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Oct 27, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Just a reminder as we head toward tomorrow's advance trade data (for September) and the more detailed release next week:

US exports to China of goods covered by the deal normally pick up in the last third of the year.

That is as predictable as the timing of the harvest ...

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Everything has kind of been mucked up for the last two years, though, as China (famously) didn't buy any beans in 2018 (showing the power of the state importing companies).

This year though should be ... more or less normal

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As Chad Bown's detailed numbers* show, ag exports (the sept data for China now comes out early) will be back in line with their 2017 levels (helped by pork) -- but no where close to the big gains promised

*I am shocked @ChadBown included lobsters. Shocked

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But with manufacturing weak*, total U.S. exports are still unlikely to reach 2017 levels, let alone far exceed them.

* There is no advance data for aircraft, and I think the "deal" cheated a bit by allowing orders to count toward the total.

piie.com/blogs/trade-an…

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For fun, I plotted covered exports (so no aircraft) to China as a share of US GDP over the last 10ys. To me the big story is still how undynamic they have been both before and after the "deal"

(they were about 0.4% of US GDP back in 17 ...)

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To paraphrase a bit, China's rapid growth shows up everywhere except in its import data

(especially of manufactures)

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The most dynamic large manufacturing export to China is semiconductor manufacturing equipment, and that one is complicated, as, well China's imports here are a function of an industrial policy designed to reduce China's imports of chips*

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*/ there may be a pull forward effect from the threat of export controls as well

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Jun 28
Excellent essay. No doubt one of the defining features of the China shock has been how it has reallocated the global surplus.

The old exportweltmeister has been dethroned -- and China has world scale in advanced manufacturing, which is new and disruptive

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The jump in China's surplus since the start of 2024 is actually understated in dollar terms -- as Chinese export prices have fallen/ volume metrics show a bigger rise. But there has been a huge shift since 2018

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I do think I was among the first to talk of a second China shock -- I was among the first to notice the acceleration in China's auto exports, and I also observed that the rise in China's surplus in manufacturing after 19 was as big as the rise after WTO accession

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Jun 26
I gather that in the eyes of some of the leader writers at the Economist the collapse of German exports to China (down a pp of German GDP led by autos) doesn't have anything to do with today's announced layoffs at VW ...

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It is quite clear in the data that Europe's auto exports to China tanked over the course of 2024 and 2025, and imports from China soared in 25 ...

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and that, combined with competition with China in third party markets across a range of manufactured goods, is an important reason why euro area export growth has stalled

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Jun 25
Ut oh. The Economist is at risk of making the mistake the IMF made in the 2025 External Sector Report and not looking through the headline current account numbers ...

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The Economist leader makes the mistakes I argued that the IMF makes -- thinking that the full current account presents a better picture than customs goods (when in fact the services numbers and income numbers are distorted heavily by Ireland on the European side)

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And the income numbers are distorted by China's wrong way investment income deficit -- which has a big impact on the comparison with Germany (which has the expected investment income surplus)

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Jun 21
I see that the pre global financial crisis Chinese fears about "Plaza" (meaning a negotiations that results in a coordinated currency appreciation to reduce imbalances and trade tensions) hasn't disappeared ...

Fair enough -- call a deal Shanghai accord ...

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The name doesn't really matter. And if China doesn't see value in an agreement that tries to raise the value of all the big Asian currencies together and wants to get points at home for rejecting a "plaza" and instead chooses to appreciate I certainly won't complain

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The notion that China cannot accept any appreciation is absurd. From the end of 2006 to the end of 2011 China's currency appreciated by ~ 20% v the dollar even with a two year pause during the global financial crisis.

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Jun 16
As @Aligarciaherrer has already observed, May's data shows ongoing domestic weakness (even increasing domestic weakness) even as China's exports continue to outperform global trade. It is an explosive combination.

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The retail sales numbers speak for themselves -- tho there is a goods v services distinction, and the rolloff of some of last year's incentives for durables purchases matters.

The investment numbers also aren't good

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China's property market slump is now 5 years old and there is no sign that it has bottomed ... which it in and of itself remarkable. clearly time to clean up and recap the property developers, painful as that will be. on this I fully agree with the IMF

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Jun 8
Korea's won is incredibly weak (global financial crisis or Korean BoP crisis levels ... ) even though Korea's fundamentals are sound (BoP has a massive surplus, fiscal debt is modest, etc).

Will be interesting to see if the Koreans can mount a defense this week ...

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A bit of background: Korea is experiencing a massive, positive terms of trade shock (chip prices are up so much that it has overwhelmed the rise in price of oil) and Samsung and Hynix are generating massive profits that have pushed the KOPSI way up

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Korea's fiscal position is solid too - not much government debt (thanks to a still stingy system of retirement benefits) and there will be a massive tax windfall from Samsung and Hynix. KRW weakness is all flow driven

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