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Sunder Katwala Profile picture
@sundersays
Sep 13, 2020 • 18 tweets • 6 min read • Read on X
Its ridiculous that the Sunday Times would print this factually risible claim with nobody spotting it. There are several polls on this, from YouGov, Opinium, Number Cruncher Politics, Focaldata, ComResSavanta
Here is a June meno with the initial Opinium data
YouGov in June
ITV/NCP in July
Focaldata poll of ethnic minorities

Another YouGov poll in July
If Liddle could use Google, he could even have cherry picked some findings to support his own views

YouGov on footballers taking the knee and wearing the logo
I guess Liddle may also have made up the quote, as I doubt there can be many actual pollsters who do think there have been no polls on a topic that most pollsters have run polls on.
How embarrassing for a national newspaper to print such untrue nonsense.
Liddle has been spouting this nonsense since July without once checking whether it was true, and still hasn't found out it isn't in September
The poll findings are interesting. Two thirds of ethnic minorities see their concerns about racism well reflected in the protests. White British opinion is mixed, moderate/contingent support to fencesitting centre of gravity
You could have a rather more nuanced media debate if editors and producers were at least somewhat acquainted with these broad patterns of opinion.
I may as well submit a formal complaint. 'Accuracy'
If you just Google 'Black Lives Matter polls UK' you get a wide range of different pollsters and a range of media outlets finding different types of angles from those polls. It is extraordinary for neither Liddle himself nor the sub-editors to bother to check this at all
How did the Sunday Times, 26th July 2020, report on polling on Black Lives Matter if there has been no polling on Black Lives Matter, according to the Sunday Times today?!
Rod Liddle's mad conspiracy theory has a funny flaw. His made-up premise is BLM is v. unpopular so pollsters won't run a poll to show that. Presumably, another premise is the Daily Mail couldn't afford a poll to show this! (Nb, so many polls on the Proms) (+ on XR. + on BLM).
First time I have actually submitted an IPSO complaint.

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There is a persistent pattern of CCHQ/government investigations burying very serious issues (including credible allegations of criminality) until they act rapidly, after exposure in the media, months after knowing the content
Peter Bone: party did not investigate for 5 years
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Spoke to Guardian about this. My view is politics of dealignment have been v successful for Labour - advancing most where weaker - & & time for a change will hold most core votes too. Bigger challenge to come in trying to retain that coalition in power theguardian.com/politics/2024/…
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In 2024 this is an "every silver lining has a cloud" thought. No risk to 99%+ of Lab-held seats, though Greens hope to challenge in Bristol. A 10%+ swing would sweep all target seats

Maybe turnout worries with young voters if many people thought result was foregone conclusion.
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Sunday Telegraph news report on a poll of British Muslim attitudes, with comments from Fiyaz Mughal responding to it. This survey found that 4/10 Muslim respondents say Hamas did not commit atrocities on October 7th. Thread on these findings follows.
telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/0…
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Mar 23
Interesting report on the nuances of public views of equality and diversity. While there is general support in principle, this research suggest a number of ways that could broaden/sustain support, defuse polarisation & above all put more focus into things that are effective.
6/10 people think equality/diversity a good thing, five times more than bad thing

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Does it make a difference? A plurality 46% to 28% that it does.

I would tend towards a more "it depends" - or it could lead to fairer outcomes if it was done effectively. Nb there is not a broad/deep conservative opposition against the progressive enthusiasm Image
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I think @TiceRichard will surely need to drop Mr Beau Dade as a Reform parliamentary candidate by tonight after Tice's interview yesterday about the Conservatives being too slow in taking 2 days to call Frank Hester racist
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