@MilitantVerbal@SalafisUnveiled@Al_Herawi@PonderingSpiri3@theshishaking O I'm not uncomfortable. Far from it. I've sat here and watched you commit intellectual suicide. I studied Buhuti's quote AT LENGTH last year because MIAW used it & his brother Sheikhul Islam Suleiman gave him a proverbial slap in the face when he exposed him...
@MilitantVerbal@SalafisUnveiled@Al_Herawi@PonderingSpiri3@theshishaking ... by showing both the context & MIAW's ignorance of basic Arabic grammar. Inshallah a thread is coming on this & when it hits I hope it will teach you to have more humility in your speech. "You're twice my level"? Sure. I don't care. I'm an idiot, a fool, a sinner. But..
Now I know you never read this quote directly from the actual book. Because if you had read the full quote in it's wider context of the discussion, and if you knew that Buhuti didn't actually say it but was quoting...
@MilitantVerbal@SalafisUnveiled@Al_Herawi@PonderingSpiri3@theshishaking ... an earlier authority, who himself was quoting an even earlier authority, who (if you go back to the original book) you realise was speaking about genuine shirk and NOT Muslims making intercession with the deceased, you would not have quoted it.
So where did you get the quote from? You blindly followed a Salafi website didn't you? Which suggests that..
@MilitantVerbal@SalafisUnveiled@Al_Herawi@PonderingSpiri3@theshishaking ... you're not interested in truth, but in finding material to win an argument. If you were interested in truth you would have applied the same METHDOLOGICAL SUSPICION and SCRUTINY to what you read from that website as you do to my statements...
You may deny being a Salafi, but you sure behaving like one & quoting their sources. People are known and JUDGED BY THEIR BELIEFS, not by the name badge they were. And your beliefs are Salafi.
@MilitantVerbal@SalafisUnveiled@Al_Herawi@PonderingSpiri3@theshishaking I tried to be polite when this started, but misusing ulema's statements to "refute" and likening a believer to a mushrik gets you ZERO respect. Allah does not cause such a diseased judgement to enter a person's heart except that He has disgraced them! And you are disgraceful.
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1) The Salafi conflates "rububiyyah" with "tawhid ur-rububiyyah".
Tawhid ur-rububiyyah is to ascribe ALL attributes of Lordship to Allah alone. Ascribing 1 attribute of rububiyyah to Allah is not TAWHID ur-rububiyyah. Come on Salafis! It's a simple point about numbers.
2) @SalafisUnveiled showed you that even IF the mushriks ascribed 1 attribute of rububiyyah to Allah as the Creator they also believed their idols were creators. Belief in multiple Creators = belief in multiple LORDS = SHIRK ur-rububiyyah.
1/6) The hadiths by Abu Dawud and Khatib al-baghdad tell us that the 1 sect of out of the 73 that's saved is As-Sawadul Adham (The Vast Majority). The 4 schools of fiqh and the 3 schools of creed have always represented the majority.
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@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah 2/6) Salafiyyah know they're a minority and to protect themselves they reproduce statements from the salaf to suggest that the minority in the Ummah can be the saved sect. Ibn Mas'ud's statement was said to ulema who lived in Baghdad during the emergence of an early heresy.
@FloidHidden @ali_aqeedah 3/6) He was reassuring them that even if the whole city falls under heresy, you two represent the majority which is spread all over the Muslim world. Just because one city or town falls into heresy does not mean the entire Ummah from China to Spain have sunk into heresy as well.
@SalafisUnveiled@AlShurahbeel A jamāʿ is represented by it's beliefs. If those beliefs are kufr, the jamāʿ is kufr. But the individuals within it cannot be judged kuffār. If they have affirmed the shahada they are regarded as Muslims - even if they claim affiliation to that jamā...
@SalafisUnveiled@AlShurahbeel Every Muslim is, by default, presumed innocent if they manifest kufr by the following excuses:
@SalafisUnveiled@AlShurahbeel These excuses are impediments [manāwiʿ] to making takfīr on that person. The impediments are presumed to be in place for everyone & takfīr can only be made when each of them are "lifted". The only one with the jurisdiction to lift them is an elite jurist [mujtahid]...
[1-8] ilāh & rabb are inseparable
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• MIAW redefined ilāh
• used this to redefine the shahada
• made takfir on anyone who disagreed
[15-19] contradicted the Salaf
[20-21] killed Muslims who opposed him
[22-24] Review
Salafis, it's normal to be upset when your beliefs are challenged. But a bricked-wall defensiveness is a sign that Allah left you misguided. Before reading, please make a duʿa for guidance, from wherever it may be🤲
Sunnis, be generous of character: the truth is on your side.
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The word god [ilāh] is sometimes defined as that which is “worthy of wor-ship”.
Allah is the only one worthy of worship.
Why? Because He is the LORD of all existence. It is His Lordship (creator, sustainer, cause of harm and benefit) that makes Him WORTHY of worship.📖
Forgive me brother, but I fail to understand the Salafi distinction between tawassul (e.g. using your good deeds = halal) and istighatha (using a wali/prophet = shirk)...
Salafis say: istighathah or tawassul with the living is halal because they're “alive, hearing & can fulfil your need” but with a dead person it’s shirk because they can’t hear and are motionless...