Commonwealth Games Canada, blows smoke by claiming Hamilton has won the right to be the Canadian candidate city for the Commonwealth Games.
No other city wants to bid, Hamilton is the only city with a group (private in our case) expressing interest.
No other city wants to bid, Hamilton is the only city with a group (private in our case) expressing interest.
Brian MacPherson, CEO of Commonwealth Games Canada, now talking about how responsible the Commonwealth Games are, and the tight budget controls they will have in place.
Now speaking is David Grevemberg of the Commonwealth Games Federation, speaking from the UK.
Thanks Council for speaking to him, and to all Hamiltonians watching.
Thanks Council for speaking to him, and to all Hamiltonians watching.
Grevemberg is delivering a list of reasons we've all heard before for hosting the 2026 Games.
He has not said anything of note, and hasn't added anything of value to the bid presentation.
He has not said anything of note, and hasn't added anything of value to the bid presentation.
Commonwealth Federation CEO claims they've eliminated the international bid process to save money on games costs.
Nope, they've cancelled the bid process because nobody is bidding.
Nope, they've cancelled the bid process because nobody is bidding.
Commonwealth Federation CEO claims that Australia and India are both interested in hosting the 2026 Games, it's simply not true that nobody else is interested.
Clr Whitehead says this was one of the best presentations he's ever seen.
Says he is glad Council delayed decision, because more is being learned about the Games as time passes.
Says he is glad Council delayed decision, because more is being learned about the Games as time passes.
Turning back to the statement Australia is waiting to bid on a 2026 Games. insidethegames.biz/articles/10849…
Clr Jackson says he has no questions today, only a speech to be delivered.
Jackson has been debating his position, said he was leaning towards a no vote during the July Council GIC meeting.
Jackson has been debating his position, said he was leaning towards a no vote during the July Council GIC meeting.
Clr Ferguson asks Commonwealth Federation CEO about his statement there are others seeking to bid.
Fed CEO says there are but they are focused upon Hamilton.
He did not provide specifics of these other interested bidders.
Fed CEO says there are but they are focused upon Hamilton.
He did not provide specifics of these other interested bidders.
Clr Ferguson has been opposed to the 2026 Games, the latest iteration of the bid includes Ancaster as a place where Games events will occur.
His is a vote to watch for this reason.
His is a vote to watch for this reason.
Just noticed that @PJMercanti is wearing a Hamilton (official City of Hamilton logo) pin.
Clr Ferguson:
When does the City Council have to make a decision on hosting the 2026 Games.
Mercanti:
Hopes to come back to Council in September.
Commonwealth Games:
"Support in Principle" by end of September from all three levels of government.
When does the City Council have to make a decision on hosting the 2026 Games.
Mercanti:
Hopes to come back to Council in September.
Commonwealth Games:
"Support in Principle" by end of September from all three levels of government.
Clr Ferguson is asking some good questions, it appears he is considering moving his vote to supporting the 2026 Games, he says he is feeling more comfortable with the bid now.
Clr Danko asks questions about venue requirements, getting to what is the balance between community needs v. Games requirements.
Clr Danko now asking questions regarding the timeline.
Notes it is only six years away.
What will be the timeline needed for final approvals, multi-party agreement.
Notes it is only six years away.
What will be the timeline needed for final approvals, multi-party agreement.
The multi-party commitment in principle needs to be completed by the end of September.
Then multi-party agreement follows.
"Principle terms is the most important piece", says Commonwealth Games Canada CEO.
Then multi-party agreement follows.
"Principle terms is the most important piece", says Commonwealth Games Canada CEO.
Clr Danko notes the problems in the past with capital projects, delays in arenas, and the ongoing stadium fiasco.
Asking more questions on the timelines for hosting a 2026 Games.
Generalities are the answer in response.
Asking more questions on the timelines for hosting a 2026 Games.
Generalities are the answer in response.
Clr Nann:
Notes that a comment made earlier, regarding 'lashes on our backs' was unfortunate.
Notes that a comment made earlier, regarding 'lashes on our backs' was unfortunate.
Clr Nann:
Asking how long it will take post-Games for new affordable housing units, which will be the athletes housing during the games, to be transferred to housing Hamiltonians.
Asking how long it will take post-Games for new affordable housing units, which will be the athletes housing during the games, to be transferred to housing Hamiltonians.
Canada Commonwealth Games CEO:
Takes 2 to 3 months post games.
Takes 2 to 3 months post games.
Clr Nann:
question on how they will engage the public, especially those who cannot easily access online platforms.
question on how they will engage the public, especially those who cannot easily access online platforms.
A *new* and good question
Clr Nann:
If, due to COVID, there are no 2022 Games in Birmingham, do they have "bumping rights" to then host the 2026 Games in Birmingham post-COVID?
Clr Nann:
If, due to COVID, there are no 2022 Games in Birmingham, do they have "bumping rights" to then host the 2026 Games in Birmingham post-COVID?
Commonwealth Games Federation CEO:
There is no current thinking about shifting 2022 to 2026, as they incur more cost and time lag.
Focus is to safely and responsibly deliver in 2022, then safely and responsibly in 2026.
There is no current thinking about shifting 2022 to 2026, as they incur more cost and time lag.
Focus is to safely and responsibly deliver in 2022, then safely and responsibly in 2026.
Clr Nann:
In regards to cost overruns, these games are being framed as "zero cost" to the City. Looking at other games, people are concerned. Who pays for cost overruns, will this be part of September presentation?
In regards to cost overruns, these games are being framed as "zero cost" to the City. Looking at other games, people are concerned. Who pays for cost overruns, will this be part of September presentation?
There is not a direct answer to this question. Much talk about how they'll scale down to avoid cost overruns, and maximize community benefits.
Now @PJMercanti asks a question to have the Commonwealth Games Federation (UK) answer: who gets a surplus.
This is out of order by the rules, but Clr Pearson as Chair allows it.
She says she is being lax on rules because there is an international delegation today.
She says she is being lax on rules because there is an international delegation today.
Clr Clark:
Will we be able to have staff answer questions?
Answer is a staff report is coming forth in September.
GM of Finance Mike Zegarac (who covered up the Red Hill, Cootes, and IT National Front leader) is the staff member leading on the Commonwealth Games Bid team.
Will we be able to have staff answer questions?
Answer is a staff report is coming forth in September.
GM of Finance Mike Zegarac (who covered up the Red Hill, Cootes, and IT National Front leader) is the staff member leading on the Commonwealth Games Bid team.
Worth remembering that senior City staff can retire, collect municipal pensions, and work for a 2026 Games.
This is something to watch for.
Mayor @FredEisenberger supports "double-dipping", he does it himself as Canada's second highest paid mayor.
This is something to watch for.
Mayor @FredEisenberger supports "double-dipping", he does it himself as Canada's second highest paid mayor.
Clr Clark:
"It seems to be a very glossy sales report, but for me it is lacking a little in substance" he says of the presentation.
"Do we have what the budget will be?"
"We do not have that".
"It seems to be a very glossy sales report, but for me it is lacking a little in substance" he says of the presentation.
"Do we have what the budget will be?"
"We do not have that".
.@PJMercanti says they will be presenting the budget in the coming weeks, with third-party accountants verifying the numbers.
Clr Clark:
Cites recent budgets of Games.
Notes that every previous Games have been funded by local governments
How is it that Hamilton will have no impact on the levy?
Cites recent budgets of Games.
Notes that every previous Games have been funded by local governments
How is it that Hamilton will have no impact on the levy?
Mercanti:
Private sector and in-kind, ticket sales, can be counted towards the host municipal share.
Private sector and in-kind, ticket sales, can be counted towards the host municipal share.
Clr Clark:
Past Commonwealth Games in Canada have been funded
50% Federal
25% Provincial
25% Municipal
How can the private bid group project 80% fed/prov funding?
Past Commonwealth Games in Canada have been funded
50% Federal
25% Provincial
25% Municipal
How can the private bid group project 80% fed/prov funding?
Private bid group cites 2015 Pan Am Games
Clr Clark notes 2015 Pan Am was a provincial initiative, thus the province paid for it and the significant cost overruns.
Clr Clark notes 2015 Pan Am was a provincial initiative, thus the province paid for it and the significant cost overruns.
Clr Clark to bid group:
Would you support a plebiscite on the Games?
[This is a odd argument for Clark, who pays for a plebiscite, and Clark often notes people elect leaders to make decisions] @BCouncillor
Would you support a plebiscite on the Games?
[This is a odd argument for Clark, who pays for a plebiscite, and Clark often notes people elect leaders to make decisions] @BCouncillor
Clr Clark follows up with a question which purpose is to note there is not much public support for international games.
Cites Calgary plebiscite against bidding on the Olympics .
Cites Calgary plebiscite against bidding on the Olympics .
Clr Clark argues back to Mercanti's no-cost to levy line.
"In-kind contributions do impact the levy"
Clark notes the City paid for its properties, could sell them and use the funds to decrease its infrastructure decision. Staff time has a cost.
"In-kind contributions do impact the levy"
Clark notes the City paid for its properties, could sell them and use the funds to decrease its infrastructure decision. Staff time has a cost.
Mercanti says the Games will positively benefit the taxpayer of Hamilton by bringing in outside funds to support existing municipal priorities.
Clark "on that we agree" says he would've never advised a client to claim no levy impact when there is an impact.
Clark "on that we agree" says he would've never advised a client to claim no levy impact when there is an impact.
Clr Merulla says Pan Am was a Toronto bid, Commonwealth is a Hamilton bid. That's why he opposed Pan Am and support Commonwealth.
Says he is supporting this games as it will bring affordable housing.
(Merulla has traditionally argued against Games as circuses)
Says he is supporting this games as it will bring affordable housing.
(Merulla has traditionally argued against Games as circuses)
Clr Merulla says it is "unbecoming" that people don't support the Commonwealth Games, as it is "One Billion in affordable housing".
The overall Games budget is $1-billion, we don't have a breakdown, but affordable housing is only part of the pie, not close to whole pay.
The overall Games budget is $1-billion, we don't have a breakdown, but affordable housing is only part of the pie, not close to whole pay.
Now Clr Merulla says the affordable housing will increase the tax levy.
Says people opposing Commonwealth Games are "keyboard morons" and "laughable".
Says people opposing Commonwealth Games are "keyboard morons" and "laughable".
Clr Merulla calling people "keyboard morons" is quickly becoming the Council BINGO free space.
Clr Partridge, who is the Commonwealth Games champion on Council, says she is disappointed the presentation today does not have more detail today.
Clr Partridge:
What would be the impact of FIFA in Toronto in 2026 on the Commonwealth Games.
Answer: no overlap, it will be a "super summer of sport for the Golden Horseshoe".
What would be the impact of FIFA in Toronto in 2026 on the Commonwealth Games.
Answer: no overlap, it will be a "super summer of sport for the Golden Horseshoe".
Clr Partridge:
Will FIFA drain sponsorship away from Pan Am?
A non-answer in response.
Will FIFA drain sponsorship away from Pan Am?
A non-answer in response.
Clr Wilson:
I'm hearing many references to senior orders of government, and conversations with them. Who is having those conversations, and what is their purpose?
Mercanti:
bid group has been sharing information.
I'm hearing many references to senior orders of government, and conversations with them. Who is having those conversations, and what is their purpose?
Mercanti:
bid group has been sharing information.
Clr Wilson asking questions on structure of the Bid Corporation and the Games Corporation.
Wilson trying to get a firm answer on who is ultimately responsible in the event of a games deficit.
Eventually, Commonwealth Canada says traditionally it's the province.
Wilson trying to get a firm answer on who is ultimately responsible in the event of a games deficit.
Eventually, Commonwealth Canada says traditionally it's the province.
Turning back to Merulla's claim of $1-billion for affordable housing. The bid group is saying "hundreds of millions" not Billion.
@IndwellCA saying 3,000 new units, they are already planning 3000 new units (have not yet secured funding for this) rockonlocke.ca/news/indwell-s…
@IndwellCA saying 3,000 new units, they are already planning 3000 new units (have not yet secured funding for this) rockonlocke.ca/news/indwell-s…
Clr Wilson:
Says the City has had no influence over the 2026 Games, and is being asked to fund it.
Wants clear answers on what the City is committing to.
Asks City Manager to respond.
Says the City has had no influence over the 2026 Games, and is being asked to fund it.
Wants clear answers on what the City is committing to.
Asks City Manager to respond.
City Manager Janette Smith says Council has not provided any direction to staff to create a report to Council. If direction is given, a report can be provided to Council in September.
CM Smith defers to GM Finance Mike Zegarac to answer further.
Zegarac says Council approved working on 2030, but staff do not have direction to work on 2026.
Staff need more details on 2026 to provide a report in September.
Zegarac says Council approved working on 2030, but staff do not have direction to work on 2026.
Staff need more details on 2026 to provide a report in September.
Zegarac's answers are interesting. Clr Partridge has claimed Zegarac is working as part of the Commonwealth Games committee group on the 2026 Bid.
Zegarac is indicating he is not, just providing public info to the group.
Hard to know which of them to believe on this.
Zegarac is indicating he is not, just providing public info to the group.
Hard to know which of them to believe on this.
Mayor Eisenberger:
"The reality is 2030 had that 100 year anniversary wrapped around it"
"how are we going to celebrate that 100 year anniversary in 2026?" is the Mayor's question.
"The reality is 2030 had that 100 year anniversary wrapped around it"
"how are we going to celebrate that 100 year anniversary in 2026?" is the Mayor's question.
Mercanti:
We could have a festival in 2030, nothing can take away that legacy.
We could have a festival in 2030, nothing can take away that legacy.
Commonwealth Games Canada:
Open to ways to celebrate Hamilton being the founding place.
Commonwealth Games Federation:
"A distinct opportunity in 2026 to reforge a new model"
Open to ways to celebrate Hamilton being the founding place.
Commonwealth Games Federation:
"A distinct opportunity in 2026 to reforge a new model"
Clr Clark:
I'm struggling to understand how Birmingham will spend $1.3-billlion and get 1,400 affordable housing units.
Hamilton is being told it will get 3,000 affordable units while spending $1.1-billion? How do we get $1-billion for housing when overall budget is $1.1B?
I'm struggling to understand how Birmingham will spend $1.3-billlion and get 1,400 affordable housing units.
Hamilton is being told it will get 3,000 affordable units while spending $1.1-billion? How do we get $1-billion for housing when overall budget is $1.1B?
Mercanti:
Housing is a separate funding envelope, separate funding sources.
Housing is a separate funding envelope, separate funding sources.
I'm having a computer issue which is preventing me from clipping video at this time. I need to do a full reboot of my systems, I will do so as soon as I can.
Clr Jackson:
as a prepared speech, delivering it now.
Thanks the bid team for all their work in the community, speaking about his support for past gaming events.
Grey Cups, Ticats, Memorial Cups, 3 NHL bids
"All Commonwealth Bids up until now"
as a prepared speech, delivering it now.
Thanks the bid team for all their work in the community, speaking about his support for past gaming events.
Grey Cups, Ticats, Memorial Cups, 3 NHL bids
"All Commonwealth Bids up until now"
This sounds big "All Commonwealth Bids up until now"
- now listing the past Commonwealth Games bids, and the number of times they've rejected Hamilton.
He is speaking loudly for effect.
Then he hears Hamilton is not a top bidder for 2030 Games, then suddenly 2026?
- now listing the past Commonwealth Games bids, and the number of times they've rejected Hamilton.
He is speaking loudly for effect.
Then he hears Hamilton is not a top bidder for 2030 Games, then suddenly 2026?
Jackson:
Then "they come begging" to Hamilton "we desparately need you ... Commonwealth Games can't go eight years without Games"
"2026 means nothing to me" nor the residents of the East Mountain
Then "they come begging" to Hamilton "we desparately need you ... Commonwealth Games can't go eight years without Games"
"2026 means nothing to me" nor the residents of the East Mountain
Jackson:
Commonwealth Games corp "have kicked this long-time faithful supportive Councillor in the gut one too many times"
Cites City's COVID deficit and needs.
Commonwealth Games corp "have kicked this long-time faithful supportive Councillor in the gut one too many times"
Cites City's COVID deficit and needs.
Clr Johnson:
Voting against the Commonwealth Games, Hamilton has bigger priorities.
Voting against the Commonwealth Games, Hamilton has bigger priorities.
Clr Whitehead: says he is disappointed that "some are scared of social media, some are afraid of the mob" and voting against the Commonwealth Games without all the information. "I don't know how you arrive at no without all the information"
Clr Whitehead: says he can't believe Councillors are turning down $1-Billion for housing.
Clr Clark:
I heard both Mercanti and Staff say they need Council to vote today to give authority for staff to work with the 2026 private bid group, do we have to vote today?
Legislative Assistant:
At this point, there are no motions on the floor.
I heard both Mercanti and Staff say they need Council to vote today to give authority for staff to work with the 2026 private bid group, do we have to vote today?
Legislative Assistant:
At this point, there are no motions on the floor.
Clr Clark:
Staff need direction, and that will have to be discussed.
Staff need direction, and that will have to be discussed.
Clr Clark:
Can we afford to do these Games?
"I don't see a long lineup of people looking to bid on the 2026 Games"
Hamilton has a $3-billion deficit for municipal infrastructure.
Can we afford to do these Games?
"I don't see a long lineup of people looking to bid on the 2026 Games"
Hamilton has a $3-billion deficit for municipal infrastructure.
Clr Clark:
There is a clear record of games costs from elsewhere, these don't change.
We can use COVID stimulus to address ongoing needs and infrastructure deficit. Opposed to Commonwealth Games.
There is a clear record of games costs from elsewhere, these don't change.
We can use COVID stimulus to address ongoing needs and infrastructure deficit. Opposed to Commonwealth Games.
Mayor Eisenberger:
Says he is confident that the 2026 Commonwealth Games could bring more funds to Hamilton than other initiatives, says it is premature to say no, only asking for information.
Says he is confident that the 2026 Commonwealth Games could bring more funds to Hamilton than other initiatives, says it is premature to say no, only asking for information.
Mayor Eisenberger is now claiming he is not sure about the 2026 Games.
Now talking about how Council needs to move forward to find out if senior levels of government will fund Commonwealth Games, and $1-billion for affordable housing.
Now talking about how Council needs to move forward to find out if senior levels of government will fund Commonwealth Games, and $1-billion for affordable housing.
This is fascinating, Mayor @FredEisenberger is clearly feeling public sentiment against the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
He's not saying he is asking the Games, but his support is now being hedged.
He's not saying he is asking the Games, but his support is now being hedged.
Mayor Eisenberger, today is not the time to decide, that will come later, after getting more information.
Clr Merulla:
2026 is good governance, it means affordable housing four years earlier than 2030.
2026 is good governance, it means affordable housing four years earlier than 2030.
Clr Merulla keeps saying the Games are required to get $1-Billion in affordable housing.
Clr Clark to staff:
What staff resources are needed to create a staff report for Sept 9?
Staff:
Challenge, five to six staff needed, staff are busy on COVID response and post-COVID planning.
What staff resources are needed to create a staff report for Sept 9?
Staff:
Challenge, five to six staff needed, staff are busy on COVID response and post-COVID planning.
City Manager says there may be a need for external consultants to get a report to Council in time for Commonwealth Games deadlines.
Mayor Eisenberger, seconded by Merulla, moves to receive the Commonwealth Games presentation.
Ferguson wanted to second.
Voting underway.
Ferguson wanted to second.
Voting underway.
On receiving the delegation - which is a formality in this case - Council approves on a 13-3 vote.
Wilson, Nann, Clark opposed.
Wilson, Nann, Clark opposed.
Now onto public delegations. This is the first time ever than citizens have delegated by video.
Craig Burley, a lawyer who forced the City to properly allow public delegations, is the first to video delegate.
Craig Burley, a lawyer who forced the City to properly allow public delegations, is the first to video delegate.
Burley opens by noting the personal attacks made against individuals by Merulla and Whitehead earlier in the meeting, their comments were inappropriate, and unbecoming of a public deliberative body.
Burley further notes, citing Mayor Eisenberger's earlier comments about being on the same team as the Bid Corp, that the Municipal Conflict of Interest Act is clear, being on the same team is a conflict.
Burley now going into detail on the Games going overbudget in the past.
First question to Burley from Whitehead:
Whitehead demands Burley apologize for highlight Merulla's comments, Whitehead says that Burley failed to meet the dignity required of a delegation.
Burley stands by his statement regarding behaviour at Council.
Whitehead demands Burley apologize for highlight Merulla's comments, Whitehead says that Burley failed to meet the dignity required of a delegation.
Burley stands by his statement regarding behaviour at Council.
Whitehead to Burley:
Would you say Council should not make a decision without information.
Burley:
You don't have information, the fact is that government pays for games and cost overruns.
Would you say Council should not make a decision without information.
Burley:
You don't have information, the fact is that government pays for games and cost overruns.
Whitehead is trying to argue with Burley.
Burley is a good lawyer, and Whitehead is clearly outmatched.
Burley reminds Whitehead the answers to his questions were in Burley's presentation.
Burley is a good lawyer, and Whitehead is clearly outmatched.
Burley reminds Whitehead the answers to his questions were in Burley's presentation.
Clr Merulla to Burley:
"Tell me something, what exactly did I say that was insulting to you"
"You went on a rant about keyboard morons ... eating pizza in their pyjamas ... in their basement"
It is beneath the dignity of this Council, "but not below the dignity of you".
"Tell me something, what exactly did I say that was insulting to you"
"You went on a rant about keyboard morons ... eating pizza in their pyjamas ... in their basement"
It is beneath the dignity of this Council, "but not below the dignity of you".
Clr Merulla goes on a rant of insults against Burley.
Clr Merulla makes a legal threat against Burley, the Chair Maria Pearson allows it to stand. #decorumwatch
Clr Merulla makes a legal threat against Burley, the Chair Maria Pearson allows it to stand. #decorumwatch
For clarity,
Burley responded to Merulla with the following:
"You went on a rant about keyboard morons ... eating pizza in their pyjamas ... in their basement"
It is beneath the dignity of this Council, "but not below the dignity of you".
Burley responded to Merulla with the following:
"You went on a rant about keyboard morons ... eating pizza in their pyjamas ... in their basement"
It is beneath the dignity of this Council, "but not below the dignity of you".
Current public delegate Lincoln Cole is speaking in favour of the 2026 Commonwealth Games.
Public delegate Anthony Macaluso says the 2026 will do much for children and youth.
Anthony Macaluso: basing our Games and assumptions from past games "belittles" the abilities of Hamiltonians to do great things and to build affordable housing as a Games legacy.
Macaluso: Just as LRT is about more than just transit, it is city building. The Games are about city building and will make Hamilton better to bring "out the best in each of us".
Paraphrases Nann's comment on LRT that it could be an artery of equitable recovering from COVID
Paraphrases Nann's comment on LRT that it could be an artery of equitable recovering from COVID
Amanda Cole is the present delegate, she is part of the 2026 Commonwealth Games bid supporter group and on their private video conference a few weeks ago.
She is encouraging Council to support the games.
She is encouraging Council to support the games.
Next delegate is Simon Farbrother, Former City Manager for Edmonton and Member of the Board of Directors for Commonwealth Sport Canada.
He supports the bid, says it is about city building.
He supports the bid, says it is about city building.
Farbrother: "at the end of the day you rent the games" and use them to build a legacy - including enjoying the games, economic development, and housing.
Don MacVicar says this Council are "great visionaries" for Hamilton, made the City much better, and responsible for the rebuilding of roads/bridges/Red Hill/Water Treatment Plant.
Build new recreation centres, splash pads "for all the children to enjoy"
Build new recreation centres, splash pads "for all the children to enjoy"
MacVicar is wearing his Hamilton Police lapel pin. The Police Board (which is suppose to be independent) where the HPS crest on their blazers and as lapel pins.
Delegate is Chance Cordon, ones by thanking Council for allowing delegations.
He is opposed to the Games, it is not the right answer to recover from COVID.
Thanks those who put together the bid for their work.
This is a good delegation.
He is opposed to the Games, it is not the right answer to recover from COVID.
Thanks those who put together the bid for their work.
This is a good delegation.
Clr Whitehead to Chance Cordon:
would you expect your Councillor to make decisions without all the facts in front of them.
Cordon:
The track record of Games have been presented to you, I would not expect my Councillor to commit to something like this.
would you expect your Councillor to make decisions without all the facts in front of them.
Cordon:
The track record of Games have been presented to you, I would not expect my Councillor to commit to something like this.
Sue Prestedge is the next delegate. In favour of the Games, says look at all the prestige that comes with Games, the success of the Cycling Championships in 2003.
In 1930, there were a depression and Hamilton successfully used the Empire Games to recover.
In 1930, there were a depression and Hamilton successfully used the Empire Games to recover.
Mayor Eisenberger asks Prestedge to speak further, what do you say to the average taxpayer in Hamilton about the benefits of 2026 Games.
Cindy Gangaram, Board Chair - Environment Hamilton, says the organization is opposed.
Hosting reduces municipal resources for priority concerns, it is a risky mega-games. Says that stand in solidarity with Indigenous peoples, cites legacy of colonialism of the British Empire
Hosting reduces municipal resources for priority concerns, it is a risky mega-games. Says that stand in solidarity with Indigenous peoples, cites legacy of colonialism of the British Empire
Gangaram: If the goal is affordable housing, it should not be tied to a mega-event, it should be built now, not want to post-games to make it available.
Citing past games cost overruns.
Citing past games cost overruns.
Gangaram: maybe we should follow the example of every other city in the world and not bid on the Games.
Clr Whitehead posing questions trying to challenge Gangaram, trying to undermine.
Gangaram is giving more good arguments against the Commonwealth Games.
A wise proponent would stop questioning, as it is giving Gangaram more opportunity to speak well
Gangaram is giving more good arguments against the Commonwealth Games.
A wise proponent would stop questioning, as it is giving Gangaram more opportunity to speak well
Clr Merulla:
"I supported affordable housing before it was cool", says those opposed to the games are opposed to affordable housing and Indwell.
"I supported affordable housing before it was cool", says those opposed to the games are opposed to affordable housing and Indwell.
That is the end of delegations.
Mayor Eisenberger says Council should take a break now. Call for 30-minute recess.
Discussion follows regarding next steps on the Commonwealth Games.
Mayor says they don't need to respond to Commonwealth deadlines.
And they are now on recess.
Mayor says they don't need to respond to Commonwealth deadlines.
And they are now on recess.
Council is back on time, and the Legislative Assistant says they have quorum. #yhmcc
Now onto the rest of the agenda.
Now for a $91,681 environmental remediation grant at 3311 Homestead Drive in Mt Hope.
PHCs in soil from past vehicle mechanic shop on site.
Will facilitate development of a 2 storey commercial bldg, and 166 townhouses.
Passes unanimously.
PHCs in soil from past vehicle mechanic shop on site.
Will facilitate development of a 2 storey commercial bldg, and 166 townhouses.
Passes unanimously.
Now onto the latest Stadium Fiasco.
$1.1-mil required to replace end panels in the stands.
Decision to be delayed a month to give Ontario Sports Solutions a chance to view the problem prior to Council making a decision on funding replacement.
$1.1-mil required to replace end panels in the stands.
Decision to be delayed a month to give Ontario Sports Solutions a chance to view the problem prior to Council making a decision on funding replacement.
Now financing new Waterdown Police and Fire Station.
$8-million in new debt for the City to finance, 5% interest rate, 15yrs repayment.
Still need to finance $9.4-mil of station.
Consultant being hired for final costing and finance strategy.
Another $3.7m as part of 2021 budget
$8-million in new debt for the City to finance, 5% interest rate, 15yrs repayment.
Still need to finance $9.4-mil of station.
Consultant being hired for final costing and finance strategy.
Another $3.7m as part of 2021 budget
Clr Wilson asking questions related to significant changes to provincial laws and regulations in Bill 197.
Deputy City Solicitor Michael Kyne noting they don't have much information yet of how the new rules will be implemented or work in practice.
Deputy City Solicitor Michael Kyne noting they don't have much information yet of how the new rules will be implemented or work in practice.
Discussion of reopening of indoor City rec centres and spaces.
School boards may need to use recreation facilities for classroom space.
Number of people using pools is low, no line-ups or waiting for time slots, say City Staff.
School boards may need to use recreation facilities for classroom space.
Number of people using pools is low, no line-ups or waiting for time slots, say City Staff.
Clr Nann:
What are the trends on community transmission in COVID-19?
Where are these transmissions occuring?
[There were 10 new cases today, a significant uptick from 3/4 average past few weeks.]
What are the trends on community transmission in COVID-19?
Where are these transmissions occuring?
[There were 10 new cases today, a significant uptick from 3/4 average past few weeks.]
Hamilton Associate Medical Officer of Health Dr. Ninh Tran:
- community transmission is happening
- can't pinpoint where it is occurring
There is more social interactions in the community, he says.
- community transmission is happening
- can't pinpoint where it is occurring
There is more social interactions in the community, he says.
Clr Clark asks if there is a timeline for resumption of Council meetings in City Hall.
Emerg Ops Centre will review this in late Summer / early Fall.
Council Chambers will need to be changed to enable distancing.
Emerg Ops Centre will review this in late Summer / early Fall.
Council Chambers will need to be changed to enable distancing.
Clr Clark says the Assoc MoH to speak about the national COVID-19 app.
Discussion of the strong safeguards of the app.
Discussion of the strong safeguards of the app.
Clr Wilson asking questions on school reopening and demographics of COVID-19 in Hamilton.
Dr. Tran says a preliminary report on demographics will come to Council in September.
Dr. Tran says a preliminary report on demographics will come to Council in September.
Clr Wilson to Dr. Tran:
If there is an outbreak in schools, does the local Medical Officer of Health have authority to close a school?
Dr. Tran is not not clear from the Province on authorities related to school.
If there is an outbreak in schools, does the local Medical Officer of Health have authority to close a school?
Dr. Tran is not not clear from the Province on authorities related to school.
Clr Whitehead says there are businesses not allowing people, who claim exception, without masks into their establishments.
Deputy City Solicitor says the businesses are violating the by-law by not allowing exception based upon claim.
Deputy City Solicitor says the businesses are violating the by-law by not allowing exception based upon claim.
Clrs Ferguson and Pauls asking repeated questions on how to reopen pools for lane and lap swims.
After eight hours of listening to Council, my tolerance for stupid statements is significantly decreased.
Clr Pearson, who is the Chair, is allowing @TerryWhitehead to just keep asking questions - which he's already asked at previous meetings.
Council still has closed session to follow, and more items on the agenda.
Council still has closed session to follow, and more items on the agenda.
Now on making the Physical Distancing By-law permanent, it was previously tied to the State of Emergency.
The new by-law version is terribly written, has broad and unlimited enforcement rules, and heavier fine for "obstruction" of physical distancing investigation. #yhmcc
The new by-law version is terribly written, has broad and unlimited enforcement rules, and heavier fine for "obstruction" of physical distancing investigation. #yhmcc
As an example, as written in the By-Law, everyone is required to have their 10-person "social circle" defined and be able to provide to City who is in their "social circle". Failure to provide this information to a City investigation could be "obstruction" with a $1000 fine.
Clr Wilson noting that large protest gatherings in the US did not result in COVID transmission as some feared.
Asking questions about if the City of Hamilton need to have a by-law to enforce distancing outdoors?
Asking questions about if the City of Hamilton need to have a by-law to enforce distancing outdoors?
Clr Clark starting his questions, maybe I'm not reading this clearly, usually this indicates he's going to point to flaws in a report.
Clr Clark wants to get the new permanent physical distancing bylaw in effect as quickly as possible, including holding an emergency Council meeting to do so. Says there are bars not obeying Ontario Regulations on distancing and COVID he wants to see enforcement against.
Ward 1 Clr Wilson moving to implement an emergency compassionate grant for properties effected by flash flooding last week in West Hamilton.
Council is still meeting, now debating carrying forward Business Improvement Area funds to next year as many BIAs are unable to hold events requiring funds this year.
Clr Clark suggesting refunds, Clr Pauls takes issue with sub-claim BIAs not consulting with mbrs.
Clr Clark suggesting refunds, Clr Pauls takes issue with sub-claim BIAs not consulting with mbrs.
Council is now going into closed session.
They will discuss
- potential consequences (for taxpayers not themselves) of their Cootes cover-up
- legal battle regarding encampments
- "potential for major events in 2022/2023" (no idea what they are hiding from us on this) #HamOnt
They will discuss
- potential consequences (for taxpayers not themselves) of their Cootes cover-up
- legal battle regarding encampments
- "potential for major events in 2022/2023" (no idea what they are hiding from us on this) #HamOnt
City Council has now been in closed session for over three hours.
Long vague closed sessions are a hallmark of this Council, secrecy and cover-ups. In this case, they are talking about the Cootes cover-up.
Long vague closed sessions are a hallmark of this Council, secrecy and cover-ups. In this case, they are talking about the Cootes cover-up.
Now five hours in closed session. Will this Council meeting become yet another multi-day marathon closed session?
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
Council is back in open session. #HamOnt
After four-and-a half hours behind closed doors, will Council share any public info with the public?
On Potential for Major Events in 2021/22, which Council is claiming a closed meeting exception
Clr Nann is demanding a split vote on the matter.
Clr Nann is demanding a split vote on the matter.
On direction given to staff in closed session.
9-4 vote
New Councillors (Wilson, Nann, Danko) & Johnson oppose
(which is a huge red flag something is up)
Council votes to keep the report and information secret. #HamOnt
9-4 vote
New Councillors (Wilson, Nann, Danko) & Johnson oppose
(which is a huge red flag something is up)
Council votes to keep the report and information secret. #HamOnt
On the Council debate regarding potential charges against the City on Cootes Paradise sewage leak. (The Cootes cover-up)
Clr Jackson is concerned about the title of the report
This title gave us (the public) info Council did not want us to have.
Clr Jackson is concerned about the title of the report
This title gave us (the public) info Council did not want us to have.
The latest staff report on Cootes Paradise will remain secret. Council is unanimous on this direction.
On legal update regarding homeless encampments.
Direction to staff, report remain confidential.
11-2 vote with Collins and Jackson opposed.
Direction to staff, report remain confidential.
11-2 vote with Collins and Jackson opposed.
Thank you to everyone who stuck around until the end.
Good night.
Good night.
