Thread by @Shoq

What annoys me about socialists is they never don't seem to know what producing goods & services actually entails, and why markets are so clever. Imagine any bureaucracy deciding how much soy to grow, or power to produce, or routes to fly? Common sense tells you that's cra-cra.

Which is why Dem Socialism pretends to be something else, and only limits its influence to SOME markets with SOME regulation (as we really do now). But Rosies admit their real aim is true Socialism, where, presumably, markets would be heavily regulated (thus, unworkable).

But ask the average Twitter user espousing Socialism and they think "Medicare for All." That isn't socialism. That's a "socialized service" controlled by the govt for a specific social goal, but still uses free-market actors (doctors, vendors, etc).

We need to #newlabels.

When conservatives bitch about "government controlling medicine," they are reactionary about it, but not completely wrong. When affordable Obamacare plans essentially put me in an HMO, I am forced to use only their doctors. I don't mind most of the time. Other times I'm enraged

But Republicans have declared war on any solution but practically unregulated predatory capitalism in every category of life, which has led to a complete breakdown of rational governing. But that doesn't mean the solution is some vague, catch-all nonsense like "socialism."

But liberals just can't get their shit together and message without pushing reactionary buttons. "Medicare for All" SOUNDS likes socialism. Bernie was TOLD this once. "National health care" was all it should have ever been called. Because that's all it ever was.

"Medicare for All" *sounds* like something that is being given to us, rather than something we are entitled to. Republicans have the @FrankLuntz types to shape their labels and avoid mistakes like that. He does it to serve evil people and motives, but he does it well.

@FrankLuntz Time and time again I have asked so-called socialists how they make the trains run on time. The answer is always some variation of "we'll work it out collectively & transparently."

How does that work? Like human microphones at an Occupy Assembly? They have no answer. #crickets

ATTENTION CITIZENS: We need more cat food manufacturing. We're having a meeting at 6 pm to elect a board of supervisors who will elect a committee to appoint a commission to establish amounts, quality and production schedules.

#TotalFuckingPoppycock

This is why many of us bristle when people throw the S word around. It always requires qualification. And even if someone made S work, it's associated w/ so much failure you'd want to change the label anyway.

If we defined terms better, we might get back to governing someday.

If you have ever been party of any group or crowd project trying to get anything done, you can quickly understand why the communal approach to governing is mostly idealistic horseshit. Is the Israeli Government based on the Kibbutz model? No, and for good reasons.