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Oct 27, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Just a reminder as we head toward tomorrow's advance trade data (for September) and the more detailed release next week:

US exports to China of goods covered by the deal normally pick up in the last third of the year.

That is as predictable as the timing of the harvest ...

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Everything has kind of been mucked up for the last two years, though, as China (famously) didn't buy any beans in 2018 (showing the power of the state importing companies).

This year though should be ... more or less normal

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As Chad Bown's detailed numbers* show, ag exports (the sept data for China now comes out early) will be back in line with their 2017 levels (helped by pork) -- but no where close to the big gains promised

*I am shocked @ChadBown included lobsters. Shocked

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But with manufacturing weak*, total U.S. exports are still unlikely to reach 2017 levels, let alone far exceed them.

* There is no advance data for aircraft, and I think the "deal" cheated a bit by allowing orders to count toward the total.

piie.com/blogs/trade-an…

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For fun, I plotted covered exports (so no aircraft) to China as a share of US GDP over the last 10ys. To me the big story is still how undynamic they have been both before and after the "deal"

(they were about 0.4% of US GDP back in 17 ...)

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To paraphrase a bit, China's rapid growth shows up everywhere except in its import data

(especially of manufactures)

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The most dynamic large manufacturing export to China is semiconductor manufacturing equipment, and that one is complicated, as, well China's imports here are a function of an industrial policy designed to reduce China's imports of chips*

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*/ there may be a pull forward effect from the threat of export controls as well

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Jan 5
The appreciation of the yuan (against the dollar) in the second half of 2025 -- and particularly in December -- has attracted a bit of attention.

(h/t to @Mike_Weilandt for the chart)

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It isn't like the yuan's appreciation against the dollar has been particularly fast. But it has been steady. And a predictable no volatility appreciation that exceeds the loss from the rate differential is bound to get attention

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It will be interesting to see the numbers for fx settlement in December. The number of reports of activity in the market (dollar buying to limit appreciation) by state banks in say Bloomberg's fx coverage picked up in December.

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Saudi Arabia's q3 current account numbers are out, and they -- unsurprisingly -- showed an ongoing deficit.

My rough estimate for Saudi Arabia's current account break even (the oil price that results in external balance) continues to be over $90 a barrel

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A reminder -- the external break even is calculating using reported oil export revenues, the non-oil current account, and net exports (my numbers there are dependent on getting regular updates from @Rory_Johnston )

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@Rory_Johnston i.e. Saudi Arabia needs $250 billion a year in export receipts from oil to balance its current account -- and that is much more than it gets with oil at ~ $60 a barrel

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There is a lot of talk -- not the least from the US Administration -- about the windfall from Venezuela's oil. It is worth doing a bit of (boring) quantification.

Bottom line: it isn't going to pay for everything ...

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Venezuela's oil is heavy and sour, so it trades at a discount to sweet light.

2024 production was 0.9 mbd. Domestic consumption isn't zero. To generous, assume 0.75 mbd at day at $50 a barrel -- that generates $14 billion a year in exports.

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Interesting comments from South Korea's Rhee (central bank governor). Seems like there is a level of the won that is too weak even for Korea ...

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Rhee also emphasized the foreign exchange implications of Korea's investment pledge (part of its "deal" with Lutnick and Trump). Rhee "vowed to oppose any US investment decisions that could threaten the stability of the foreign-exchange market"

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I share Governor Rhee's misgivings -- explicitly relying on Korea (and Japan and perhaps Taiwan) to finance investment in the US -- if it actually happens (incentives aren't well aligned) likely implies accepting continued trade imbalances ...

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Jan 2
Second Peter's comment. Xi is not for turning. The question is how China's trading partners -- not just the US -- react. Suspect France and Germany will set the direction of policy in 2026 ...

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China's top leadership seems convinced that there is a "fortress" in one country global equilibrium -- where China exports (and controls key supply chains) but doesn't import (at least not much beyond oil and iron)

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But I am a bit skeptical that a China that doesn't import yet continues to export is a sustainable equilibrium, politically or economically.

Note that a constant 1 to 1.5 pp net export contribution implies an ever widening trade surplus



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Jan 1
Let me draw out one point in China's q3 balance of payments (a rather subtle one) -- namely the large sales of Chinese bonds by foreign investors in q3.

(the red bar in the graph)

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This is a reversal of inflows from back in 2023 ... and as my earlier thread notes, I think the change in direction factors into the reported current account surplus (even though it should not technically) given China's error minimization formula post 2022 ...

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And why was there a change in direction in these flows? The answer in part is tied to the pressure on the CNY-USD swap market -- and thus to backdoor state bank currency management ... see this September Bloomberg story

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