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Sep 15, 2020 13 tweets 9 min read Read on X
There has never been more confusion about the role of children in transmission of #SARSCoV2 , and tensions are running high over implications for #schoolsreopening

Time for some clarity

@Damian_Roland and I review ALL the evidence on @DFTBubbles

dontforgetthebubbles.com/the-missing-li…

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When considering transmission risk we must consider 2 classes of factors;

Non-modifiable: The biology of the host and pathogen

Modifiable: Behavioural or environmental influence

Since we can change the latter via policy/guidance etc, we'll focus on the former

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How easily to children catch the virus?

Household contact tracing studies suggest less easily than adults; by about half given the same exposure, based on 4 reviews of all the evidence (links in next tweet)

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There are some suggestions for biases to explain these findings why this might be the case

Some of these are not correct (e.g. "irrelevant because schools closed" or "cases missed because not symptomatic") and none explain the effect size

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Whilst seroprevalence can't tell us about susceptibility (some effects will be due to exposure), most representative studies have found lower rates of seropositivity in children which would support these findings

The findings are more pronounced in young children (<10y)

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What about infectiousness once infected?

This is much harder

We have some indirect evidence from studies of viral loads, suggesting they are broadly similar in children, including those asymptomatic

But we want to know what happens in real life

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2 studies on the same data from South Korea (one adjusting for shared exposure, the other not) seemed to suggest a very low attack rate from infected children, in the setting of extreme infection prevention measures

wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26…

adc.bmj.com/content/early/…

9/13
A further study from Trento, Italy, seemed to suggest children might be more contagious than adults, but this study has some important biases (covered below)

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…



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What else could contribute to infectiousness?

Well there's some evidence infectiousness is correlated with symptoms, and as ~50% of children may be asymptomatic, this might reduce their contribution to transmission

medrxiv.org/content/10.110…


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What about within schools themselves?

Well, we've covered that too in detail, but see separate thread for studies on school transmission here



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Conclusions
-Children about half as susceptible
-Have roughly same amount of virus
-May be less infectious, ?due to less symptoms
-Lots to learn once schools open

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Jul 28
Interesting rebuttal here from @VPrasadMDMPH to punches thrown initially by @adamcifu on the new masking RCT

Lots to like in this piece, but I believe Vinay is very wrong about something in a way that is difficult to see

The placebo effect

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Vinay points correctly to the bias prone endpoint of self reported URTI symptoms and implies the entire difference between groups could be due to “the placebo effect”

The problem is, this is almost
certainly not a result of placebo

It’s detection or ascertainment bias

2/
Vinay describes as much in his piece, when he mentions different interpretations of vague symptoms between people with or without masks depending on their beliefs

Wear a mask and wake up tired? Probably nothing

Not been wearing a mask? Could be the start of something…

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Jul 25
Incredible study 🇳🇴

RCT of surgical masks for reducing respiratory infections

Wearing a mask for 14d reduced onset of symptoms of respiratory infection (OR 0.71, 0.58-0.87)

Absolute risk difference of ~3%

What does this mean?

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First, it shows RCTs of population implementation of interventions like masks is of course possible

In fact it is necessary and important to appropriately determine effect size

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Second, it shows surgical masks ARE effective at an individual level in the short term of reducing some respiratory infections

Excellent news - although we cannot delineate between respiratory viruses which may behave differently (long range aerosol vs contact etc)

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Jun 10
New study of paxlovid for Post Acute Symptoms of Covid (PASC - also known as "long covid")

It's quite an interesting study actually

Here are my brief thoughts

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The rationale behind this is that some have postulated PASC could be due to viral persistence - SARS-CoV-2 hanging around when it should have been cleared

Anti-virals might help clear the virus and resolve symptoms

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The evidence base behind this theory is far from clear, but given the general mess of evidence in the field this seemed like a reasonable trial

It could also serve as possible therapeutic diagnosis (if it works, it gives evidence towards the possible cause)

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Jan 11
A few interesting points of data which help us to evaluate some theories re Covid

1) RSV season is now ending in England with the most "normal" wave since the pandemic

Covid related immune problems causing more severe RSV is in the bin 🗑️

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2) Covid may be peaking (possibly plateauing) with the LOWEST prevalence (via mass testing survey) in all age groups being in school aged children

Schools being unsafe, children being disproportionately affected or spreaders of Covid is in the bin🗑️

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3) Covid infection to hospitalisation rate by far the lowest we've seen during the pandemic

We can totally bin the idea Covid infections become increasingly severe, or of a meaningful increase in severity from current variants 🗑️🗑️🗑️

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May 3, 2023
This article about masking and RCTs is extremely confused and appears to totally misunderstand everything about clinical trials

I will put to one side the dreadful title (which presumably the authors didn't choose) and explain some of the most important errors in thinking

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First of all, the idea Science "couldn't" produce the answers we needed is false

We are perfectly capable of producing high quality, relevant clinical trials in this area

We just didn't

There are no excuses for this, it's a massive failure

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Second, the idea that the RCTs asked questions they couldn't answer is also false

They set out to answer very specific questions, and they provided useful answers to those questions

If those are not the questions you WANT answered, then we need MORE trials to do that

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Jan 17, 2023
What's happening with GAS in the UK?

The surge has caused a great deal of anxiety and got a lot of attention

Quick update on the situation following new data and some great new analyses

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alasdairmunro.substack.com/p/group-a-stre…
Updated data from UKHSA tells us a few things

Firstly, the data on scarlet fever is now not useful, as it basically just represents awareness

Probably massive overdiagnosis at the peak, no idea where it truly is now

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The data on invasive GAS (iGAS) is more useful as requires microbiological confirmation

Cases have been very high, but possibly flat or declining - difficult to know due to reporting lag, but this is the feeling on the ground

Case fatality still normal, most deaths >65y

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