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Seth Frantzman

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Dec 25

This list should have been provided a year ago. The fact that Israel was willing to sit down for a year of useless talks and that Israel’s partners such as the U.S. who also sat down in these rooms, did this without even a list is really unconscionable. It should have been the first thing delivered, even if it was provided to a neutral third party. These hostage talks have never been serious and media reports and leaks have provided false hopes for a year and it is unconscionable. A disgrace that this was allowed to happen. It also shows Hamas was never under pressure and they think they are winning and their hosts and backers such as Doha told them not to produce a list. I don’t see why these talks ever took place without one. It’s vile

Israel also got played this way during the first hostage release. It’s unclear why this method was ever agreed to. Israel is the one with the powerful military ostensibly applying pressure so it should be dictating terms.

It seems that the only way to get the list and change how these deals are structured is for Trump and his incoming team to begin to step in. I think team Trump would probably demand the list up front. There wouldn’t be this lack of clarity either Hamas running everything maybe?

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Seth Frantzman

@sfrantzman

Dec 23

This is interesting. It turns out the "genocide" claim about Israel's actions in Gaza began just days after the Hamas attack on Israel. Hamas murdered 1,000 people in a day, in an attack that was actually genocidal in its attempts to kill every person Hamas encountered.

However, it appears that very quickly, maybe within hours of the Hamas massacre beginning, people began to try to create a false narrative that Israel was the one committing "genocide." Israel hadn't even identified the huge number of dead and missing, but already scholars and others were mobilizing to accuse Israel of "genocide."

This is the origin of this claim and it is fascinating that it is laid out below in such chronology. On October 15, 2023, while Israel was still identifying the remains of the Hamas genocide of Israelis and others at Nova festival, including foreign workers; scholars warned of "potential" genocide in Gaza. Israel hadn't even begun its offensive in Gaza and this narrative was already created. This is key to understanding how the story was written with the conclusion already.

Note also that none of these scholars or experts or “consensus” seemed to care about the Hamas attack, they didn’t first investigate that attack on Oct 15 or war about Hamas genocidal attacks, they immediately moved to create a narrative of “genocide” in Gaza.

This is fascinating, and I think probably rare in history that the victims are ignored so completely and the aggressor is immediately turned into the victim. It’s like reading about the Rwandan genocide of Tutsi and being told that the real fear is of a genocide of Hutus, without even first discussing the Tutsi victims. It’s like ignoring the Darfur genocide and claiming the real fear of for people in Khartoum.

The experts didn’t even bother to investigate and condemn the Hamas crimes; they immediately claimed genocide was happening in Gaza before Israel even entered Gaza. Hamas was parading hostages around and dragging bodies through the streets and the “scholars” didn’t even notice the victims like Shani Louk, they didn’t even bother demanding the hostages including the baby and toddler Bibas brothers be returned; they ignored all the victims.

This is clearly an example of how this entire “genocide” claim was manufactured from Oct 7 onwards. With the flick of a switch the usual suspects set in motion this claim. Not based on any evidence or actions, it was a pre-determined conclusion. It’s possible that already on Oct 7 documents were written or being written and distributed to accuse Israel of genocide, not even mentioning the Hamas attack. Maybe this was coordinated at the highest levels among “human rights” groups and Doha and other perdue actors. The signal to prepare the libel was the Hamas attack.

That’s why they ignored the attack, because this was maybe pre-planned so the talking points were there. That’s why these “scholars” never seemed to even notice the victims of the Nova festival. That’s why these reports often don’t even mention the Hamas crimes.

UN experts called to “prevent genocide” on November 2, only five days after Israel’s ground offensive began. The same UN experts NEVER called to prevent Hamas from committing its genocide on October 7. Why? Why don’t they call on Hamas to stop its attacks and stop massacring people and release the hostages?

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Seth Frantzman

@sfrantzman

Dec 19

Here is a question. Medical charities that work in Gaza and NGOs such as the ICRC should have all asked for access to the hostages. It's likely that through international mediation they could have gotten access to the hostages. But have you noticed that none of the NGOs or the intl community ever even tried to do this?

There was no loss to Hamas to permit access to the hostages by NGOs or the ICRC. It wouldn't change the terms of any deal. In fact it might have strengthened Hamas hand by showing that some of the hostages are healthy.

A country or NGO that had brokered and gotten this access would have gotten a lot of support. There were a lot of opportunities for this. But it wasn't done. And it doesn't appear Israel or the US or others pressed enough for this. Why?

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Seth Frantzman

@sfrantzman

Dec 19

Overnight the Houthis launched a missile at central Israel and Israel responded with airstrikes. Here is how it unfolded

At 2:28am sirens sounded across central Israel

The IDF said:

Sirens sounded in numerous areas in central Israel following a projectile that was launched from Yemen, details to follow.

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Seth Frantzman

@sfrantzman

Dec 18

What is the “pro-Palestinian front”? I would think being pro-Palestinian would mean helping build universities and improving infrastructure while working toward two states. What does this have to do with Assad and backing Iran and Hezbollah, who have done nothing but use Palestinians, usually facilitating arms transfers and encouraging them to fight so they lose chances at statehood

I think we have to analyze, unpack and challenge the theory about the “pro-Palestinian” crowd in the west, many of whom only cheer on Palestinian “resistance” which brings disasters. They never cheer on Palestinians who build a university or build something. But if they fight and a building is destroyed in the battle then some westerners living comfortable lives will cheer

The real story is that some of those pro-Palestinian activists in the west are mostly using them in a proxy war against Israel. But it’s not about Palestinians. If you say “there will be a Palestinian state tomorrow and peace” that’s not the goal.

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Seth Frantzman

@sfrantzman

Dec 17

Some people see Oct 7 as primarily linked to the Iran-backed axis. However, in my view it’s much more closely linked to the long-term goal of Ankara and Doha. Both host Hamas and backed Oct 7. Both are western allies which gives Hamas much more clout than Hezbollah or the Assad regime had

Iran’s goal in backing Hamas was to exploit the Israel-Palestinian conflict to have a “foot” within what it believed was a popular Arab and “Sunni” cause. It already had PIJ as a proxy, it wanted to grow outside this narrow niche. To do that it promised to knit Hamas into its network of proxies

The Houthis joined this because it was convenient for them and Hezbollah and the Iraqi militias did the same, against their own best interests probably. But for Ankara and Doha October 7 is THE cause. It’s not just an exploitation, it’s the main goal

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