The open and clear anti-Black sentiment forming in supporters of TJ current system, which produced 0 black applicants is disappointing.
You all keep casually coming to the students that Black students just can’t cut while knowing many TJ have similar characteristics:
1. Their parents paid for prep and/or 2. They moved to high income homes to be zoned for particular middle schools known for high acceptance rates
It’s not that our Black students can’t measure up. It’s that the deck is stacked and the probability of a student who lacks inside information on the TJ process getting the right prep book, studying in the right way, and producing the same outcome is low
We see Olympic athletes move all the time to elite training facilities because it puts them in the position to be successful. We also see TJ hungry parents move their kids to different schools and invest in tutors then pretend we all have a fair shot
Stop putting your kids in positions then claiming our students can’t cut it. You claim you want a race blind system then pretend our kids are deficient knowing there is a reason you all spend $$$ for multiple seasons a week
I’m not saying it’s wrong- I am saying cut the crap and acknowledge that
Saying a merit based system should not be based on wealth and show be examined for racial bias when it produces a predictable outcome of exclusion is absurd...
Once again and for the people in the back:
If a test produces the same racial exclusion over and over it is statistically likely that system may have something driving that outcome. That’s basic mathematical principles. It’s not higher level math
What we see is you all using test prep, then pretending the system is all merit. If it was all merit then why did so many of you feel the need to invest in test prep. You did it for a predictable outcome
You also know based on the checks you are cutting that many students can’t afford it
So you pretend well anyone could achieve what we achieved if they just work hard and study. Knowing the probability of that is low
Here’s something we can do right now @ssurovell to clear this right up. Ask TJ to survey its existing classes and have them disclose if they used a test prep tutor- make sure they sign the honor system when answering the survey
Or let’s ask follow up questions to every parent who speaks out in favor, “how much money did you spend on book, materials, tutors?” And also, “how many hours did your students devote to prep” because we all know time freedom is a privilege some students don’t have
Let’s cut the crap. You know this system is not based on merit, otherwise you wouldn’t be investing in test prep to lock in an outcome
You know it’s statistically unlikely that every Black student is doesn’t cut it in terms of merit. It’s more likely that a racial bias exist or test prep that isn’t affordable causes the outcome... stop the bs
I don’t like the anti-Asian sentiment around TJ and have been vocal around it. But I am also tired of TJ supporters turning our kids in to charity cases that are deficient while you knowingly invest in test prep
And I’m tired of you all saying by letting in Black students we are asking for weaker standards. Have you all not seen hidden figures... are you unaware of Africa’s role in the math throughout history
We are capable- your system is rigged. We aren’t asking for weaker standards and diluted curriculum- just fair ones
And if your students are as gifted and got in on merit then why are you threatened by that? Oh is it that you may lose advantages... got it
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Those stories about kids getting a million in scholarships or a ton of scholarships are actually an indication of inequity
A small % of students get all the big scholarships and others will get little to nothing
I see it all the time. One student getting SIGNIFICANTLY MORE than what they need- I’ve had students get $$$,$$$ or $$,$$$ in excess because we apply for anything and everything
Other students, im talking over 4.0 gpa, getting nothing. Like $0 or low amounts
Scholarships tend to pick the same bright star over and over
And no shade to the bright star but it’s frustrating because when that student decides on a school and foregoes the scholarships we rarely see redistribution of the scholarship
@balderdashHere4@DeeSTEM_Teach@RachelLitLady1@MoniseLSeward Lets reframe away from irresponsible. I went to law school and have significantly more debt than this. Everyone believed giving me at 23 debt that would take 20-25 years to pay off was responsible
People encouraged it. You’ll pay it all back quickly they said
@balderdashHere4@DeeSTEM_Teach@RachelLitLady1@MoniseLSeward It’s actually almost impossible to graduate undergrad now with less than 100k yet the colleges throwing students into debt have millions if not billions in endowment and spend millions marketing to students saying it’s worth it.
And I’m not talking we want you to score around in the range of
I am talking there are colleges I’ve seen tell a student to retake the ACT because they were 1-2 points off or the score was a 1180 and they want 1200. Students who are NCAA eligible but go until score met
To be clear not everyone does this. I’ve had coaches say “close enough” and I had coaches ask “you think (athlete) is academically ready, worried about the score” and had them realize this score isn’t a reflection of their academic ability
4. Then tell students reviewing with and without certain scores is normal- some schools have test others don’t, some people have AP, others IB, others have standardize scores 5. Tell students some students have some classes others don’t, some students have opportunities
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6. Essentially explain there is not this “if all things are equal” and “a student who has the higher score will get the slot” 7. Explain how test were used and how that’s change 8. Explain this is not out of pity for certain students
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I have students deciding how much to pay for undergraduate, where to go, and whether it’s worth it to go to a more prestigious school to better chances of med school
I only know hidden cost of law school (bar exam, living expenses)