1) Here's a question for legal experts about Trump's ongoing efforts to steal the election.
This @SangerNYT piece gets at a key point. Trump would need *multiple* GOP state legislatures to all appoint electors in defiance of their state's popular vote:
@SangerNYT 2) If Trump got MI and PA to do this (which he won't), it wouldn't necessarily help him. In those states, governors (both Dems) appoint the electors.
If so, you'd have competing slates sent to Congress. As I wrote the other day, that doesn't help Trump:
@SangerNYT 3) So @SangerNYT says Trump's only way forward it to get GA and AZ to do it (both have GOP governors). But even then he'd still need at least 1 more from a state with a Dem governor.
He needs at least 3 states to do this to get Biden's total below 270:
@SangerNYT 4) But here another complication arises. If Congress deadlocks over which slate to accept (the fake legislature one or the real one from the Dem governor), what happens then?
If a state's electors are simply not counted at all, does the threshold for a majority of electors drop?
@SangerNYT 5) @tribelaw and @dorfonlaw think it does. In this scenario,. all Trump would be doing is simply eliminating electors from getting counted, not adding to his own totals. Biden still wins, because he still ends up with a majority of *remaining* electors:
@SangerNYT@tribelaw@dorfonlaw 6) But as best as I can determine, this question still hasn't been definitively resolved. If somehow Trump did this and got Biden below 270, the theory that makes the steal possible is that this kicks it to the House in another way, one resolved by balance of state delegations.
@SangerNYT@tribelaw@dorfonlaw 7) A quick correction to the above: As several have pointed out, the governor *certifies* the electors, which isn't the same as *appointing* them. But the meaning is the same: The governor certifies the electors in accordance with the popular vote, and those get sent to Congress.
@SangerNYT@tribelaw@dorfonlaw 8) Regardless, the point that legal experts can help us with is: If Trump somehow did this and a given state's electors don't end up getting counted at all, how does the winner get determined? Is it a majority of the lower-than-270 threshold, or is the threshold still 270? FIN
@SangerNYT@tribelaw@dorfonlaw CODA: But let's not lose sight of just how insanely corrupt it would be for even one legislature to do this, and how unforgivable it is that Trump is demanding it *and* that many Republicans would be totally fine with him stealing the election this way:
"If the outcome hinged on a single tipping-point state, split by a few hundred or a few thousand votes, what’s currently playing out as reckless nonsense would instead be playing out as a successful coup."
Now that Trump is actively trying to put in motion his scheme to get GOP legislatures to help steal the election, I'm reupping this piece explaining how this whole process works and just how insanely corrupt and autocratic such an effort would have to be:
As I note in my piece, the GOP-controlled state legislature in Pennsylvania has no current role in appointing electors. None. By state law, the governor (a Democrat) appoints them.
And GOP officials in Michigan have also explicitly clarified that they also don't have a current role in appointing electors, as @tripgabriel and @stefsaul reported:
It's surprising that anyone could look at the campaign Biden just ran and miss the degree to which it actually did internalize and act on the need to disarm Trump's version of economic populism. 1/
Biden managed the debates over China, trade, and international supply lines, by seizing on the openings provided by Trump's epic failures on all those fronts. The Covid debate, in a surprise that still hasn't been fully appreciated, created those openings. 2/
Biden also was able to manage both immigration and the racial protests without any retreat -- in fact, with the opposite of a retreat -- in a way that didn't end up causing destructive losses of white voters. If anything, they may have even helped with educated whites. 3/
We're at the point where GOP elites are perfectly comfortable treating the refusal to concede in a legitimate election as just another tool for motivating partisans and for casting a cloud of illegitimacy over the rightful victor.
Trump is raging at Republicans because they aren't doing *enough* to sustain the illusion that the election is being stolen from him, CNN reports. Which highlights a big problem for Republicans: Admitting Trump lost cannot be deferred forever. New piece: washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/…
Trump and Republicans have a Faustian bargain going:
* Republicans pretend the election's outcome is still in doubt
* Trump keeps his voters energized for Georgia runoffs
But Trump is growing angry, saying they're not keeping up their end of the deal:
When Trump loses these lawsuits, and the illusion that the election was stolen from him is impossible to sustain, Trump will grow more unhinged, and demand that Republicans fight harder to save him.
Fox News propagandists are now relentlessly pushing the idea that the election is being stolen from Trump, to provide cover for invalidating countless lawful ballots. What's funny is those Fox personalities helped lure him down the path to his likely loss: washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/…
Fox personalities helped construct the bubble of unreality that defined Trump's record and case for reelection.
So it's a fitting end that they're engaged in a frantic effort to prevent voters from rendering their verdict on what they themselves wrought.
An overlooked Biden achievement: He embraced racial justice protests and offered a robust agenda to combat systemic racism while *also* expanding Dem support among working class whites.
Destroys the idea that retreat on racial issues was needed for that: