Since this is apparently the "day of a thousand hot takes" (most of which will be wrong), I'll interrupt my Twitter hiatus to highlight some things that this teachable moment should drive home. Because what's happening now reinforces several points often lost re #COVID19: 1/10
First are the timelines: INCUBATION period of up to 14 days means all the "X is negative today" stories are dumb, as X could still be incubating the virus. INFECTIVITY is likely highest prior to symptom onset, and infected persons can transmit for 2-3 days before sxs and... 2/10
...for several days after sx onset (infectivity dropping rapidly after ~days 5-7). Thus anyone can start shedding at any time (even between tests for those tested daily), so repeated daily testing does NOT reduce importance of distancing and mask use. This gets at the...3/10
..mildly ridiculous debate about "testing our way out". Repeated regular testing can help (provided contact tracing in place & ability to adhere to isolation/quarantine) but it is not a miracle solution and in this situation may have had opposite effect--false reassurance &..4/10
Now for the COVID-19 illness timeline: We all hope everyone infected recovers quickly, but current stories about how X has "mild symptoms only" during early stage of infection do not tell us much about what may lie ahead. 6/10
..those needing hospital care for COVID-19 (fortunately a minority, even in older age groups) don't typically worsen until a week or more after symptom onset. That's when "inflammatory" or "cytokine storm" phase of illness starts, if it occurs, hypoxia being early harbinger..7/10
...those at highest level of government will obviously get close monitoring and likely also early treatment with antiviral and immunotherapy (e.g. remdesivir, monoclonal Ab, steroids), so have reduced likelihood of adverse outcomes. 8/10
Next: a false dichotomy b/w "opening up" and "controlling the virus". Sure, you can ignore this virus if you'd like--meanwhile it will do what viruses do, and in the process fill hospitals, disrupt the economy anyway, & also find you if you ignore basic prevention measures 9/10
We can have an economy while also controlling COVID-19, but that takes leadership and a massive and well-coordinated response. That's what's been lacking in the US and explains our historic failure--perhaps this sequence of events can begin to change that. End on that hope 10/10
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This tweet is misleading. The study cited is a pre-print that reports Ct values and ability to culture virus from 21 subjects. In only 3 were they able to culture virus beyond day 6, and they were unable to culture virus from any of the 6 asymptomatic subjects after day 5...
...and as I've pointed out before, there is no lab test for "infectiousness", and ability to culture a virus from a sample does not equal infectiousness (reverse also may be true!). Best data to base public health decisions on would be good contract tracing data...
...from omicron wave, assessing SAR by date from sx onset. Whatever you think about length of isolation, and whether a test should be included, I don't think this work adds much. If anything it supports 5 d from test for asymptomatic (small N)! Study here: niid.go.jp/niid/en/2019-n…
Ugh. I hoped to stay out of this spat for a while, but I'm being attacked by @jljcolorado for a short video I made a few weeks ago. It was designed for our HCWs, and deliberately used the terms HCWs are familiar with when describing transmission: Droplet and Airborne. 1/8
Those are the categories we've used. They are overly simplistic, and I completely agree that this is a continuum, as I describe here: haicontroversies.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-tire…
But "aerosol" doesn't currently have a direct link in HCW minds to prevention approach, unlike Droplet and Airborne. 2/8
So in the video, when I refer to "tiny droplets" that "linger in the air", I'm of course referring to aerosols. And attempting to introduce a bit of nuance in order to thread a needle for our HCWs, to convince them transmission in indoor settings can be over longer distances, 3/8
So I wrote a blogpost yesterday to outline how I think about the airborne/droplet debate, after reading the NYT piece about a letter that is now out in CID: academic.oup.com/cid/article/do…
And the letter is of course much more measured, less controversial than the media coverage...1/4
(which focuses on the larger debate that's making many of us weary at this point, for reasons I stated in the post). The article makes 3 recommendations that don't seem controversial to me: (1) improve ventilation in public buildings, workplaces, schools, long term care..2/4
(2) use other measures such as local exhaust, HEPA filters and UV light to supplement general ventilation, and (3) avoid overcrowding.
I think everyone is already on board with #1 & #3. #2 is more resource intensive and probably will generate more debate. They wisely avoid...3/4
Sigh. Was doing ID consults all weekend, off Twitter. Think I will stay off for a while. Didn’t like Idiocracy the movie, and this prequel is excruciating because it’s real. Our non-warrior leaders can go self-isolate while planning the Great Reopening...
...the rest of us will keep battening the hatches and be sure there’s enough ICU beds on short notice for all those who don’t have the luxury of self isolating, and here I’m about to lose my cool so I’m out...will focus on what’s in front of me.
And to be clear (he says on the way out the door), I’m not opposed to contact tracing. I’m opposed to cynical political leaders who have access to the testing and resources required for contact tracing making decisions to open up states where that capacity does not exist...
I've been presenting these contact investigation studies (repeatedly) to try to place into context the recurring drumbeats (Goldberg Drumbeats?) about airborne transmission on one hand, and about prolonged infectious periods on the other. Both concerns get raised in... (1/4)
..response to studies that detect SARS-CoV-2 using molecular methods, either in the air from patient environment (or experimental conditions), or from patient samples for weeks after infection. But we now have data from literally thousands of close contacts of COVID-19...(2/4)
...patients that can inform these questions. Answer always the same: most transmission requires prolonged close contact, attack rates highest in household contacts, much lower for healthcare contacts, and transmission occurs within 5 days of symptom onset...(3/4)
Important thread on testing. Related note, I'm surprised that anyone assumes the US has strong public health surge capacity. US healthcare system is teetering and dysfunctional, providing inferior results for far greater GDP investment than any other industrialized nation...1/6
...and healthcare system is the foundation of public health response to emerging pathogens. Every entry point is part of detection/response. CDC and state PH depts are filled with smart, dedicated, hardworking people, but budgets are tiny, CDC budget 1/100 of military budget. 2/6
e.g. I was asked to co-lead a lab working group for CORHA (corha.org), a joint effort by CDC, ASTHO, CSTE, NACCHO, APIC, SHEA, AHPL, CMS, FDA to "improve detection, investigation, prevention and control of outbreaks across the healthcare continuum"...3/6