Brad Setser Profile picture
Oct 27, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Just a reminder as we head toward tomorrow's advance trade data (for September) and the more detailed release next week:

US exports to China of goods covered by the deal normally pick up in the last third of the year.

That is as predictable as the timing of the harvest ...

1/x Image
Everything has kind of been mucked up for the last two years, though, as China (famously) didn't buy any beans in 2018 (showing the power of the state importing companies).

This year though should be ... more or less normal

2/x Image
As Chad Bown's detailed numbers* show, ag exports (the sept data for China now comes out early) will be back in line with their 2017 levels (helped by pork) -- but no where close to the big gains promised

*I am shocked @ChadBown included lobsters. Shocked

3/x Image
But with manufacturing weak*, total U.S. exports are still unlikely to reach 2017 levels, let alone far exceed them.

* There is no advance data for aircraft, and I think the "deal" cheated a bit by allowing orders to count toward the total.

piie.com/blogs/trade-an…

4/x Image
For fun, I plotted covered exports (so no aircraft) to China as a share of US GDP over the last 10ys. To me the big story is still how undynamic they have been both before and after the "deal"

(they were about 0.4% of US GDP back in 17 ...)

5/x Image
To paraphrase a bit, China's rapid growth shows up everywhere except in its import data

(especially of manufactures)

6/x
The most dynamic large manufacturing export to China is semiconductor manufacturing equipment, and that one is complicated, as, well China's imports here are a function of an industrial policy designed to reduce China's imports of chips*

7/x Image
*/ there may be a pull forward effect from the threat of export controls as well

8/8

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Brad Setser

Brad Setser Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @Brad_Setser

Jan 20
China's premier says China wants to be a market for the world, not just a source of supply.

He might want to get get started.

China exported over 7m passenger cars in 2025, and the pace of growth accelerated at the end of the year

1/ many Image
Passenger car imports are down to half a million, and falling fast ... no market for the world there

2/ Image
As an aside the pace of China's (N)EV exports doubled over the course of 2025 -- huge, huge growth ... China is still a source of global supply there, not a source of global demand

3/ Image
Read 9 tweets
Jan 20
The technicals around the long-end of the Japanese curve are difficult: the natural buyers are all underwater on their legacy holdings, making it a hedge fund playground.

I tho would love to hear a good explanation of the fiscal concerns, gross debt isn't the only metric

1/ Image
Maybe the IMF's data is off, but it has the general government deficit in 2025 at under 2 pp pf GDP (way better than the US) and it likely would be ~ 2% of GDP even with Takaichi's 0.7 pp of GDP(?) stimulus

2/ Image
Net debt is much more clearly on a downward trajectory than the US -- and the net interest bill is very modest comparatively (even with high gross debt); it will get worse JGBs are refinanced but there is room to give a bit ...

3/ Image
Read 8 tweets
Jan 20
Gonna push back against my friends* at FT alphaville just a bit.

The countries that have backed the Danes most strongly (and the Danes themselves) are the surplus countries of Europe & they have generally have a ton of public sector financial assets

1/

ft.com/content/beeaf8…
The Dutch are a good example; massive public sector pension funds. Sweden isn't that different. Denmark has big public investors (Norway is all Norges Bank obvly)

2/
With Germany you need to be a bit more creative -- but the Sparkassen have way more deposits than loans, and put a lot of money into bonds ... ask Christian Kopf

Allianz is ultimately a regulated German insurer, subject to public pressure
Read 10 tweets
Jan 19
The fall in China's real estate investment -- which can still be mapped to objective indicators -- if anything accelerated toward the end of 2025 ...

1/many Image
. @KeithBradsher covered this well is the Times' story on China's 5% (shock, shock) reported growth in 2025 ... which understandably (being non-news) got overshadowed by the real news over Trump's Greenland/ peace prize obsession

2/

nytimes.com/2026/01/18/bus…Image
@KeithBradsher All of the key line items in China's fixed asset investment series are now falling on a y/y basis (the trailing 12m sum is a lagged indicator), with an inflection point around June

3/ Image
Read 9 tweets
Jan 19
The IMF, and others (the French?), should start tracking the customs based global goods imbalance.

Tis striking. China stands out. Followed by Korea and Taiwan (the NIEs). And Ireland of course (pharma)

1/ many Image
In a sane world of course the US should care about this -- but Trump is already taking credit for the (irrelevant) fall in the bilateral deficit with China, and seems poised to focus his trade policy (ha!) on the non-Ireland EU and Canada ...

2/ Image
It genuinely is striking how concentrated the global surplus in Asia.

Should get the IMF worked up, if it can cast aside the legacy of their horrible 2024 forecast that imbalances would recede and their poor pro imbalances 24 policy advice in Asia

3/ Image
Read 9 tweets
Jan 19
A reminder for armchair geostrategists trying to game out a trade war -- a massive fraction of EU exports to the US are in the pharmaceutical sector. That is mostly US firms producing for the US in Ireland for tax reasons ...

1/ Image
About half the US trade deficit with Europe/ the European surplus with the US (~ $100b) is trade in tax (i.e. pharmaceutical trade). Ex Pharma, the EU now exports ~ $400b to the US and imports ~ $300b. Big numbers, no doubt, but materially less than if pharma is included

2/ Image
With apologies, this chart shows EUR billion, so ex pharma, the EU exports ~ 400b EUR and imports ~ EUR 300b

3/ Image
Read 9 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(