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Oct 27, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Just a reminder as we head toward tomorrow's advance trade data (for September) and the more detailed release next week:

US exports to China of goods covered by the deal normally pick up in the last third of the year.

That is as predictable as the timing of the harvest ...

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Everything has kind of been mucked up for the last two years, though, as China (famously) didn't buy any beans in 2018 (showing the power of the state importing companies).

This year though should be ... more or less normal

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As Chad Bown's detailed numbers* show, ag exports (the sept data for China now comes out early) will be back in line with their 2017 levels (helped by pork) -- but no where close to the big gains promised

*I am shocked @ChadBown included lobsters. Shocked

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But with manufacturing weak*, total U.S. exports are still unlikely to reach 2017 levels, let alone far exceed them.

* There is no advance data for aircraft, and I think the "deal" cheated a bit by allowing orders to count toward the total.

piie.com/blogs/trade-an…

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For fun, I plotted covered exports (so no aircraft) to China as a share of US GDP over the last 10ys. To me the big story is still how undynamic they have been both before and after the "deal"

(they were about 0.4% of US GDP back in 17 ...)

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To paraphrase a bit, China's rapid growth shows up everywhere except in its import data

(especially of manufactures)

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The most dynamic large manufacturing export to China is semiconductor manufacturing equipment, and that one is complicated, as, well China's imports here are a function of an industrial policy designed to reduce China's imports of chips*

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*/ there may be a pull forward effect from the threat of export controls as well

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Nov 12
The old exportweltmeister has been dethroned -- and its economy is suffering at the hand of the new exportweltmeister (China).

That is the story told by both a new ECB paper and the FT in an excellent new piece

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Put simply, Germany is the most exposed large G-7 economy to the second China shock (Japan has been buffered by an incredibly weak yen).

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The impact of the second China shock is in all the relevant data sets -- & it reflects a clear Chinese policy choice: “As a country, the Chinese have been in the last years much better, more proactive, more consistent in going after the big technologies and conquering them”

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Nov 9
Germany needs to fully wake up (it is happening but too slowly)

China's auto export growth did not slow in October.

825K vehicle exports (an annualized pace of close to 10m), likely over 700K passenger car exports (8.5m annualized). Crazy numbers

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Overall export growth slowed in October, but auto exports were surprisingly strong (2024 forecasts that China's export book was set to fizzle out haven't been born out, export growth actually reaccelerated)

The vehicle surplus now exceeds $100b

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The acceleration in exports is clearest in volume terms, but it shows in dollar terms as well -- and imports are being pushed out of the Chinese market (auto imports are now less than 2% of Chinese domestic sales ... )

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Nov 7
The first relatively weak Chinese trade data release in a while -- October is usually down v September, but y/y growth in exports and imports also stalled. If October is a leading indicator for q4, the goods surplus will stabilize at (gulp) around $1.2 trillion

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There is a standard seasonal fall in export in October tied to the mid-autumn festival -- and that dip may be a bit pronounced this October. But y/y volume growth looks close to flat (after a surprisingly strong 11-12% increase in Sept)

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Averaging the monthly data (October is an estimate) would suggest export volumes are growing ~ 5% -- still faster than global trade, but a deceleration from most of 2024 and the first part of 2025

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Nov 2
Somehow, the US has ended up with a tariff structure for many goods that doesn't really encourage a shift in production out of China. Quote is from Sean Stein of the US-China Business Council, in a new piece from @AnaSwanson Image
To be sure, the legacy 25% 301 tariff on lists 1-3 does discourage final assembly of those goods in China -- but the term 2 tariffs haven't added to that penalty ...

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nytimes.com/2025/11/02/bus…
The bulk of current US imports from China have a 301 tariff of either 7.5% (many household/ consumer goods) or zero (electronics) and now face a 20% tariff (10 reciprocal, 10 fentanyl) -- which isn't much different from the 19 or 20% tariff on SE Asia.

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Nov 1
Jason Douglass and Jonathan Cheng in the WSJ -- the Trade War Didn't Change China.

In fact, China's economy is more unbalanced and more reliant on exports for the demand than it was when section 301 case first started

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Open trade failed, spectacularly, to liberalize China's political system.

More restricted trade if anything led China to double down on its manufacturing intensive, channel capital to industry model

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I think it is fair to say that China has weaponized the chokepoints generated by its control over the supply of critical inputs (rare earths, magnets, legacy chips, processing of chips) quite effectively --

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Oct 31
China's goods and services data on a balance of payments basis is now effectively out for q3 (with the September monthly data) -- and on a balance of payments basis, exports jumped up a bit in q3

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The q2 surplus using China's (whacky) BoP methodology was well below the q2 customs surplus -- but the q3 BoP surplus is strong, and up v q2 (while the customs surplus is down)

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So my estimate for the q3 current account surplus is just over $200b ($800b annualized) -- or well above q2 ...

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