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For months, COVID-19 contrarians spread misinformation about the immune system and COVID-19.
So I'll combine some rebuttal points I've made elsewhere, with a focus on T cells.





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An important concept here is 'herd immunity'.

In simplified terms:

The 'herd immunity threshold' is the number of people who need to be immune to infection, in order for 'infections per unit time' to stop increasing, at baseline.

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So for the graph below:
y-axis = # of new infections per day
x-axis = time

This is under 'baseline' conditions; i.e. people don't change their behavior in response to infection, + no further public health interventions (ex: lockdown).

At x = 10, the threshold was reached. Image
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So why would herd immunity matter to you?

Well, once the herd immunity threshold (HIT) is reached, you and everyone else can go back to *living as you did before the viral pandemic, without worrying about infections per day increasing.*

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So herd immunity sounds nice.

Unfortunately, many politically-motivated non-experts misrepresented it, since they view it as a way to dodge policies they dislike, such as lockdowns.

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Many non-expert contrarians assume that if infections per day (or hospitilzations per day, or COVID-19 deaths per day, or...) decrease, then that automatically means HIT was reached.

The contrarians typically apply this to Sweden or New York City.

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This fails b/c HIT is about baseline conditions, without public health interventions or behavior changes (in technical terms: it's about R0).

In other words: factors other than herd immunity can decrease infections per day.



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Another contrarian myth is that immune cells known as T cells greatly limit the number of infections, allowing us to reach herd immunity with less people infected.

Anyone who grasps basic immunology can debunk that, as other immunologists have:

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An analogy on this might help those unfamiliar with immunology:

A key entering a lock is somewhat analogous to a receptor binding to the receptor's target.

T cells have their T cell receptor (TCR), and immune cells known as B cells have a BCR.

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B cells also make antibodies; these small proteins float freely and bind to viruses (like a key to a lock). That can prevent the virus from infecting your cells.

The BCR is basically an antibody the B cell keeps with it to bind stuff like viruses.

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The BCR can recognize freely floating virus.

In contrast, the TCR *cannot* recognize freely-floating virus. Instead, it needs your cells to take up the virus, and then present parts of the virus on the cell's surface on a molecule known as MHC.

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To go back to our analogy:

If the virus is a key, then the BCR is a lock that fits that key, with no additional help needed.

And the TCR is a lock that only fits the key if the key has an adaptor (or keychain) attached.
MHC is the keychain.
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T cells known as CD8+ T cells kill virus-infected cells that show virus proteins on MHC.

So these T cells don't greatly limit infection: the TCR's function here *depends* on cells getting infected. That's immunology 101.

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CD4+ T cells, in contrast, don't kill certain types of cells that present virus to them.

But these CD4+ T cells limit infection by encouraging B cells to make antibodies. That flies in the face of what contrarians (who don't grasp immunology) say: Image
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So if someone makes the following claims to u, they're misleading u on immunology:

- 'T cells will help us get to herd immunity early, way beyond what we see with antibodies!'

- 'Sweden (New York City, or some other place not at baseline) achieved herd immunity!'

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Feb 23
71/J

I recently got a copy of Dr. Judith Curry's book without buying it myself.

Looking over it confirmed to me that it's largely misinformation.

I'll illustrate that by assessing its claims on COVID-19.



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To reiterate: Curry draws parallels between COVID-19 + climate change.

But some of the sources she cites suggest an ideologically convenient narrative misinformed her.

That becomes clearer when assessing her claims.




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No mention of the misinformation she + other contrarians promoted, and which conflicted with knowledge advances by experts.

(8/J - 12/J, 32J - 36/J, 44/J, 45/J, 63/J, etc.)








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Dr. Judith Curry recommends people read at least the 45-page preview of her new book.

I did.

It's bad enough I wouldn't recommend buying the book.
It's largely contrarian conspiracist misinformation.




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"Effectiveness of face masks for reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2: [...]"
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Jefferson + Heneghan don't like the papers.

Makes sense they wouldn't given their track record, especially Jefferson on the Cochrane mask review he led.







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Mar 13, 2023
69/E

A reminder, since there's a resurgence in Musk + right-wing politicians trying to score political points by saying they want Fauci prosecuted:

Musk's dislike of Fauci drove him to post an easily debunked lie (57/E, 56/, 41/)


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Still no apology from Musk for falsely smearing Grady based on untrue things he was told, or that he made up.

"Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue 'pedo' in baseless attack"
theguardian.com/technology/201…



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Another good example of the willful ignorance + baseless paranoia underlying Musk's lab leak conspiracism and his criticisms of Fauci.




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Dec 12, 2022
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Some illustrations of the pseudoskepticism that overtakes many crypto / tech bros, using the example of Elon Musk's COVID-19 claims.

"My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci"


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No, neither chloroquine nor hydroxychloroquine worked for SARS-CoV-2.

Fortunately, Fauci recommended neither in March 2020.

9:12 - 14:41 :



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Jun 8, 2022
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Thread on a myth Jay Bhattacharya (@DrJBhattacharya) continues to peddle to undermine confidence in public health agencies and to suit his policy agenda.

The myth may undermine responses to future public health emergencies.




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Some background:

The infection fatality rate (IFR) states the proportion of *SARS-CoV-2-infected* people who die of the disease COVID-19.

The case fatality rate (CFR) states the proportion of *reported cases* who die of COVID-19.

institutefordiseasemodeling.github.io/nCoV-public/an…
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Reporting systems are not perfect, so they sometimes miss infected people. That makes reported cases less than total infections, and thus CFR is higher than IFR.

The WHO was open about this since the early stages of the pandemic:

March 17, 2020:
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