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Sunder Katwala Profile picture
@sundersays
Sep 13, 2020 • 18 tweets • 6 min read • Read on X
Its ridiculous that the Sunday Times would print this factually risible claim with nobody spotting it. There are several polls on this, from YouGov, Opinium, Number Cruncher Politics, Focaldata, ComResSavanta
Here is a June meno with the initial Opinium data
YouGov in June
ITV/NCP in July
Focaldata poll of ethnic minorities

Another YouGov poll in July
If Liddle could use Google, he could even have cherry picked some findings to support his own views

YouGov on footballers taking the knee and wearing the logo
I guess Liddle may also have made up the quote, as I doubt there can be many actual pollsters who do think there have been no polls on a topic that most pollsters have run polls on.
How embarrassing for a national newspaper to print such untrue nonsense.
Liddle has been spouting this nonsense since July without once checking whether it was true, and still hasn't found out it isn't in September
The poll findings are interesting. Two thirds of ethnic minorities see their concerns about racism well reflected in the protests. White British opinion is mixed, moderate/contingent support to fencesitting centre of gravity
You could have a rather more nuanced media debate if editors and producers were at least somewhat acquainted with these broad patterns of opinion.
I may as well submit a formal complaint. 'Accuracy'
If you just Google 'Black Lives Matter polls UK' you get a wide range of different pollsters and a range of media outlets finding different types of angles from those polls. It is extraordinary for neither Liddle himself nor the sub-editors to bother to check this at all
How did the Sunday Times, 26th July 2020, report on polling on Black Lives Matter if there has been no polling on Black Lives Matter, according to the Sunday Times today?!
Rod Liddle's mad conspiracy theory has a funny flaw. His made-up premise is BLM is v. unpopular so pollsters won't run a poll to show that. Presumably, another premise is the Daily Mail couldn't afford a poll to show this! (Nb, so many polls on the Proms) (+ on XR. + on BLM).
First time I have actually submitted an IPSO complaint.

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Just about every single thing this headteacher states so confidently - her hunches - in this thread about public attitudes is wrong , if she only did the homework first to check what actual public attitudes are. as @jydenham of Centre for English Identity has shown
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@Miss_Snuffy In 2012, this was important to be white data by England. Scotland and Wales. The English data shifts when this is re-run in 2019 and 2020-21. Fewer people think what @Miss_Snuffy and her teachers (apparently on pure hunches and zero data) claim that most people think Image
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Elon Musk supports terrorism. He objects to 7.5 years for man who created Southport Wake-Up Group, proposed mosque as the target, championed attacking the police their, **took part in the real world violence, carrying a knife**, and promoted the list of 40 targets for violence Image
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You would obviously go to prison in America for organising and participating in riots on this scale (even if the President Elect might later pardon you if the violence had a political motive of overturning an election and trying to intimidate or hang the vice president)
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It weird that @GoodwinMJ could believe the false claim there was no media coverage of grooming before 2011. He wrote a book on the BNP. The extensive media 2004 coverage of Annie Hall's Channel 4 film about grooming being rescheduled could be used to support some of his points
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I hope mainstream supporters of farmers/countryside alliance will challenge effort by overt racists of the Homeland Party to associate themselves with the protest. Extreme racism of Mr Laws (who seeks to deport *all* migrants *and* Uk-born minorities) obvs not shared by farmers! Image
I trust many farmers would on a values basis to reject his persistent calls for Sunak, Badenoch & myself to be deported (on grounds that minorities can never be British).

Opposition from farmers to his call to remove all migrants would also reflect a practical self-interest!
I doubt the organisers can do a great deal in advance about toxic racist fringe elements choosing to turn up.

Once such an overtly racist group does seek to use it for publicity & interviews, I think it is reasonable to ssk the decent mainstream organisers to disassociate
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Policy Exchange's A Portrait of Modern Britain (2024) @rakibehsan & @IGMansfield offer a constructive centre-right response to Britain's growing ethnic diversity in a society where patterns of progress to equal opps & the discrimination which persists are more complex
It is a follow-up to the 2014 report of the same title coauthored by a young Rishi Sunak.

I took part in this Westminster Hour discussion with Sunak. I think perhaps his very first national media interview about politics

Yes to recommendation 1. New govt should have a national integration strategy (identifying its own role/responsibility for key foundations). Should respect difference in a liberal society, promote equal opportunities & work on what brings us together
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Obviously Laws is entirely racist. He does not accept that Badenoch or Sunak are British.

Laws got 0.4% of the vote in Dover in July. Image
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The tweet itself isn't racist seems exceptionally naive when it is a matter of record that Laws primary goal/priority is the deportation of all ethnic minority Britons, including Badenoch, Sunak and myself Image
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