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Oct 27, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Just a reminder as we head toward tomorrow's advance trade data (for September) and the more detailed release next week:

US exports to China of goods covered by the deal normally pick up in the last third of the year.

That is as predictable as the timing of the harvest ...

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Everything has kind of been mucked up for the last two years, though, as China (famously) didn't buy any beans in 2018 (showing the power of the state importing companies).

This year though should be ... more or less normal

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As Chad Bown's detailed numbers* show, ag exports (the sept data for China now comes out early) will be back in line with their 2017 levels (helped by pork) -- but no where close to the big gains promised

*I am shocked @ChadBown included lobsters. Shocked

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But with manufacturing weak*, total U.S. exports are still unlikely to reach 2017 levels, let alone far exceed them.

* There is no advance data for aircraft, and I think the "deal" cheated a bit by allowing orders to count toward the total.

piie.com/blogs/trade-an…

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For fun, I plotted covered exports (so no aircraft) to China as a share of US GDP over the last 10ys. To me the big story is still how undynamic they have been both before and after the "deal"

(they were about 0.4% of US GDP back in 17 ...)

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To paraphrase a bit, China's rapid growth shows up everywhere except in its import data

(especially of manufactures)

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The most dynamic large manufacturing export to China is semiconductor manufacturing equipment, and that one is complicated, as, well China's imports here are a function of an industrial policy designed to reduce China's imports of chips*

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*/ there may be a pull forward effect from the threat of export controls as well

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Jul 11
You can sort of see why folks talk about a China shock -

Very clear swing in Europe's trade balance in autos, engines and batteries with China

The first inflection point isn't the pandemic but rather the summer of 21, the second is in 2024 ...

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The swing in bilateral trade in autos, engines and batteries is almost 0.4 pp of EU GDP on its own

Gavekal argues that Europe's trade has held up well if China is excluded. That's one big exclusion!

The auto, engines and batteries balance ex China has also turned down

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The euro value of EU auto exports globally has also been held up by the increase in auto prices (proxied by the rise in export proceeds per kilo of vehicle exports here)

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Jul 8
Chinese domestic auto sales remained weak in June. EV sales are now right at 12m cars (over the last 12ms). ICE sales have dipped below 10m

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22m in domestic sales and ~ 55m in capacity.

Michael Dunne

"this year China has capacity to build about 55 million cars. Their domestic demand is 25 million. They’ll export another 10 million that leaves 15 to 20 million in excess capacity idle"

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latitudemedia.com/news/catalyst-…
On the ICE side China once had the capacity to make 35-40m cars -- some of that has been repurposed to make EVs or shut ...

production is now 15m, with ~ 5m in exports (more than Germany!)

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Jul 8
Sometimes you just have to admire how strange the world can be -- Korea's May current account surplus was over $38 billion or $450 billion annualized

Absolutely massive number, the trailing 12m sum hasn't yet caught up

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What's more, the massive surplus was offset by massive equity outflows. Primarily foreigners selling Korean equities (presumably to avoid concentration limits ...)

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I never expected this kind of surplus (Korea and Taiwan are on a trajectory where they could post a surplus the size of China's reported surplus, i.e ~ $700b, this year) could be balanced by equally large net equity flows --

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Jul 7
Happy to review the evidence that some of China's exchange rate management results in change to the balance sheet of the state financial sector -- not just changes to the PBOC's formal reserves.

I also have covered this extensively on my blog

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The most important evidence is that fx settlement -- which historically has been an intervention variable (and purchases and sales still correlate with how spot trades inside the band) is no longer showing up on the PBOC's balance sheet (Black and red lines have diverged)

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We can debate where that FX is being warehoused - the PBOC doesn't tell us. But in the past it has been moved to both the SCBs and the policy banks. Swaps moved lots of fx over to the state commercial banks before the GFC, and entrusted loans ($95b of which were converted to equity) funded the policy banks

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Jul 6
Very much agree with @adam_tooze --

The most important thing to know about the international financial system right now is that the dollar's share of a global equity market index is higher than the dollar's share of official fx reserves

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One manifestation of the "profit dollar" and a global financial system built around the hope that US will deliver exceptional returns (not safety or necessarily liquidity): an unusual share of the US external deficit has been funded by return seeking flows

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state asset accumulation hasn't disappeared -- I estimate $600b in flows from reserve managers/ Chinese state banks and global SWFs into dollar assets.

But most of the flow is into institutions that seek return not just safety and liquidity

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Jul 4
A good point from the Economist

"This economic logic is flawed—China is suffering a property bust similar to Japan’s all on its own, without Plaza-like constraints"

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Despite the protests from the Global Times and its echo chamber on this and other sites, I am a bit more optimistic about the possibility that China may agree to allow the CNY to appreciate than the Economist

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China won't agree to a "Plaza" deal (any deal will certainly have a different name) but it has allowed its currency to appreciate in the past. The CNY depreciation from 01 to 06 was a big reason for the first China shock & its 07 to 13 appreciation a big part of the solution

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