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Nov 16, 2020 13 tweets 3 min read Read on X
VACCINES can work!

Another #COVID19 phase 3 vaccine trial reports awesome results. This time, an estimated 94% efficacy

95 COVID19 detected: only 5! in the vaccine group and 90 in the placebo

But like Pfizer results - need to take w caution... WHY?

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investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/…
First, the amazing efficacy from phase 3 at this point for both @moderna_tx and @pfizer vaccines - both mRNA vaccines - is EXCEEDINGLY ENCOURAGING.

These results show that these vaccines are eliciting the correct antibody bases responses to stop symptomatic infection!

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What I am worried about is the time scale of the trials thus far:

The leading vaccines are presenting the spike protein to the human immune system. This makes sense! Immunize against spike and stop virus entry into the cells.

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But that these vaccines are designed specifically around antibody based responses suggest these early phase 3 endpoints - which are detected within a couple of months of getting the vaccine - may be enjoying a major but temporary boost from the early vaccine effects

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When you get an infection or a vaccine, the body makes a HUGE number of temporary antibody secreting cells called plasmablasts.

These are evolutionarily “designed” to infuse a huge and robust antibody response capable of clearing an active infection

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But over the month or so after the infection or vaccine, the plasmablasts have to die off - it is their fate. Over the coming weeks and months so too do the antibodies they produced.

What remains after is usually a much smaller antibody producing cellular subset

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So I am a bit hesitant to jump on board with the >90% efficacy results because the time scale of the phase 3 studies thus far match the time scale of the temporary plasmablast duration and the antibodies they produced...

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So, w these early efficacy results, we may be measuring the effects of an impressive front line army that spins up in response to the vaccine - but then we should be careful not to assume the same efficacy persists to hold that line after most of the troops disappear!

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That all said - what these two vaccines show is they hit the nail on the head to find the right protein to immunize against!

Only time and careful follow up will tell how much the >90% efficacy of the two vaccines holds after the early vaccine responses fade away.

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This is btw generally why we must monitor durability of vaccine responses over time. And why we have to always be careful to interpret efficacy within the parameters of the data we have (here - early months post vaccine)

Also - we don’t know about transmission blocking...

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To learn about the actual benefits long term of the vaccine reaponse - it will take continued post market analysis. The controls will likely get the vaccine - so a new type of vaccine study that is not as well controlled will ensue to measure longer term effects.

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Also - I’m not speaking in black and white terms here. Either way, immunity will likely persist. It’s not binary. B and T cells are produced

At population level, we must wait to see if 94% efficacy to fully block symptomatic disease becomes 90% or if it becomes 50%, or 30%

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And even if it becomes 50% to stop total symptomatic disease, it could remain 90% to stop severe disease. This, like testing and everything else is simply NOT a binary issue and also is NOT a simple issue meant for describing over Twitter....

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Such a bad interpretation that stands to harm patient care

Let's not throw the baby out w the bathwater for COVID-19 (and flu etc)!

Suggesting to only run PCR & not rapid means most (50%-80%) of patients get WORSE care & at higher costs

Here's why:

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When I see publications & docs say “don’t use a rapid test, only use a PCR”

it assumes this is an OR only situation

Ridiculous!

A rapid test is… RAPID… and highly affordable

You lose ~nothing by it and give your patient the opportunity to GAIN tremendously

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If the test is positive, then for that 80%+ of culture positive ppl … your job is done immediately

You’ve spent $5 and 5 minutes and they can get on treatment right away

If you didn’t do it, it will be be 1-2 days and ~$150 before they can get started on treatment

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Here we go again with this asinine cautious approach to testing for H5N1

CDC is NOT recommending that people with no symptoms - but who have had contact w infected animals - be tested at all… and certainly are not recommending a swab w any frequency.

Though we should have learned it in 2020, Here’s why this doesnt make sense:

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Firstly, tests are our eyes for viruses. It’s literally how we see where viruses are

If we wait until people are getting sick, we may have missed a major opportunity to find viruses jumping into humans before they learn to become so efficient in us that they cause disease

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So waiting until we actually have highly pathogenic strains harming humans - when we have a pretty discreet population at the moment to survey - is short sighted

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Jan 16
A lot of questions still on:

How long should I isolate?

Do I need to isolate?

When can I go back to work?

Is 5 days enough?

What if I’m still positive?

Why am I not positive when I first get symptoms?

This thread below (and the embedded thread) goes through many of these questions
Now that symptoms start earlier w COVID (bc immunity activates symptoms fast after exposure)

A frequent ? that comes up is what this means for Paxlovid

Often ppl think it means you have to start Paxlovid earlier

Nope - Opposite! You have more time

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Bc symptoms start faster but the growth of the virus still takes about the same time as it used to…

Symptom onset today is ~2d post exposure where before it was ~5d

So, as far as virus growth is concerned, day 5 post symptoms (when the trials took place) is day ~8 today

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Jan 8
A heartbreaking consequence of lapses in vaccination!

A measles outbreak is spreadinf in Philadelphia.

MEASLES! It sends kids to the hospital, erases existing immune memory (creating long term risks) and kills 1 in 1000

It was eliminated in the US, but we seem hell bent on reversing that

inquirer.com/health/measles…
A particularly deadly consequence of measles is its erasure of previously acquired immune memory - setting kids and adults up for infections that they shouldn’t be at risk from!

We found for example that measles can eliminate as much as 80% of someone’s previously acquired immunity to other pathogens!
science.org/doi/full/10.11…
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Jan 3
This paper from Kaiser on new XBB1.5 vax formulation is misleading

NO, it does NOT say that prior vaccination w non updated XBB1.5 vaccines offer no protection

No, it doesn’t even say the XBB1.5 updates to the vaccine formulation are important

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medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
Here are the key conclusions.
They are WAY misleading

The major issue is w the timing

The comparison is

A) a VERY recent XBB1.5 vaccine given in last 30 days,

Vs…

B) A vaccine received ~1 year or more ago!

Any effect is first and foremost owing to recency of vax

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Given everything we know about major short term (weeks - few months) immune responses after vax or infections

The comparison is NOT able to say anything about the importance of updating the vaccine formulation for variants

It simply says what any Immunology 101
Text says..

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Tip on pooling home tests

I’m gathering w family. Had one @Pfizer Lucira multiplex COVID-Flu home molecular test

Had 6 people and 6 swabs

Everyone used one swab. Dunked all 6 into one Pfizer Lucira test

Neg.

Tested everyone for price of one!

Pooling at home works!
Pooling can work w home tests including rapid antigen and rapid molecular tests

However for antigen id be a bit more cautious and not put more than 3 swabs in the buffer

With molecular, particularly Pfizer Lucira bc it has a large volume buffer, 6 is no problem.
Here’s a nasal swab that would work. Don’t use it as a nasopharyngeal swab at home - just use it like any home self swab and swab the anterior nares

a.co/d/iCO1nsI
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