I am making the implied point that the system is seriously broken. Trump has pushed it to the breaking point. What happens next is consequential & fundamental.
Tr is no answer to the problem, but has used the problem to destroy any ability to actually address much
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 2/ fix the deep problems we have. If you do not understand this, that
a) in the present tense there are only two power centers at the national level.
b) one is daily working to dismantle the ability to have a functioning democracy, the other is not.
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 3/ As such any effort that supports Trump for any reason is essentially a vote for Trump. If Trump(ism) is to be resisted there is no other force other than the Democratic Party ....At this point in time.
If you need to consider what Tr has done to protesters already...not only
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 4/ in sending out the military and other forces, but the promise to do more and with more draconian actions... Under what possible scenario do you think that if Tr regains power, and is reinstantiated and essentially validated in his use of power, along with tearing down the
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 5/ foundational structures of, for example, Rule of Law... If he is validated in his ideas/positions re these matters what do you suppose will happen post election at the next protest?
He has already told us. "I will send out the military and crush it in 5minutes."
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 6/ My argument to you, to the original post, to all who think there is no difference , nothing more than the same thing , is to say you are not paying attention to reality.
Our political system at large is broken. Maybe hopelessly so. We'll find out. If Trump is reelected,
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 7/ however it happens: through people like yourselves declining to participate, thinking it makes no difference because "its all hellbound", or through voter suppression, or Russian tampering or any reason whatsoever...
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 8/ If Trump wins we will have slipped a little closer to the pattern of all authoritarian takeovers.
They are elected, and then dismantle the function of elections and democracy entirely.
If you are unaware of this let me know, I'll detail it for you.
Or study @TimothyDSnyder
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 9/ I responded in detail to another version of this retort that I simply am being contradictory.
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 10/ Read more of my actual posts, instead of simple accusations, here. I think you'll find that at the level of issues we may not be so far apart as the particular issue of what do to about it might seem.
@antiwar011@MiraiMirain@caitoz 11/ This for sure. There are no easy answers. And all the answers that present are fraught with uncertainty... and now are seeming to lead to increased violence, no matter the outcome.
This also is part of the pattern of authoritarian take over of a democracy.
That is my point.
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As if we need more proof & discourse re the absolute incompetence of Trump... But we do. We are desperate for it. The violent, vindictive, angry man is a threat.
So here: a serious, in-depth report re details generally only superficially known/understood.
The really amazing thing is how many citizens have been infected with this blood lust level of seething violence, ready to break out on command.
It has been seen once. The fires seem to be stoked & hotter.
Just the appeal to violence should be evidence enough of the unadulterated disqualification of this tribe of would-be Huns, from ever being given power.
Trump, & all that wave his flag, are unworthy of the position they seek to occupy. Along with his and their hopes to destroy
One of the core principles making America unique & is foundational to Every Single Thing good about America is the separation of the Religious from the Civil.
When this distinction is breached there is no more America, but Giliad.
Religion has to thrive on its own... and be utterly independent of the power that is invested in the Civil Governmental structure.
When Religion longs for that power, & then couples with it to form a unified power base there is no more anything that resembles America.
The Devil's own bargain made with the original so-called "moral majority" - a profoundly flawed & misnamed movement, but as profoundly effective in the Machiavellian move- was to abandon Christ & Christian principles for the power offered to them by the political establishment.
There is an Achilles heel in the axioms of democracy enabling its attackers to use the system to destroy the system.
Exampled w Tr: The difficulty of the Justice system to respond to that level of criminality, the system does not know how to deal with that quality of malevolence.
This is the essence of the argument of the book "How Democracies Perish" written in the '80s.
It is happening in Europe and democracies across the world. The assault by those who take power & then use that power to deny any challenge to their power.
We are in embroiled in the
conflict in ways that are just now becoming clear & obvious.
Witness NC. Wisconsin. Extreme gerrymandering, as well as the outright statements made by the MAGA "American Taliban".
Fox "news" is exposed. As is the current leader, Trump.
& etc. The war reports are well known now.
Every system has its Achilles heel;the axioms & premises upon which the structure of the system is built. The system has remedies built in but the constitutional design could not also have addressed the condition that each of the main branches of gov would capitulate like this.
In order for the system to deal with the constitutional axioms concerning the 3 main aspects of government & the underlying power and also to add all the qualifications if breached would have made the constitution, not the bedrock structure it is, but just another book of laws.
Like other countries whose "constitutions" run into hundreds of pages, Law displaces Principles as an expression of the values of the society.
And that society, country whose laws are more numerous, trying to nail down every exception, is increasingly corrupt.
Stepping back from the scrum, notice how the storyline coalesced. You could see how the "maddening coverage"/Trumpers were trying to find a hook of a story to drill into the brain of the country.
Settled on "planted evidence". Now that has become the "fact" pounded into the [->]
public square. Watching all the lines being tested, then settling on this one, then the increase in volume by Rand Paul, and others where it is not a question but the certain insinuation.
All of a sudden what happened hardly matters. It is absolute proof that the gov is out ->
to get Trump. No matter or thought that there are reasons & facts that are creating these events.
This is the playbook. Happened with the ACA, under Obama. Remember the TeaParty? and the shrill townhall meetings? ...
Or the "BrooksBro" riots?
As a point this is great.
The systemic problem is these "insights" from "conservatives" are so often based on their personal experience, not principles or reasoning
When GOP members are personally affected they find the "courage" to voted against the bellicose dogma of the party.
Problem with this is we cannot depend upon there being enough GOP members with personal experience, and the ability to even care enough to overcome their "Scarlet Letter" certainty & severity, if they do.
The [so called] Supreme Court has slipped into this RightWing modality of thinking what they think is "Right" (and Righteous) for the simple expedient of them thinking they think it.
So Alito will cite 200yo texts & a fake reading of "originalism" to make the case.....