Thread: It's college ratings week, and in our business, we know that means USNWR.

I don't blame USNWR: They simply identified something colleges probably should be doing, but were reluctant to, and did it themselves. For profit.
But of course they're silly. @Gladwell Malcolm Gladwell does a good job of tearing them apart in his @NewYorker article, here: newyorker.com/magazine/2011/…
If you don't want to read the whole thing, here's the point that proves the premise: Image
But we sort of pretend the rankings are new. They aren't. The popularity of them is new. The rankings have been around for a while.

Consider: Image
This was written in 1911 by Kendric Charles Babcock, who wanted to look at those universities that sent or might send students to the master's degree. It was a single, easy-to-understand rating criterion. It's available here in different formats archive.org/details/classi…
I don't know about college attainment in 1911, but in 1940, about 3% of adults had a college degree, so master's degree attainment must have been something very special in 1911. See also HS Grads. highereddatastories.com/2019/08/change… Image
The methodology was strictly qualitative. He or his designees traveled to selected institutions to conduct interviews. Six of them were Ivy League (if the Ivy League even existed then I don't care and I don't want to know so don't @ me) Image
Class I. Image
Class II. Image
Class III Image
Class IV Image
Here is the page of the Ms for instance Image
There are others. My favorites are from 1957 in the Chicago Daily Tribune, written by Chesly Manly, whose name is evocative of someone who might know this stuff in 1957. The top school for men? ImageImage
Also rans? Wesleyan, Union, Kenyon, Amherst, and Hamilton. Here is the full article in pdf dropbox.com/s/e5gc7tfdztjx…
Women's rankings: Image
Radcliffe, Pembroke, Goucher, Wellesley, and Vassar were also mentioned. That article is here dropbox.com/s/u33mgicx9led…
Co-ed? ImageImage
Lawrence, Carleton, Swarthmore, also got mentions.

dropbox.com/s/hj11hjsa2x4k…
I include these all as Fair Use, btw.
And here is a picture of our author, Chesly Manly Image
Rankings have been around for a while. And they haven't changed much over time. Read those articles and you'll see why. I think. Enjoy.

And don't get your shorts in a knot about them.
If they like your college, it's OK to mention it. If they don't, it's OK to disparage them.
Oh, and #EMTalk

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Thread: If people want to talk about public universities going out-of-state to generate revenue, just remember public education used to be adequately funded and mostly free for residents until this guy convinced people in California that was a bad idea. Image
And remember that access to high quality public education was most likely at the core of an amazing ramp up of educational attainment in the US (in 1940, only about 4% of adults had college degrees).

highereddatastories.com/2021/11/a-diff…
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And that led to an amazing rise in wealth, GDP, and other economic measures in the US, post WW II. If Median Family income had risen just at the rate of inflation since 1953, it would have been at $44.6K instead of $92.7K in 2021. Image
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Aug 29
Thread: We're hearing about male college enrollment again. And yes, it's going down. Is it a crisis? Maybe.

But there are stories beneath the data.
First, people often equate "enrollment" with "first-time, full-time enrollment of 18-year-olds." They are decidedly not the same. Let's take a look at my institution, Oregon State as an example.
Our total enrollment will be about 38,000 next month (we've not started classes yet, as we're on the quarter system). Traditional freshmen? About 4,600, or roughly 12% of the total.
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Counselors are not happy with @CollegeBoard who seems to turn a deaf ear, and who seems to want to force high schools' hand to offer more free labor and space via School Day Testing, all in service to the Highly Rejectives. (used with permission and redacted for privacy).
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This is what our HS colleagues go through to give the highly rejectives a teeny, tiny little more confidence in allocating their precious admissions slots.

Those institutions and College Board hoist the entire cost of their demands onto high schools and volunteers.
As indicated, it seems absurd when College Board (a nominally not-for-profit) had positive bottom lines averaging about $125M in the last two years available.

pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/202…
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Feb 7
Thread: It seems I'm spending more time telling people why I'm not too interested in the Dartmouth decision than it would take to just put it here. So here goes. I hope this is the last I'll say about it.
First, I've long said that if a college finds value in the SAT, they would be foolish not to use it. I just ask that they do the research, which Dartmouth did. And the lowest-scoring students at Dartmouth end up with a GPA of 3.1 or something like that. Horrible.
I am--frankly--a little suspicious of analysis that shows the SAT is better than HS GPA, because you know damn well if College Board or ACT could make that claim, they'd have done so long ago. They've never even whispered it.
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Thread: Post-May 1, aka the death of May 1:

A friend sent this Image
This is the result of the DOJ investigating the NACAC Statement of Principles of Good Practice, which would have allowed this if the student had not withdrawn, but would have forbidden it if the student had notified the offering school that they had deposited elsewhere.
The DOJ treated college just like any other consumer purchase: Suppose car dealers agreed the Subaru dealer could not call you while you were on the way to the Ford dealer to buy the car you had agreed to buy, and offer you a better deal?

That would be bad for consumers.
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Thread: When someone tells you about the big drop in high school graduates, remember 2014. Because by 2037, we'll be back to numbers like we saw in 2014. Image
What's really compelling is the mix: America will be more diverse, and because different ethnic groups have different college participation rates, that's the big thing going on behind the numbers. Image
And, of course, New England has known this for a long time. Image
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