Most comics movies are based on multiple storylines, in some case it's one story with some mixed in but when talking about the movie Civil War I feel people forget to mention it's DNA also come from another Avengers storyline. One of the best, UNDER SIEGE!
Under Siege is one of the Gold Standard of the Avengers a tense story where the avengers are at there weakest while fighting against their evil opposites the Masters of Evil
This is also the story that Put Zemo as a mover and Shaker at Marvel. See for a long time he was kind of a joke but this set up his new more tactile incarnation who would do everything he could do to destroy Steve.
The story is tense with the Avengers breaking in to reclaim there home and free their trapped teammates. With many of the big guns taken out by various c-lister villains, proving how deadly they are.
This book also does a good job taking the heroes out, it never feels cheap, even Hercules is taken out after overwhelming odds, this story uses that nice old contrast of the real and fantastic to such great effect.
One of the things I like about this story? It's how much Cap is trying to hold onto his personal history it's sometimes easy to forget that Cap is from the 40 and even by the 80's did not have much left over of his old life seeing Zemo destroy his links is such a cold move.
The story is intense and personal, a tragedy at it's heart of a man wanting vengeance against a hero who is trying his best. This scene right here is so powerful
The story ends and Steve lost so much, while it might be junk it's a history he missed out on. The man out of time mourns for the only things left that showed his history. His partners. This is also why I'm highlighting this.
See one of the big talks is people focus on Civil War and only look to the crossover, while it's important to the movie it's honestly hard not to look at it's core and realize that it had a lot of this story in it as well for one, Zemo.
Zemo was very much not a factor in the original Civil war but in Civil War he is and this story takes some of the basics,
-using Cap's Personal history against him
-driving the avengers to the limits
-hurting the Avengers personal loved ones
It's all here in this story.
But besides that this story would go on to have major consequences going forward, for one, one of the greatest comics of the 90's!
*but the 90's su...
SHUT UP!
The 90's had plenty of amazing comics and Thunderbolts is one of the best Marvel titles.
Zemo's story is one of the most compelling at Marvel, a man who believes in the noble ideas of his family coming face to face with the horror of them and his own sins. If you want to know how to get into this character his Story in it's in TB and the Zemo mini.
One day when I have the time we might dig into Zemo more, there is a reason why he's considered one of the best Captain American rogues, even if Marvel thinks no one can take him seriously. But his actions became the basis for what many people consider one of the best MCU films.

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