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Sep 24, 2020 20 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Now @AmerAcadPeds has released guidance on return to sports for kids after COVID:

Lots of thoughts below

h/t @drjohnm

medscape.com/viewarticle/93…
Physical activity and sports participation can have many health benefits which is recognized in the guidance:

services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-…
They also make a clear statement that COVID19 testing prior to sports participation isn't necessary unless there are symptoms
They recommend measures to reduce potential for spread like practicing in small pods, minimizing travel, cleaning touch points, etc.
They recommend wearing face coverings by all coaches, officials, spectators. Athletes should wear them when arriving and departing. They do recognize that masks may not be possible for some types of vigorous exercise.
They recommend that kids who have very severe infections needing things like ECMO, ventilators, etc, be treated as if they have myocarditis and sit out of exercise for 3-6 months.
My opinion: judicious, symptom limited exercise is probably reasonable earlier. 3-6 months of completely avoiding activity can have long term negative effects on health.
They also suggest that EKG, echo, Holter, ETT and possibly CMR "must have returned to normal, before return to activity"

This is a *a lot* of testing with potential for diagnostic cascades and resultant harm.
Kids w/ moderate disease need to by asymptomatic for 14 days and obtain PCP clearance (including an ECG) before return to exercise.

What is moderate? they aren't clear but they hint that prolonged fever is one. I'm not sure what duration counts as prolonged fever.
Most problematic: kids who have mild or asx infections or even close contact with an infected person need to sit out of exercise for at least 14 days.

Lots of folks have had positive contacts, some are high risk and others are not (duration and type of exposure).
Do all of them need to stop exercise for 2 weeks?

How many of them will not resume exercise at all after such a break?
In this setting, how sensitive is EKG?

There is no mention of troponin. Is this purposeful? Is it recommended against?
What does meeting criteria for myocarditis mean if the patient has no symptoms or signs of it? Especially if the only finding is on CMR?
Most critically, what is the baseline event rate of sudden cardiac death in young adults?
Given CMR diagnosed myocarditis is associated with 2-3X increased risk, what would this imply about the risk in the *subset* of kids with mild cases who also may happen to meet CMR criteria?
Overall I find these recommendations quite problematic.

They carry real risk of creating more harm than benefit.

They are also based on almost no data. No citations, strength of recommendations or level of evidence is provided.
That said, the basic recommendations of wearing masks, distancing, cleaning, etc are good.

They break down when it comes to what to do for asx, mild, and even moderate cases.

Severe cases will definitely have to build their strength back
An important caveat: I'm not a pediatric cardiologist. I'm an adult cardiologist with focus in cardiac imaging and preventive cardiology.

My comments are based on my experience in caring for *adult* heart patients.
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Important post-script: given obesity, hypertension, diabetes & cardiovascular disease are consistent risk factors for COVID, it seems to me that we should be cautious in advice that could decrease physical activity and increase obesity.

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Jan 4, 2023
I am hearing from primary care colleagues that parents are concerned their kids are playing competitive sports without EKG/echos.

More valuable than that would be to mandate no games/practice without AED + CPR trained coach, trainer, and/or official present.

Here is why 👇

1/
Screening for underlying issues in fit teens and young adults is low value. The findings are almost always normal and even when they appear abnormal they are usually false positives.

2/
These kids will end up having lots of expensive & potentially invasive testing which will either lead nowhere or lead to an incorrect recommendation not to exercise at a high level. This is tragic and wasteful.

Imagine incorrectly being told you can't play a sport you love!

3/
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Jan 3, 2023
To be honest, this is even more complex than the factors in my initial thread. Been rounding so couldn't give it enough detail, but here are few more...

1/
A baseball will deposit that energy in a smaller surface area than a human head generally will. The concentration of that energy is required because if parts of it are not over the heart they won't cause a cardiac problem

2/
The deformation issue is also more complex.

Not only does deformation reduce the energy transferred, it spreads out the time over which the energy is transferred making it more likely part of the energy is deposited outside the vulnerable period.

3/
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Jan 3, 2023
Generally trauma to the chest from person-person deposits only a small amount of energy into the heart compared to small hard objects like a baseball or motor vehicle collisions.

The amount of energy is proportional to the square of the velocity of the impact.

1/
There is a huge difference in the square of 90+ MPH fastball (9025 mph-squared) version a 10 MPH person (100 mph-squared) - nearly 100x!

Mass also matters, but the effective mass is not necessarily entire mass of person impacting but unsupported mass, depending on geometry.

2/
Also, some energy can be lost to deformation. This is how padding works - it deforms, dissipating energy.

Humans are also somewhat deformable due to motion of joints, soft tissue, etc.

3/
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Jun 27, 2021
Why is this a bad take:

1) The self-limited troponemia referred to is not a diagnosis. The diagnosis is myocarditis, post-COVID vaccine

2) The relative awfulness of these diseases is not the only issue. Their relative frequency is not the only issue.
3) Myocarditis is a spectrum. Can range from rapidly progressive to death to mild chest pain with no further consequence. Like most diseases, the mild forms are much more common than the severe.
Read 7 tweets
May 14, 2021
Excellent summary of the status of COVID heart & how it's mostly not a thing

Cardiologists who loudly hyped this should be explaining why they got it wrong & how they will do better

Here are a few tips in mini-thread 👇

Read excellent article first:

statnews.com/2021/05/14/set…
#1 Number one reason seems to be fear

#2 Is that few MRI experts were asked before/during hype. Sports cardiologists & celebrity docs dominated the scene with weak understanding of what these tests were showing & what they showed in normal people.

Selective credentialism sucks.
#3 Early closing of the Overton window is not science. But in this fact checking culture we are quick to determine what is truth and terminate further discussion.

In this case the estimated rate of CMR findings due to COVID was probably off by 100x or more at first.
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Dec 2, 2020
What does it mean to have a healthy metabolism?

How does it relate to CVD?

These are questions @RaviShah_MD & I explored in our latest paper!

Here's a tweetorial on methods & results, which take a bit of a different approach than many prior studies.

ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.11…
We started by applying metabolomics to ~2400 people from the CARDIA study

CARDIA is a study of young adults (age 18-30) recruited ~35 yrs ago to watch the development of CVD risk factors & events.

cardia.dopm.uab.edu
We obtained plasma samples from the year 7 exam from ~2400 individuals with good representation of Black & white races, men & women.
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